Ashes T1: Oz players scores on the Alvometer

Ashes T1: Oz players scores on the Alvometer

Post by alve » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:15:32


Krap - 8 - Krap scores runs. Krap gets high score.

Hughes - 2 - Looks dreadful. I don't recall his limitations being so
bleedin obvious in The Repugnant so maybe it's just something that's
incubated in Pomgolia. Atm there doesn't look to be a solution and there's
a good to very good chance that he'll be dropped before the series is over.
Or there would be if the squad had a spare batsman. It must be galling for
Rogers & Klinger (Ok, he's a #3 buttt), players of perfectly good
techniques *and* as good a season as Hughes' watching Hughes atm.

Punter - 9 - Again made a definitive statement with the bat at the start of
a series. Chasing 440 on an unknown pitch in Oz's first innings of the
series and coming in cheaply is serious pressure. He never gave England a
sniff. No serious, or even contentious errors in the captaincy arena.
Bowling North at the death wasn't something I would've done but his
reasoning was rational.

Huss - 3 - Another Test failure and... well...what? Repeat: There is no
reserve batsman in the squad. Exactly wtf are the selectors going to do if
Hughes and/or Huss fail again? It's madness.

Clarke - 7 - Boring little innings played under no pressure. Next.

North - 7 - Boring big innings under no pressure. Did the job but fails to
impress me due to a shortage of shots and a penchant to over-balance to the
off in his desire to work everything to leg. Could be picked off by a
quality quick taking the ball away. Off-spin looks over-rated. And boring.
He's even got boring hair.  

Haddin - 7 - I just can't score a keeper highly who's as brad as Bad. He
batted superbly and selflessly (unlike Marcus) but 22 byes in that match
weren't justified.

Johnson - 4 - High expectations, low returns. Delivered more lines than a
phone exchange and totally failed to swing the ball. Bowled rubbish on D5
when he was needed. (Arm looks even lower than usual)

Hauritz - 5 - Seeing through the smokescreen of support that was being
pumped out from the usual suspects revealed that Horrie performed exactly
as expected. Dud. He's no good. Although to be fair, he was probably more
than a tad confused when he saw his deliveries spinning & jumping. He has
absolutely no experience in that situation. Should be dropped for T2. Don't
care for who. SK Warne ideally.

Hilf - 8 - Easily the pick of the bowlers. Aside: One of the comms, and I
have a *** feeling that it was GRJ Matthews, pointed out the striking
similarity between Hilly's run-up and action and Graham Mckenzie's. Am
kicking meself for not picking that *and* having GRJ Matthews doing so. Was
the only quick on display who consistently swung the ball. And the bastard
is continuing his bad RSA tactic of only bowling his off-cutter once every
four overs. Once an over minimum please Benny.

Siddle - 6 - The Pocket Merv. Can be relied upon for a bit of GBH on the
batsmen and could do well on a seaming deck with that high arm action. He'd
be a much more successfull bowler if he could find another few kph. He
should also insist on a 3rd man.

So to Lords.
Enjoy yourself Mikey.

alvey
in Briz, just off to check on which Aussie batsmen are playing county.      

 
 
 

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Post by John Hal » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:12:26


<snip>

Quote:
>Johnson - 4 - High expectations, low returns. Delivered more lines than a
>phone exchange and totally failed to swing the ball. Bowled rubbish on D5
>when he was needed. (Arm looks even lower than usual)

This was about the only bit of encouragement for England to come out of
the Test (apart from not losing it, of course).
--
John Hall        "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
                  pays off now."  Anon

 
 
 

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Post by vipe » Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:27:23


Quote:
> Krap - 8 - Krap scores runs. Krap gets high score.

> Hughes - 2 - Looks dreadful. I don't recall his limitations being so
> bleedin obvious in The Repugnant so maybe it's just something that's
> incubated in Pomgolia. Atm there doesn't look to be a solution and there's
> a good to very good chance that he'll be dropped before the series is
> over.
> Or there would be if the squad had a spare batsman. It must be galling for
> Rogers & Klinger (Ok, he's a #3 buttt), players of perfectly good
> techniques *and* as good a season as Hughes' watching Hughes atm.

Yeah Hughes, what a failure....'no solution.....good chance he'll be
dropped'
...............ROFL

Rogers and Klinger......LOL

Got a Brad Hodge doll as well ?

