lara kicks srt's ass again

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by Michael Slate » Sun, 10 Oct 1999 04:00:00


More proof that lara kicks srt's ass. srt has never hit a 45 ball hundred or
come near doing anything like that.
add this to the 375, 277, 213, 153*, 501* etc and there really is no
argument. Lara is the world's best batsman and srt just scores on flat
tracks against shit bowlers. end of story
 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by Kenny Gre » Sun, 10 Oct 1999 04:00:00

On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 23:20:24 +1000, "Michael Slater"

Quote:

>More proof that lara kicks srt's ass. srt has never hit a 45 ball hundred or
>come near doing anything like that.
>add this to the 375, 277, 213, 153*, 501* etc and there really is no
>argument. Lara is the world's best batsman and srt just scores on flat
>tracks against shit bowlers. end of story

Yeah...like Bangladesh`s world class attack...

 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by maveric » Sun, 10 Oct 1999 04:00:00


opine, instead of batting for Australia,

Quote:
> More proof that lara kicks srt's ass. srt has never hit a 45 ball
> hundred or
> come near doing anything like that.
> add this to the 375, 277, 213, 153*, 501* etc and there really is
> no
> argument. Lara is the world's best batsman and srt just scores on
> flat
> tracks against shit bowlers. end of story

Ah yes, the perils of facing the Bangladeshi attack on a B'desh pitch
would quake Srt in his boots. Mind you, against the same attack and the
same pitch Lara did score all of 2 runs valiantly before heading back
in the first game. Add to this the fact that this was Lara's first ODI
ton in almost 18 months and 35 + games(his last being against England
in the summer of '98), a period in which a certain SRT has scored no
less than 8 ODI tons, and one can start believing that Lara indeed
kicks Srt's ass. And if it is tests you are talking, here are their
respective records in the last 10 tests played :

Srt

10  18  2  1071  66.93  3 (50's)  5 (100's)

Lara

10  18  1   945  55.58  5 (50's)  3  (100's)

Surely more proof, that Lara does indeed kick Srt's ass. Ah, stupid of
me to think otherwise.

Cheers,
An enlightened M.

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lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by Srikant Bala » Sun, 10 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 23:20:24 +1000, "Michael Slater"

> >More proof that lara kicks srt's ass. srt has never hit a 45 ball hundred or
> >come near doing anything like that.
> >add this to the 375, 277, 213, 153*, 501* etc and there really is no
> >argument. Lara is the world's best batsman and srt just scores on flat
> >tracks against shit bowlers. end of story

> Yeah...like Bangladesh`s world class attack...

yeah add the great english and aussie attack to the list...even ravi shastri
thulped shane warne...so what' the big deal!!!!
 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by Mike Pric » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I would not class runs scored against Bangladesh as anything amazingly
special.
I do however think there is very little between Lara and Tendulkar in
batting prowess.
I read some post on this group where it was claimed that Tendulkar was

"The second best batsman of all time after Bradman".
Tendulkar is a very very good batsman but I think it is way too
premature to declare him the second best batsman of all time,
especially when there is a player in Lara who is just as good going
around at the moment.

Mike

On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 23:20:24 +1000, "Michael Slater"

Quote:

>More proof that lara kicks srt's ass. srt has never hit a 45 ball
hundred or
>come near doing anything like that.
>add this to the 375, 277, 213, 153*, 501* etc and there really is no
>argument. Lara is the world's best batsman and srt just scores on
flat
>tracks against shit bowlers. end of story

 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by Wedge Antille » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00

yep, Lara has more ability than Tendollarcar, who is just a flat-track
bully. Stick him on a swinging, spinning, seaming pitch (like the ones in
England) and he'll fail miserably against any decent bowling attack.

later,
Wedge

--
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Quote:

>More proof that lara kicks srt's ass. srt has never hit a 45 ball hundred
or
>come near doing anything like that.
>add this to the 375, 277, 213, 153*, 501* etc and there really is no
>argument. Lara is the world's best batsman and srt just scores on flat
>tracks against shit bowlers. end of story

 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by Bill O'Bria » Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> Ah yes, the perils of facing the Bangladeshi attack on a B'desh
> pitch
> would quake Srt in his boots. Mind you, against the same attack
> and the
> same pitch Lara did score all of 2 runs valiantly before heading
> back
> in the first game. Add to this the fact that this was Lara's first
> ODI
> ton in almost 18 months and 35 + games(his last being against
> England
> in the summer of '98), a period in which a certain SRT has scored
> no
> less than 8 ODI tons, and one can start believing that Lara indeed

