Assuming Robin Uthappa plays on Wednesday; would he be the first Coorg
ever to play for India?
Are there many Christians among Coorgs or is Robin just a 'fashionable'
name?
Sanjiv
Are there many Christians among Coorgs or is Robin just a 'fashionable'
name?
Sanjiv
> Are there many Christians among Coorgs or is Robin just a 'fashionable'
> name?
> Sanjiv
A. A. Khan
> > Are there many Christians among Coorgs or is Robin just a 'fashionable'
> > name?
> > Sanjiv
> Many of them are Christians --- I think it is a separate sect
> called Syrian Christians. One such prominent Coorg was
> Field Marshal K. M. Cariappa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coorg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_Marshal_Kodandera_Madappa_Cariappa
Cheers
Arun
> Sanjiv
> > > Are there many Christians among Coorgs or is Robin just a 'fashionable'
> > > name?
> > > Sanjiv
> > Many of them are Christians --- I think it is a separate sect
> > called Syrian Christians. One such prominent Coorg was
> > Field Marshal K. M. Cariappa.
> No, they are not. A vast majority of them, including F.M. Cariappa was
> a Kodava. They are Hindus but do not follow traditional Brahmin
> priests. Syrian Christians are largely based in Kerala.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coorg
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_Marshal_Kodandera_Madappa_Cariappa
Studies are now under way to determine which historical tribe may
have shown similar tendencies.
- SLS
> Cheers
> Arun
Having said that they speak a dravidian tongue with north Indian
features. Under Hyder Ali there was fashion to claim to a arabian
origin, under Vijayanagar, northern origins..
Literally, one dy*** chengalvas ruled the small district homogenizing
it into a separate people from their neighbours, the karnatas and tulus
for a long long time thus creating an identity. (ethnically many of
residents may be related Tulus speaking different language).
They are fond of Guns, 4000 gun licenses and 18000 legal guns were in
the district in 1989 (literally twice as many Guns as were available to
Delhi police than, largest Indian police force).
In 1988, the demand arose for a separate statehood which was deemed
very fishy from area which gives more than larger per capita share of
soldiers. The worying fact was that region was heavily armed but no
Gurkhaland style activity happenned.
The lightly armed customs officers do not have problems controlling
this region because people are very law abiding.
Now this might be controversial, a new party lauched a statehood
movement which had relatively larger than population percentage
christian leadership and allegedly funded by
foreign missionary funds. (not the foreign hand stuff, the funds may
have been sent for other purposes and were diverted to fund this
party). Again, the movement remained political without turning ***
and original leadership was replaced.
Robin is a common enough Hindu name, found in Bengal, UP, West Indies
and now Coorg. :-)
Two Indian captains may claim Coorgi or Kodagu as their mother tongues,
Ravi Jaidrath Shastri and Dilip Balwant Vengsarkar's mothers speak the
language.
Both were not born in the region. Shastri was close by though.
regards
Pranshu B Saxena
> Having said that they speak a dravidian tongue with north Indian
> features. Under Hyder Ali there was fashion to claim to a arabian
> origin, under Vijayanagar, northern origins..
> Literally, one dy*** chengalvas ruled the small district homogenizing
> it into a separate people from their neighbours, the karnatas and tulus
> for a long long time thus creating an identity. (ethnically many of
> residents may be related Tulus speaking different language).
> They are fond of Guns, 4000 gun licenses and 18000 legal guns were in
> the district in 1989 (literally twice as many Guns as were available to
> Delhi police than, largest Indian police force).
> In 1988, the demand arose for a separate statehood which was deemed
> very fishy from area which gives more than larger per capita share of
> soldiers. The worying fact was that region was heavily armed but no
> Gurkhaland style activity happenned.
> The lightly armed customs officers do not have problems controlling
> this region because people are very law abiding.
> Now this might be controversial, a new party lauched a statehood
> movement which had relatively larger than population percentage
> christian leadership and allegedly funded by
> foreign missionary funds. (not the foreign hand stuff, the funds may
> have been sent for other purposes and were diverted to fund this
> party). Again, the movement remained political without turning ***
> and original leadership was replaced.
> Robin is a common enough Hindu name, found in Bengal, UP, West Indies
> and now Coorg. :-)
> Two Indian captains may claim Coorgi or Kodagu as their mother tongues,
> Ravi Jaidrath Shastri and Dilip Balwant Vengsarkar's mothers speak the
> language.
> Both were not born in the region. Shastri was close by though.
> regards
> Pranshu B Saxena
I didn't know DBV's mother was from a Konkani area, leave alone from
Kodagu. This is rather interesting.