Quote:
> Punter - 9 - Again made a definitive statement with the bat at the start
> of
> a series. Chasing 440 on an unknown pitch in Oz's first innings of the
> series and coming in cheaply is serious pressure. He never gave England a
> sniff. No serious, or even contentious errors in the captaincy arena.
> Bowling North at the death wasn't something I would've done but his
> reasoning was rational.

> Huss - 3 - Another Test failure and... well...what? Repeat: There is no
> reserve batsman in the squad. Exactly wtf are the selectors going to do if
> Hughes and/or Huss fail again? It's madness.

Hughes and Hussey in the same category ? ROFLMAO........yaeh right, one has
scored a single half century in something like 18 innings and the other is
four***
years younger, immensely successful and has a career in front of him

Viper

Quote:
> Clarke - 7 - Boring little innings played under no pressure. Next.

> North - 7 - Boring big innings under no pressure. Did the job but fails to
> impress me due to a shortage of shots and a penchant to over-balance to
> the
> off in his desire to work everything to leg. Could be picked off by a
> quality quick taking the ball away. Off-spin looks over-rated. And boring.
> He's even got boring hair.

> Haddin - 7 - I just can't score a keeper highly who's as brad as Bad. He
> batted superbly and selflessly (unlike Marcus) but 22 byes in that match
> weren't justified.

> Johnson - 4 - High expectations, low returns. Delivered more lines than a
> phone exchange and totally failed to swing the ball. Bowled rubbish on D5
> when he was needed. (Arm looks even lower than usual)

> Hauritz - 5 - Seeing through the smokescreen of support that was being
> pumped out from the usual suspects revealed that Horrie performed exactly
> as expected. Dud. He's no good. Although to be fair, he was probably more
> than a tad confused when he saw his deliveries spinning & jumping. He has
> absolutely no experience in that situation. Should be dropped for T2.
> Don't
> care for who. SK Warne ideally.

> Hilf - 8 - Easily the pick of the bowlers. Aside: One of the comms, and I
> have a *** feeling that it was GRJ Matthews, pointed out the striking
> similarity between Hilly's run-up and action and Graham Mckenzie's. Am
> kicking meself for not picking that *and* having GRJ Matthews doing so.
> Was
> the only quick on display who consistently swung the ball. And the bastard
> is continuing his bad RSA tactic of only bowling his off-cutter once every
> four overs. Once an over minimum please Benny.

> Siddle - 6 - The Pocket Merv. Can be relied upon for a bit of GBH on the
> batsmen and could do well on a seaming deck with that high arm action.
> He'd
> be a much more successfull bowler if he could find another few kph. He
> should also insist on a 3rd man.

> So to Lords.
> Enjoy yourself Mikey.

> alvey
> in Briz, just off to check on which Aussie batsmen are playing county.


 
 
 

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Post by Mang » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:03:38


Quote:
> Krap - 8 - Krap scores runs. Krap gets high score.

> Hughes - 2 - Looks dreadful. I don't recall his limitations being so
> bleedin obvious in The Repugnant so maybe it's just something that's
> incubated in Pomgolia. Atm there doesn't look to be a solution and there's
> a good to very good chance that he'll be dropped before the series is
> over.
> Or there would be if the squad had a spare batsman. It must be galling for
> Rogers & Klinger (Ok, he's a #3 buttt), players of perfectly good
> techniques *and* as good a season as Hughes' watching Hughes atm.

> Huss - 3 - Another Test failure and... well...what? Repeat: There is no
> reserve batsman in the squad. Exactly wtf are the selectors going to do if
> Hughes and/or Huss fail again? It's madness.

I would probably swap these around based on the performance in this test.
Huss looked like he couldn't get it off the square, and although Hughes is a
bit unconventional in technique he at least middled a couple.

Quote:

> Haddin - 7 - I just can't score a keeper highly who's as brad as Bad. He
> batted superbly and selflessly (unlike Marcus) but 22 byes in that match
> weren't justified.

I always knew that our next keeper wouldn't be as good with the bat as
Gilly, but I always thought he would be a better keeper.

Quote:

> Hauritz - 5 - Seeing through the smokescreen of support that was being
> pumped out from the usual suspects revealed that Horrie performed exactly
> as expected. Dud. He's no good. Although to be fair, he was probably more
> than a tad confused when he saw his deliveries spinning & jumping. He has
> absolutely no experience in that situation. Should be dropped for T2.
> Don't
> care for who. SK Warne ideally.