Excuse me, SRT has made most of the tons as a opening batsman in ODIs.
Only one IIRC was a middle order bat against Kenya.
SRT in fact sucked as a middle order bat. However he is a tiger when
fielders aren't placed outside 30 yards circle in the Asian conditions.
In fact Klusener's avg of 45 at a s.r 95+ is more creditable than
SRT's 40ish avg (thanks to dead wkts) and 83 s.r.
Let SRT first learn to play ouside Asia and when field restrictions are
not on. Lara to his credit has played very well in 1997 in Aus.
Can you ever imagine SRT helping a chase of 250+ outside Asia ?
Lara to his credit made couple of 100s and a 90 in Perth coming back to
his form. SRT has 3 100s outside Asia. 2 against Zim one against Kenya.
Need I say more ?

Quote:
> kicks Srt's ass. And if it is tests you are talking, here are their
> respective records in the last 10 tests played :
> Srt
> 10  18  2  1071  66.93  3 (50's)  5 (100's)
> Lara
> 10  18  1   945  55.58  5 (50's)  3  (100's)
> Surely more proof, that Lara does indeed kick Srt's ass. Ah,
> stupid of
> me to think otherwise.

SRT has done marginally better than Lara in Tests thanks to Lara's lack
of discipline. But I can never imagine SRT standing up against McGrath
for that matter anyside which has ***s and make 153* in the fourth
innings and win the way Lara did in a runchase. That aside he has
couple of brilliant 200s against Aus ***s. In comp SRT made lot of
runs against Reifel and co. Lara however was pathetic against RSA and
Pak. Not to suggest that SRT looked any better against them.

Quote:
> Cheers,
> An enlightened M.

Spoke to soon.

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lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by G I A » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

shouldn't this post be titled o'connor kicks srt's ass, or nash kicks
india's ass again? :-)

add o'connor to the long list of pace bowlers that have made a mess of
srt's stumps with the in***. he has that technical flaw which he can't
seem to sort out..ie trying to play the in*** through mid wicket and
getting bowled.

seriously though, india are in an awful mess. the real test will be if
their much hyped batting lineup can make a big score in the second
innings. time for tendulkar to lead from the front. a good score from him
is long overdue.  

either way, i think it would be fair to say that those very optimistic
indians expecting their team to do well in australia are in for a shock.
really, if they are going to make even the nz seam attack seem fearsome, i
shudder to think what mcgrath and co will do to them.

---
 G (almost convinced now that srt is over rated)

 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by Samir Dhum » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00


: either way, i think it would be fair to say that those very optimistic
: indians expecting their team to do well in australia are in for a shock.
: really, if they are going to make even the nz seam attack seem fearsome, i
: shudder to think what mcgrath and co will do to them.

Oh come on. Arent we forgetting Aus tour to India too soon. I
shall insist on being optimistic.

: ---
:  G (almost convinced now that srt is over rated)

I think so too. Anybody who generates a discussion every time
he gets out at a low score has too much expected of him. SRT
is unquestionably overrated.

samir

 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by RoshanC » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>I think so too. Anybody who generates a discussion every time
>he gets out at a low score has too much expected of him. SRT
>is unquestionably overrated.

Definitely, when a certain Steve Waugh averages 14.00 resulting in a series
loss to a young Lankan side & a Brian Lara who hasn't scored a decent score
since his plundering of the Aussie attack, SRT is over-rated.

Cheers,
Roshan [How many question Steve or Brian for every low score they come up
with?]

 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by samarth harish sha » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> I think so too. Anybody who generates a discussion every time
> he gets out at a low score has too much expected of him. SRT
> is unquestionably overrated.

As I said before, there are more people wanting to drag SRT down than
there are those who want to elevate him to divine status.

What is "out of form" for Waugh or Lara is an inability to play X type of
bowling on Y type of wicket for SRT. Shane Warne can do badly because of a
bad shoulder. But, if SRT gets out clutching his back in pain, it's
because he can't play spin.

Waugh can have a bad series because of injury, SRT can't. It's not injury,
you see, it's poor temperament. Waugh can get out hitting out when batting
with the tail. If SRT does so (Edgbaston '96, Capetown '97), it's a
"needless, overambitious swipe at a good ball".

I remember Shayne O'Connor getting Steve Waugh clean bowled for 96 at
Hobart with an inswinging yorker. O'Connor got lucky, people said. Waugh
always gets a 100 at the Bellerive Oval. Yesterday, the same O'Connor got
SRT bowled with an inswinging ball. "SRT can't play in***s on his
stumps" was the comment someone made today!

