Indians warned again by match umpires in big win over NSW

Indians warned again by match umpires in big win over NSW

Post by samarth harish sha » Wed, 08 Dec 1999 04:00:00


AFP article. Taken from
http://SportToday.org/

Ganguly claims that all the Indians did was ask "Was it close, going down
legside?"

Pretty similar, I should think, to asking, "How was I out? LBW? How?", I
should think...

-Samarth.

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                SYDNEY, Dec 5 (AFP) - India were again reported for
dissent on their way to a
                convincing 93-run victory over New South Wales on the
final day of their four-day
                cricket tour match at the Sydney Cricket Ground Sunday.

                International umpires Darrell Hair and Simon Taufel first
reported replacement
                Indian captain Saurav Ganguly for standing mid-pitch
watching big screen replays
                of unsuccessful appeals on Saturday night.

                Match referee*** French, a former Test umpire, again
Sunday handed a report
                from the match umpires to Indian team management.

                On Sunday Taufel had words with Javagal Srinath after a
rejected lbw appeal and on
                the next ball, after fellow paceman Venkatesh Prasad was
denied a catch behind,
                Hair again called out Ganguly for a team reprimand.

                But Indian team coach Kapil Dev after the match seemed to
indicate he would not
                act on the reports.

                ''I don't have to really reply if I don't feel like it,''
Dev said. ''If necessary I might do
                it. I'm not sitting on a horse for a dash. I'll take my
own sweet time. It's the
                beginning of the tour.

                ''We've got the letter and we'll see what we can do. I
don't know what's crossing
                the limit - that's when two different people think
differently.''

                Chasing 286 runs for victory on a wearing pitch offering
variable bounce, NSW went
                from 64 for one overnight to be all out for 192.

                Leg spinner Anil Kumble, who has 32 wickets in four Tests
against Australia,
                claimed the last four to have 8-88 for the match in an
impressive warm up for
                Friday's opening Test against Australia at Adelaide Oval.

                Rookie opener Greg Hayne laboured five and a half hours
for 89, his maiden
                first-class half-century in his fourth game for NSW.

                The confrontations were the last thing the Australian
Cricket Board needed after the
                controversy over Pakistani paceman Shoaib Akhtar's bowling
action last month.

                Hair, who no-balled Sri Lankan Muttiah Muralitharan at the
Melbourne Cricket
                Ground, is likely to officiate in one of the three Indian
Tests.

                Kapil Dev Saturday took offence at Hair telling Ganguly
that Pakistan had been told
                they would not be allowed to disrupt the game by watching
replays and commenting
                on them and neither would India.

                He said Hair had told Ganguly: ''First the Pakistanis and
now why are you Indians
                doing it?''

                Ganguly said afterwards of the report: ''It's a job for
the management. Sometimes
                we do get carried away on the field but we all make
mistakes so we should all just
                forget it on the cricket field.

                ''Today we just asked what happened. Was it close, going
down legside?''

                The match was outside the jurisdiction of the ACB and the
ICC as it was neither a
                Test nor a one-day international.

                However, NSW captain Michael Bevan said the Indians'
approach could backfire in
                the three-Test series.

                ''They were certainly pretty aggressive in terms of
appealing and things like putting
                pressure on the umpires,'' Bevan said.

                ''But I don't think they'll get some of the decisions they
do at home and it probably
                might work against them.''

                Bevan said there was a bit of sledging both ways but it
wasn't overboard.

                ''They've got some good Test players but I don't think
that's going to be the major issue deciding
                the series,'' he said.

                ''You'd expect if there's a bit of bounce there the
Australians would win but if they're low and
                slow the Indians are probably 50-50.''

                The Indians are bidding to reverse an unflattering record
of two away series wins abroad in 28
                years.

                Stung by a ten-wicket thrashing in the tour opener in
Brisbane a week ago, then rolled for 185 in
                the first innings here by NSW, India fought back doggedly.

                Australia are likely to face a more aggressive Indian side
than the one that lost 4-0 on the last tour
                here eight years ago.

 
 
 

Indians warned again by match umpires in big win over NSW

Post by A Morga » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

How do you get that, from what I saw they were claiming a bat pad catch -
which on the replay was clearly out.

Also what many in the media (sorry the source is pathetic) have said is
that Hair took exception to the fact that the Indians stood in the middle
of the pitch continuously watching replays of the incident after the
decision had been made.

Additonally I would like to point out that the decision was not made by
Hair but by umpire Taufel  Hair obviously took it on himself to talk to the
Indian captain given his seniority (as Taufel is only a youngen).

Cheers



Quote:
> AFP article. Taken from

http://SportToday.org/
389_AFP_05DEC1999.html

Quote:

> Ganguly claims that all the Indians did was ask "Was it close, going down
> legside?"