It shows how poorly England played at times when there were periods where
Hauritz looked like a good spinner.  I'm sure it won't happen again any time
soon.

Quote:
> Hilf - 8 - Easily the pick of the bowlers. Aside: One of the comms, and I
> have a *** feeling that it was GRJ Matthews, pointed out the striking
> similarity between Hilly's run-up and action and Graham Mckenzie's. Am
> kicking meself for not picking that *and* having GRJ Matthews doing so.
> Was
> the only quick on display who consistently swung the ball. And the bastard
> is continuing his bad RSA tactic of only bowling his off-cutter once every
> four overs. Once an over minimum please Benny.

He certainly surprised me and bowled very well.  Maybe ENglish conditions
suit him.
 
 
 

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Post by Calvi » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:21:04

Quote:

> Punter - 9 - Again made a definitive statement with the bat at the start  
> of
> a series. Chasing 440 on an unknown pitch in Oz's first innings of the
> series and coming in cheaply is serious pressure. He never gave England a
> sniff. No serious, or even contentious errors in the captaincy arena.

What?

* Failure to open with Hilf on D2

* Has no clue how to set fields against slogging tail-enders

* Failure to bowl Hilf late on D5

* Let North bat far too slowly

* Doesn't appear to understand that it is possible to put a fieldsman at  
third man

On the plus side Strauss appears just as clueless.

--

cheers,
calvin

 
 
 

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Post by gophe » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:51:04

Quote:
> * Doesn't appear to understand that it is possible to put a fieldsman at ?
> third man

Name a current captain that does.
 
 
 

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Post by will_ » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:03:14


Quote:



>> Krap - 8 - Krap scores runs. Krap gets high score.

>> Hughes - 2 - Looks dreadful. I don't recall his limitations being so
>> bleedin obvious in The Repugnant so maybe it's just something that's
>> incubated in Pomgolia. Atm there doesn't look to be a solution and
>> there's
>> a good to very good chance that he'll be dropped before the series is
>> over.
>> Or there would be if the squad had a spare batsman. It must be galling
>> for
>> Rogers & Klinger (Ok, he's a #3 buttt), players of perfectly good
>> techniques *and* as good a season as Hughes' watching Hughes atm.

>> Huss - 3 - Another Test failure and... well...what? Repeat: There is no
>> reserve batsman in the squad. Exactly wtf are the selectors going to do
>> if
>> Hughes and/or Huss fail again? It's madness.

> I would probably swap these around based on the performance in this test.
> Huss looked like he couldn't get it off the square, and although Hughes is
> a bit unconventional in technique he at least middled a couple.

Hughes ....NSW

Huss .....WA

That is all Al needs to know

- Show quoted text -

Quote:

>> Haddin - 7 - I just can't score a keeper highly who's as brad as Bad. He
>> batted superbly and selflessly (unlike Marcus) but 22 byes in that match
>> weren't justified.

> I always knew that our next keeper wouldn't be as good with the bat as
> Gilly, but I always thought he would be a better keeper.

>> Hauritz - 5 - Seeing through the smokescreen of support that was being
>> pumped out from the usual suspects revealed that Horrie performed exactly
>> as expected. Dud. He's no good. Although to be fair, he was probably more
>> than a tad confused when he saw his deliveries spinning & jumping. He has
>> absolutely no experience in that situation. Should be dropped for T2.
>> Don't
>> care for who. SK Warne ideally.

> It shows how poorly England played at times when there were periods where
> Hauritz looked like a good spinner.  I'm sure it won't happen again any
> time soon.

>> Hilf - 8 - Easily the pick of the bowlers. Aside: One of the comms, and I
>> have a *** feeling that it was GRJ Matthews, pointed out the striking
>> similarity between Hilly's run-up and action and Graham Mckenzie's. Am
>> kicking meself for not picking that *and* having GRJ Matthews doing so.
>> Was
>> the only quick on display who consistently swung the ball. And the
>> bastard
>> is continuing his bad RSA tactic of only bowling his off-cutter once
>> every
>> four overs. Once an over minimum please Benny.

> He certainly surprised me and bowled very well.  Maybe ENglish conditions
> suit him.

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Banne » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:35:59


<snip>

Quote:
> > Hilf - 8 - Easily the pick of the bowlers. Aside: One of the comms, and I
> > have a *** feeling that it was GRJ Matthews, pointed out the striking
> > similarity between Hilly's run-up and action and Graham Mckenzie's. Am
> > kicking meself for not picking that *and* having GRJ Matthews doing so.
> > Was
> > the only quick on display who consistently swung the ball. And the bastard
> > is continuing his bad RSA tactic of only bowling his off-cutter once every
> > four overs. Once an over minimum please Benny.