Cheers
Arun
> > Two Indian captains may claim Coorgi or Kodagu as their mother tongues,
> > Ravi Jaidrath Shastri and Dilip Balwant Vengsarkar's mothers speak the
> > language.
> > Both were not born in the region. Shastri was close by though.
> > regards
> > Pranshu B Saxena
> Really? I always felt that Ravi Shastri's mother was a Kannadiga from
> Mangalore. Isn't her sister, the former (Maharashtra) state minister
> Lalita Rao? RJS's mother may know Tulu since most people from South
> Kanara do. I didn't know he was connected to Kodagu in any way. If he
> was, Kannada magazines would've mentioned it. :-)
> I didn't know DBV's mother was from a Konkani area, leave alone from
> Kodagu. This is rather interesting.
> Cheers
> Arun
honestly, so many topics keep coming up again with so regularity...
regards
Pranshu B Saxena
An rscer forwarded this via email and aksed me to comment.
So here goes:
<coorg history snipped>
> Two Indian captains may claim Coorgi or Kodagu as their mother tongues,
> Ravi Jaidrath Shastri and Dilip Balwant Vengsarkar's mothers speak the
> language.
> Both were not born in the region. Shastri was close by though.
> regards
> Pranshu B Saxena
> An rscer forwarded this via email and aksed me to comment.
> So here goes:
> <coorg history snipped>
> > Robin is a common enough Hindu name, found in Bengal, UP, West Indies
> > and now Coorg. :-)
> In Coorg, it is quite common to have nicknames like Robin, Rahul, Arun,
> Ben,
> Ajay etc. besides their real names, and it is also common to address them
> such.
> > Two Indian captains may claim Coorgi or Kodagu as their mother tongues,
> > Ravi Jaidrath Shastri and Dilip Balwant Vengsarkar's mothers speak the
> > language.
> > Both were not born in the region. Shastri was close by though.
> To the best of my knowledge, neither Shastri or Vengsarkar have any Coorg
> connections.
-Samarth.
> > regards
> > Pranshu B Saxena
> > > Two Indian captains may claim Coorgi or Kodagu as their mother tongues,
> > > Ravi Jaidrath Shastri and Dilip Balwant Vengsarkar's mothers speak the
> > > language.
> > > Both were not born in the region. Shastri was close by though.
> > To the best of my knowledge, neither Shastri or Vengsarkar have any Coorg
> > connections.
> FWIW, the first line of Shastri's Wikipedia page says his family hailed
> from Mangalore. It was kind of accepted in my family when I was growing
> up that Shastri's native tongue was Tulu.
dp
> > > > Two Indian captains may claim Coorgi or Kodagu as their mother tongues,
> > > > Ravi Jaidrath Shastri and Dilip Balwant Vengsarkar's mothers speak the
> > > > language.
> > > > Both were not born in the region. Shastri was close by though.
> > > To the best of my knowledge, neither Shastri or Vengsarkar have any Coorg
> > > connections.
> > FWIW, the first line of Shastri's Wikipedia page says his family hailed
> > from Mangalore. It was kind of accepted in my family when I was growing
> > up that Shastri's native tongue was Tulu.
> Shastri does have origins in Mangalore, not sure about Vengsarkar. But
> Mangalore is not part of Coorg, nor do Coorgi's speak Tulu. They speak
> Kodava language.
-Samarth.
> dp
> > > > > Two Indian captains may claim Coorgi or Kodagu as their mother tongues,
> > > > > Ravi Jaidrath Shastri and Dilip Balwant Vengsarkar's mothers speak the
> > > > > language.
> > > > > Both were not born in the region. Shastri was close by though.
> > > > To the best of my knowledge, neither Shastri or Vengsarkar have any Coorg
> > > > connections.
> > > FWIW, the first line of Shastri's Wikipedia page says his family hailed
> > > from Mangalore. It was kind of accepted in my family when I was growing
> > > up that Shastri's native tongue was Tulu.
> > Shastri does have origins in Mangalore, not sure about Vengsarkar. But
> > Mangalore is not part of Coorg, nor do Coorgi's speak Tulu. They speak
> > Kodava language.
> I didn't mention anything about Coorg.
dp
The contribution of Saraswats to Indian cricket is simply amazing;
given how small their community really is.
Sanjiv
2. Robin Uthappa drops another catch this time of Hayden
3. no takers for Gautam Gambhir and Robin Uthappa
4. For Robin Uthappa, it's been about making right choices
6. Hail GENIUS Greg Chappell for his LOVE for Robin Uthappa n Dinesh Karthick
8. Interview with Robin Uthappa
9. Aaaargh! Robin Freaking Uthappa!
11. Uthappa brought in for Gambhir
13. Fine allround performance from Uthappa