-Samarth [ Waugh, RSC, Waugh! Kya baat hain! Isi ko kehte hain double
standards ].

 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by Ravi Krishn » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> What is "out of form" for Waugh or Lara is an inability to play X
> type of bowling on Y type of wicket for SRT.

Wait a minute. By writing the above u have acknowledged that SRT is no
better or no different from Lara or Waugh. If that is the case, then
your sarcasm has a point. The problem is that SRT fanatics compare him
with none other Bradman, bypassing greats like SMG,IVAR,Chappel, Border
etc, what to talk about plebeians like Lara/Waugh. You can't have it
both ways. If SRT is next only to Bradman then he should be that much
better than Lara or Waugh. Hence I don't see anything wrong in SRT
being subjected to tougher yardstick than Waugh or Lara.

RK-

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lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by Sanjeev Sayeerama » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

even bradman didnt score a century every time he went out..
Quote:


> > What is "out of form" for Waugh or Lara is an inability to play X
> > type of bowling on Y type of wicket for SRT.

> Wait a minute. By writing the above u have acknowledged that SRT is no
> better or no different from Lara or Waugh. If that is the case, then
> your sarcasm has a point. The problem is that SRT fanatics compare him
> with none other Bradman, bypassing greats like SMG,IVAR,Chappel, Border
> etc, what to talk about plebeians like Lara/Waugh. You can't have it
> both ways. If SRT is next only to Bradman then he should be that much
> better than Lara or Waugh. Hence I don't see anything wrong in SRT
> being subjected to tougher yardstick than Waugh or Lara.

> RK-

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lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by RoshanC » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>The problem is that SRT fanatics compare him
>with none other Bradman, bypassing greats like SMG,IVAR,Chappel, Border
>etc, what to talk about plebeians like Lara/Waugh

SRT has by-passed greats like SMG, IVAR, Chappel, Border ets & Lara/Waugh are
plebians.

SRT has a better average than all of the above mentioned
SRT has a better innings/100 than all of the above
SRT has 100's more or less against all type of attacks/grounds/conditions/pitch
(The same can't be said to the above)

SRT has a better II innings average also than most of the above

What SRT is always accused is that he cant win test series by himself, but
unless the bowlers take 20 wickets you cant blame SRT for that flaw. Of course
you'll point out Barbados, Harare, Madras, Cal

But, the bottomline is Steve Waugh is presented 30 opportunities from his
bowlers, he converts 10 of them (with good support from other batsmen like
Mark, Slater)& hence is a hero, Sachin is presented 10 opportunities & probably
has converted around 4-5 as match winning innings. Pray tell me, how is
Sachin's 169 vs RSA any less inferior than Steve's innings against the same
country or his 136 or his 179 or his brillaint 100's in Eng or 114 in Perth.

Conversly Steve has presented 19 opportunities for his bowlers to win matches
(i.e 100's). So has Sachin,  in half the number of matches (Sachin > 2 * Steve)
but our bowlers & other batsmen have shown inconsistency. Its just fate that
despite his wonderful 100's Sachin falls into a different category than Steve

Cheers,
Roshan

 
 
 

lara kicks srt's ass again

Post by samarth harish sha » Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Wait a minute. By writing the above u have acknowledged that SRT is no
> better or no different from Lara or Waugh. If that is the case, then

Yes. And that's what I believe! On his day, SRT is probably better than
Waugh and Lara. But, that's true of both Waugh and Lara, too! On their
days, they're better than everyone else!

At present, I should think SRT is a shade behind Waugh and Lara. But, 18
months back, he was probably a shade ahead of them!

Quote:
> your sarcasm has a point. The problem is that SRT fanatics compare him
> with none other Bradman, bypassing greats like SMG,IVAR,Chappel, Border
> etc, what to talk about plebeians like Lara/Waugh. You can't have it

I don't think SRT fanatics seriously *believe* he is better than Bradman
or that he is God. I mean, Craig McMillan fanatics believe he's God, too!
You don't have people deriding Macca every time *he* fails, do you?

Quote:
> both ways. If SRT is next only to Bradman then he should be that much
> better than Lara or Waugh. Hence I don't see anything wrong in SRT
> being subjected to tougher yardstick than Waugh or Lara.

Oh, I don't either. And I've said as much, in some previous thread, too.
It shows that SRT's irking his critics, which I simply love! And holding
him to higher standards might urge him into performing better, too. I
don't mind it at all!

I'm just making an observation that double standards exist!

-Samarth.