> He certainly surprised me and bowled very well. ?Maybe ENglish conditions
> suit him.

Definitely. He is a swing bowler who reminds me a little of Alderman.
I have to say I didn't rate his bowling at all against SA, where he
was good with the new ball and awful after that. But I thought he
might bowl well in England, being from Tasmania where conditions are
somewhat similar to England.
 
 
 

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Post by eusebiu » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:22:59

I agree with the basic points, but am not sure of Farmenhaus, never
have. A good action does not a successful bowler make, although yes he
was good in this game. Perhaps it is more Alderman than McKenzie. If
so, perhaps a good action makes a successful bowler *in England*.

Haddin, yes his keeping just plumbs further depths of mediocrity every
time I see him. He batted nicely though.

 
 
 

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Post by Ian Galbrait » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:32:18

Quote:

> Hughes - 2 - Looks dreadful. I don't recall his limitations being so
> bleedin obvious in The Repugnant so maybe it's just something that's
> incubated in Pomgolia. Atm there doesn't look to be a solution and there's
> a good to very good chance that he'll be dropped before the series is over.
> Or there would be if the squad had a spare batsman. It must be galling for
> Rogers & Klinger (Ok, he's a #3 buttt), players of perfectly good
> techniques *and* as good a season as Hughes' watching Hughes atm.
> Huss - 3 - Another Test failure and... well...what? Repeat: There is no
> reserve batsman in the squad. Exactly wtf are the selectors going to do if
> Hughes and/or Huss fail again? It's madness.

These scores are unjustifiable. Hussey should be 1 and Hughes perhaps 4
or 3.

--
"Guitar teachers probably don't teach you how to slap broken strings
against your pickups in order to achieve the sound of Earth's final
thunderstorm, or a pterodactyl on his way to a fight... but that's why we
have Neil Young and Old Black." - Greg Mcgarvey

 
 
 

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Post by Don speaks the trut » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:54:52


Quote:
> Hughes - 2 - Looks dreadful. I don't recall his limitations being so
> bleedin obvious in The Repugnant so maybe it's just something that's
> incubated in Pomgolia. Atm there doesn't look to be a solution and there's
> a good to very good chance that he'll be dropped before the series is over.
> Or there would be if the squad had a spare batsman. It must be galling for
> Rogers & Klinger (Ok, he's a #3 buttt), players of perfectly good
> techniques *and* as good a season as Hughes' watching Hughes atm.

Hughes did well in S.Africa....probabs you have very low tolerance???

Quote:
> Punter - 9 - Again made a definitive statement with the bat at the start of
> a series. Chasing 440 on an unknown pitch in Oz's first innings of the
> series and coming in cheaply is serious pressure. He never gave England a
> sniff. No serious, or even contentious errors in the captaincy arena.
> Bowling North at the death wasn't something I would've done but his
> reasoning was rational.

Usual series century to be followed by many failures and temper
tantrums i am sure.

Quote:
> North - 7 - Boring big innings under no pressure. Did the job but fails to
> impress me due to a shortage of shots and a penchant to over-balance to the
> off in his desire to work everything to leg. Could be picked off by a
> quality quick taking the ball away. Off-spin looks over-rated. And boring.
> He's even got boring hair. ?

Since when did Alvey become Algay?

Quote:
> Hauritz - 5 - Seeing through the smokescreen of support that was being
> pumped out from the usual suspects revealed that Horrie performed exactly
> as expected. Dud. He's no good. Although to be fair, he was probably more
> than a tad confused when he saw his deliveries spinning & jumping. He has
> absolutely no experience in that situation. Should be dropped for T2. Don't
> care for who. SK Warne ideally.

Easily the best spinner Aus has atm. No point dissing him.

Quote:
> Hilf - 8 - Easily the pick of the bowlers. Aside: One of the comms, and I
> have a *** feeling that it was GRJ Matthews, pointed out the striking
> similarity between Hilly's run-up and action and Graham Mckenzie's. Am
> kicking meself for not picking that *and* having GRJ Matthews doing so. Was
> the only quick on display who consistently swung the ball. And the bastard
> is continuing his bad RSA tactic of only bowling his off-cutter once every
> four overs. Once an over minimum please Benny.

