Aus best ever team?

Aus best ever team?

Post by i.. » Thu, 02 Sep 1993 19:33:05


Probably the most famous post war team of all is the 1948 Australian
tourists of England.  Bradman was still going strong, and Neil Harvey
played in the fourth and fifth tests, making a century in the first,
his debut against England.  

Looking up the teams, I was surprised to find a couple of names
that I didn't recognise, and also surprised that the teams changed
significantly between the 4th/5th tests.  I picked the team for
the 5th test - Bradman's last when he got a duck - because Don Tallon
took over from Saggers, a keeper I have never heard of, and I suspect
Tallon was better.

I give the salient career test statistics (probably with typos)

Australia vs England, 5th Test, 1948









D  Tallon (+)       58 dismissals in 21 tests


This is a remarkable batting line up, with 5 averages over 45, or 6 if you
count Bradman's twice.  Then in support you have Keith Miller with a
very high average for an all-rounder, and even 21 is a more than useful
average for a number 8, Lindwall.

Barnes is relatively little known, and played fairly few tests.  His average
may reflect the small number of tests he played.  But the War took him
from the ages of 23 to 29, when he might have been most prolific.
Barnes once got himself out for 234, because Bradman had made the same
score in the same innings so Barnes thought it would be more memorable that way.

Morris was possibly the best left handed opener ever, and Harvey another all
time great.  Hassett is probably not regarded as a great, but his average
belies that, and he was another who might have peaked during the war.

The fast attack of Lindwall, Miller, and Johnston must be a great
attack in any era.  Johnston is often forgotten (indeed I had forgotten
about him) but his figures tell a tale.  (I have a vague memory he
might have been a left arm fast, but I'm not sure).  The bowling
support seems weak, I don't even know if Loxley was considered an
all-rounder, and I don't know how he or Ring bowled.  Certainly there
is no famous spinner in the side.  But then, I believe in those days
the new ball came around when the score reached 200, often after only
about 60 overs, so pure fast attack was much more effective than you
might think.

A final thought.  Although the war blighted several careers here, it's
quite likely this team would never have played together without it: probably
Bradman at least would have retired.

--
Ian Gent

 
 
 

Aus best ever team?

Post by Ross Mcar » Thu, 02 Sep 1993 21:15:04

Quote:

>support seems weak, I don't even know if Loxley was considered an
>all-rounder, and I don't know how he or Ring bowled.  Certainly there
>is no famous spinner in the side.  But then, I believe in those days
>the new ball came around when the score reached 200, often after only
>about 60 overs, so pure fast attack was much more effective than you
>might think.

Doug Ring was a tall leggie from Victoria who played perhaps 15 or 20 tests
(sorry, dont have his stats). He may not be that 'famous' but he was certainly
a fine player for Victoria over many seasons and represented Richmond in
the district competition. Like many players of that era, his career was
disrupted by the war. He was also a fairly handy bat who thrived on
clonking sixes.  In Victoria - certainly in district cricket circles -
stories about Ring legendary.

Ross.

 
 
 

Aus best ever team?

Post by WODG » Sat, 04 Sep 1993 14:07:52

Quote:

>Doug Ring was a tall leggie from Victoria who played perhaps 15 or 20 tests
>stories about Ring legendary.

Ring is famous as half the last wicket partnership that scored about 40 runs
to defeat the Windies at the MCG in 1951/52. I think the other half was Bill
Johnston. Story has it that asked afterwards as to whether he was nervous the
answer was ` Not at all. I knew we had no chance of getting the runs.'