> Pretty similar, I should think, to asking, "How was I out? LBW? How?", I
> should think...

> -Samarth.

> ----------
>                 SYDNEY, Dec 5 (AFP) - India were again reported for
> dissent on their way to a
>                 convincing 93-run victory over New South Wales on the
> final day of their four-day
>                 cricket tour match at the Sydney Cricket Ground Sunday.

>                 International umpires Darrell Hair and Simon Taufel first
> reported replacement
>                 Indian captain Saurav Ganguly for standing mid-pitch
> watching big screen replays
>                 of unsuccessful appeals on Saturday night.

>                 Match referee*** French, a former Test umpire, again
> Sunday handed a report
>                 from the match umpires to Indian team management.

>                 On Sunday Taufel had words with Javagal Srinath after a
> rejected lbw appeal and on
>                 the next ball, after fellow paceman Venkatesh Prasad was
> denied a catch behind,
>                 Hair again called out Ganguly for a team reprimand.

>                 But Indian team coach Kapil Dev after the match seemed to
> indicate he would not
>                 act on the reports.

>                 ''I don't have to really reply if I don't feel like it,''
> Dev said. ''If necessary I might do
>                 it. I'm not sitting on a horse for a dash. I'll take my
> own sweet time. It's the
>                 beginning of the tour.

>                 ''We've got the letter and we'll see what we can do. I
> don't know what's crossing
>                 the limit - that's when two different people think
> differently.''

>                 Chasing 286 runs for victory on a wearing pitch offering
> variable bounce, NSW went
>                 from 64 for one overnight to be all out for 192.

>                 Leg spinner Anil Kumble, who has 32 wickets in four Tests
> against Australia,
>                 claimed the last four to have 8-88 for the match in an
> impressive warm up for
>                 Friday's opening Test against Australia at Adelaide Oval.

>                 Rookie opener Greg Hayne laboured five and a half hours
> for 89, his maiden
>                 first-class half-century in his fourth game for NSW.

>                 The confrontations were the last thing the Australian
> Cricket Board needed after the
>                 controversy over Pakistani paceman Shoaib Akhtar's
bowling
> action last month.

>                 Hair, who no-balled Sri Lankan Muttiah Muralitharan at
the
> Melbourne Cricket
>                 Ground, is likely to officiate in one of the three Indian
> Tests.

>                 Kapil Dev Saturday took offence at Hair telling Ganguly
> that Pakistan had been told
>                 they would not be allowed to disrupt the game by watching
> replays and commenting
>                 on them and neither would India.

>                 He said Hair had told Ganguly: ''First the Pakistanis and
> now why are you Indians
>                 doing it?''

>                 Ganguly said afterwards of the report: ''It's a job for
> the management. Sometimes
>                 we do get carried away on the field but we all make
> mistakes so we should all just
>                 forget it on the cricket field.

>                 ''Today we just asked what happened. Was it close, going
> down legside?''

>                 The match was outside the jurisdiction of the ACB and the
> ICC as it was neither a
>                 Test nor a one-day international.

>                 However, NSW captain Michael Bevan said the Indians'
> approach could backfire in
>                 the three-Test series.

>                 ''They were certainly pretty aggressive in terms of
> appealing and things like putting
>                 pressure on the umpires,'' Bevan said.

>                 ''But I don't think they'll get some of the decisions
they
> do at home and it probably
>                 might work against them.''

>                 Bevan said there was a bit of sledging both ways but it
> wasn't overboard.

>                 ''They've got some good Test players but I don't think
> that's going to be the major issue deciding
>                 the series,'' he said.

>                 ''You'd expect if there's a bit of bounce there the
> Australians would win but if they're low and
>                 slow the Indians are probably 50-50.''

>                 The Indians are bidding to reverse an unflattering record
> of two away series wins abroad in 28
>                 years.

>                 Stung by a ten-wicket thrashing in the tour opener in
> Brisbane a week ago, then rolled for 185 in
>                 the first innings here by NSW, India fought back
doggedly.

>                 Australia are likely to face a more aggressive Indian
side
> than the one that lost 4-0 on the last tour
>                 here eight years ago.


 
 
 

Indians warned again by match umpires in big win over NSW

Post by Mike Pric » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Pretty similar, I should think, to asking, "How was I out? LBW?
How?", I
>should think...

Where does this second "how" come from all of a suddent in Ponting's
statement.

Just as Drewy,  I thought you were one of the more sensible posters to
this group until this incident.  Adding a word here and there to
completely twist the truth.  Ponting said "How was I out?  LBW?"
Adding the 2nd how makes it sound like he is demanding an answer of
the umpire and that is exactly how you are attempting to make it
appear by tacking the extra word on.

Mike