Hez German, so Celto Aus will only benefit from someone from a good
sporting country.

Don

 
 
 

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Post by alve » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:24:10

Quote:


>> Huss - 3 - Another Test failure and... well...what? Repeat: There is no
>> reserve batsman in the squad. Exactly wtf are the selectors going to do if
>> Hughes and/or Huss fail again? It's madness.

> I would probably swap these around based on the performance in this test.
> Huss looked like he couldn't get it off the square, and although Hughes is a
> bit unconventional in technique he at least middled a couple.

I didn't actually see Huss bat, must've been having a slash, but Hussey at
least he has a good technique to fall back on to help scratch out a score,
a la the late-career Boon & AB, plus his vast experience at scoring big
runs. Hughes doesn't have either. Hughes's current... well, "technique"
isn't even the word for it, his batting style is even worse than The Krap.
He makes Swampy look like Gregory Stephen. If the fielding side plug the V
either side of cover point to him *and* he survives, then I don't know
where he's going to score any serious runs. Am also curious to see him
against spinners. As a cut-dependant batsman the odds are that he'll
struggle to score.  

Quote:

>> Hauritz - 5 - Seeing through the smokescreen of support that was being
>> pumped out from the usual suspects revealed that Horrie performed exactly
>> as expected. Dud. He's no good. Although to be fair, he was probably more
>> than a tad confused when he saw his deliveries spinning & jumping. He has
>> absolutely no experience in that situation. Should be dropped for T2.
>> Don't
>> care for who. SK Warne ideally.

> It shows how poorly England played at times when there were periods where
> Hauritz looked like a good spinner.  I'm sure it won't happen again any time
> soon.

Agreed.

Quote:

>> Hilf - 8 - Easily the pick of the bowlers. Aside: One of the comms, and I
>> have a *** feeling that it was GRJ Matthews, pointed out the striking
>> similarity between Hilly's run-up and action and Graham Mckenzie's. Am
>> kicking meself for not picking that *and* having GRJ Matthews doing so.
>> Was
>> the only quick on display who consistently swung the ball. And the bastard
>> is continuing his bad RSA tactic of only bowling his off-cutter once every
>> four overs. Once an over minimum please Benny.

> He certainly surprised me and bowled very well.  Maybe ENglish conditions
> suit him.

He could improve his returns with one simple technical adjustment.
APPEAL LIKE AN AUSTRALIAN HILLY.
I'm certain that he misses some lbws because there's not enough McWarne in
his shouts.

alvey

 
 
 

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Post by alve » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:27:38

Quote:

>> I would probably swap these around based on the performance in this test.
>> Huss looked like he couldn't get it off the square, and although Hughes is
>> a bit unconventional in technique he at least middled a couple.

> Hughes ....NSW

> Huss .....WA

> That is all Al needs to know

So could you explain why I'm proposing a current Dic and an ex-Dic for the
XI?

Oty Willy.

alvey

 
 
 

Ashes T1: Oz players scores on the Alvometer

Post by alve » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:32:49

Quote:


> I agree with the basic points, but am not sure of Farmenhaus, never
> have. A good action does not a successful bowler make, although yes he
> was good in this game. Perhaps it is more Alderman than McKenzie.

Ooooo no it's not.
Apart from having entirely different actions, Clemmie could bowl an
in-ducker and an off-cutter. The former is beyond Hilfenisintheouthaus and
he struggles with the latter.

Quote:
> If so, perhaps a good action makes a successful bowler *in England*.

Same as batting... It improves your chances. Anywhere.

Quote:

> Haddin, yes his keeping just plumbs further depths of mediocrity every
> time I see him. He batted nicely though.

Yes and yes.

as

 
 
 

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Post by alve » Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:34:42

Quote:


>> Punter - 9 - Again made a definitive statement with the bat at the start  
>> of
>> a series. Chasing 440 on an unknown pitch in Oz's first innings of the
>> series and coming in cheaply is serious pressure. He never gave England a
>> sniff. No serious, or even contentious errors in the captaincy arena.

> What?

> * Failure to open with Hilf on D2

> * Has no clue how to set fields against slogging tail-enders

> * Failure to bowl Hilf late on D5

> * Let North bat far too slowly

> * Doesn't appear to understand that it is possible to put a fieldsman at  
> third man

Let me put this in a way that you'll understand. Phhrrrruuutttttt.

alvey