Allott's 'duck'

Allott's 'duck'

Post by asidd.. » Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:00:00


 There have been some confusing reports about Allott's feat. It was stated
that he beat Geoffery Evans' record. However, Evans was scoreless only for
the FIRST 97 minutes at the crease; he then went on to score 10*. I couldn't
find any instance of a player who batted for at least an hour in a Test
innings without scoring at least one run.

A. Longest time before scoring the first run in a first-class match:

Mins
101   GI Allott (0)    New Zealand v S Africa    Auckland     1998-99
 97   TG Evans (10*)   England v Australia       Adelaide     1946-47
 87   VR Hogg (0)      Zim-Rhodesia B v Natal B  P'maritzburg 1979-80
 84   RK Chauhan (9)   India v Sri Lanka         Ahmedabad    1993-94
 82   PI Pocock (13)   England v West Indies     Georgetown   1967-68
 81   EJW Jackson (4)  Cambridge U v Oxford U    Lord's       1974

In Test matches only:

 74   JT Murray (3*)   England v Australia       Sydney       1962-63
 72   CG Rackemann (9) Australia v England       Sydney       1990-91
 72   HH Streak (19*)  Zimbabwe v Pakistan       Karachi      1993-94
 70   WL Murdoch (17)  Austalia v England        Sydney       1882-83
 69   RM Hogg (7*)     Australia v West Indies   Adelaide     1984-85
 67   CJ Tavare (82)   England v Pakistan        Lord's       1982
 66   JG Wright (38)   New Zealand v Australia   Wellington   1981-82
 65   Shujauddin (45)  Pakistan v Australia      Lahore       1959-60
 64   CE Eks*** (21)  S Africa v New Zealand    Auckland     1994-95
 63   CJ Tavare (9)    England v Australia       Perth        1982-83
 63   PCR Tufnell (2*) England v India           Bombay       1992-93
 62   MA Taylor (49)   Australia v England       Sydney       1994-95

B. Longest intervals without adding to a score during a first-class innings
(individual score was greater than 0 when the ordeal began):

131   Shoaib Mohammad    Kar Blues v Lahore Whites Lahore     1983-84
111   AGD Wickremasinghe Sri Lankans v Victoria    Sale       1989-90
107   JD Siddons         S Aust v W Aust           Adelaide   1995-96
 98   HJ Kimber          Canterbury v N Districts  Hamilton   1991-92
 94   MC Snedden         New Zealand v Australia   Wellington 1989-90
 93   Mohsin Khan        Punjab v England XI       Bhawalpur  1977-78
 91   JJ Crowe           New Zealand v West Indies Bridgetown 1984-85
 90   B Mitchell         South Africa v Australia  Brisbane   1931-32
 90   CJ Tavare          England v Austraila       Perth      1982-83
 90   G Fowler           Lancashire v Warwicks     Birmingham 1989

aslam
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Allott's 'duck'

Post by Srira » Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Any particular reason why the comparisons are made only on the basis of
time as opposed to number of balls faced? I do know that time was the
norm long long ago. But I was under the impression that no. of balls is
the preferred statistic these days. Im not trying to slam you Aslam,
just curious. This particular record has been mentioned only in terms of
time, wonder why.

-Sriram

 
 
 

Allott's 'duck'

Post by Stephen Devau » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Any particular reason why the comparisons are made only on the basis of
> time as opposed to number of balls faced? I do know that time was the
> norm long long ago. But I was under the impression that no. of balls is
> the preferred statistic these days. Im not trying to slam you Aslam,
> just curious. This particular record has been mentioned only in terms of
> time, wonder why.

> -Sriram

Hm. John Clark's formula may be very accurate in predicting how many
deliveries a batsman faced in scoring a century, but why do I feel it
would be useless in predicting how many he faced in scoring a duck?

Fraternally in cricket,

Steve the Bajan

 
 
 

Allott's 'duck'

Post by Aslam Siddiqu » Thu, 04 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Any particular reason why the comparisons are made only on the basis of
> time as opposed to number of balls faced? I do know that time was the
> norm long long ago. But I was under the impression that no. of balls is
> the preferred statistic these days. Im not trying to slam you Aslam,
> just curious. This particular record has been mentioned only in terms of
> time, wonder why.

> -Sriram
>  In the past, before the advent of the Limited-overs games, the records
> for the ball faced by a batsman were not universally kept, whereas the
> time was always available from the scorebooks. For example, Jimmy Sinclair
> of South Africa scored a Test century in 80 minutes (v Aus, Cape Town,
> 1902-03) but the number of balls faced by him wasn't recorded at that
> time. A reconstruction from the scorebooks shows that it may actually have
> been faster than Viv Richards 56-ball effort (a record in terms of balls
> received).

 Simply put, the record for the time spent at the crease is always available
but not the number of the balls faced.

aslam

 
 
 

Allott's 'duck'

Post by cl.. » Sat, 06 Mar 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

> > Any particular reason why the comparisons are made only on the basis of
> > time as opposed to number of balls faced? I do know that time was the
> > norm long long ago. But I was under the impression that no. of balls is
> > the preferred statistic these days. Im not trying to slam you Aslam,
> > just curious. This particular record has been mentioned only in terms of
> > time, wonder why.

> > -Sriram

> Hm. John Clark's formula may be very accurate in predicting how many
> deliveries a batsman faced in scoring a century, but why do I feel it
> would be useless in predicting how many he faced in scoring a duck?

Yes, it is quite useless for low scores (and 0 is one of the lowest!).

The main reason that time is preferred to balls faced for these records (slow
and fast scoring) is historical.  Only recently has the number of balls faced
been recorded, so we can't compare Allott's effort with others simply because
the information wasn't recorded.

Chances are that Evans (the previous record holder in terms of minutes) did
face more balls than Allott, since overs were bowled at a much faster rate
then.

John Clark.

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