>I think WI would top the list considering they had a batting lineup
>consisting of Greenidge, Haynes, Richards, Lloyd and their bowling -
>Roberts, Holding, Garner, Croft, Marshall was simply the best. Second would
>be the Aussie team of the 70's ..... quite a difficult pick between Thomson,
>Lillee, Pascoe and McGarth, Gillespie, Warne. The current batting however,
>would be much more solid than the 70's team with only the Chappell's who
>could be termed world-class..
Here's where it comes down to opinion.
IMO the current Australian team would lose to the 80s Windies team.
Slater and Blewett aren't the openers I want facing the Windies opening attack.
(I'm not sure who the openers I _do_ want facing the 80s attack are, but it
isn't Slater and Blewett)
Slater averages 29.71 against the 90s model Windies team and, while Ambrose is a
great bowler I'm not certain that he's better than Garner, the rest is no
Blewett averages 32.94 against the current Windies lineup but a) I suspect it to
go down if he plays them again and b) somehow I fancy that Holding, Marshall &
Garner would work him out pretty quickly.
Langer I'm unsure about. I would expect him to do reasonably against the 80s
Windies but I admit that I could be wrong. Certainly Marshall and Holding would
pick up the early innings shuffle and be firing the ball in for an lbw decision.
I suspect he might go the Wessels approach of 84-85 and look to hit anything
just slightly offline or length.
Mark Waugh - the _current_ Mark Waugh would make Kim Hughes' 84-85 effort look
good. Mark at his best would probably be similar to Gower. Play a few great
innings - sometimes under massive pressure - but overall be down on their best.
Steve Waugh - I don't think that he'd do as well against them as he has the
current Windies lineup but I would be extremely surprised if he didn't average
45 or higher. Note that he did play the 88-89 Windies which had Marshall,
Ambrose, Walsh & Patterson. He averaged 41.38 with 3 50s from 9 innings.
Against that his current play well back method leaves him vulnerable to a full
ball early and Holding & Marshall can exploit that. Of course Laird used a
similar approach and he did well against the Windies so...
One problem he might have is that the 80s Windies attack is going to roll the
tail quicker than most modern teams. He might have to attack more at the end.
Ponting - I don't really know how he'd go. I know what he'd _try_ and do but
taking the Windies on with the hook isn't the easiest thing to do. Maybe he's
good enough to do it but I'm not confident.
Gilchrist - time will tell more about his batting than we know now. He's batted
very well in the tests he's played so far but hasn't faced anything like the 80s
Windies attack. Considering the strength of the 80s Windies batting he could be
keeping for a couple of days before he gets a go at the crease, that has to
reduce his effectiveness with the bat but I haven't seen enough of his batting
in tests to give a fair assesment of his chances. I _do_ know that if he and
Ponting got going agains the 80s Windies it'd be a contest worth watching <g>
I doubt that the tail would be anything like as effective as they have been in
McGrath - I expect him to be the main threat of the quicks. Again he wouldn't be
as effective as he is against most current teams but he will be a credible
performer. I'd pick him to average around 4 wickets per test at somewhere
between 24 & 28. Gut feeling around 26-27.
Fleming - Again, I'd pick him to be down slightly on effectiveness put still
useful. 31/2 wickets per test at 28-32. Probably 28-30 range.
Gillespie - I'd see him as less effective than the above two. Any team which
practices against Marshall et al and has domestic teams with 3 or 4 test Windies
bowlers will be useful against pace and somewhat resistant to intimidation.
Similar for Lee.
Warne - again, hard to be sure. On paper you'd expect him to do extremely well
against any team which Bob Holland managed to roll in 84-85. In practice Haynes,
Greenidge, Richards and Lloyd might be able to rattle him. It also comes down to
exactly how well he's actually bowling now which isn't easy to tell. Is the
match in Sydney?
I see our opening partnership and Mark Waugh being fatal flaws in our batting.
Without a solid start (which I don't see Blewett and Slater providing) we'll
find it extremely hard to pressure the Windies. Haynes and Greenidge are much
more likely to provide a good basis for the rest of the team to put on a massive
The 70s Australia vs the 80s Windies is a hard call. Again I suspect that the
70s Australian openers would struggle and, while Ian Chappell was an extremely
good #3 he and Greg might be expose too early to succeed consistently. Doug
Walter's periscope shot would probably cost him a bit, unless he could get a
The 70s Australian bowling versus the Windies would be a show to watch though.
70s Australia versus 90s Australia.
Partly it depends on exactly when in the 70s. If Thommo and Lillee were at their
absolute peaks with Walker and Mallett as backup then I think the 70s pace
attack might have a slight edge. Warne would be a better attacking bowler than
Mallett was actually used for at that stage (Mallett could attack but was used
to keep an end tight while Lillee and Thommo were there)
The batting is a tough comparison. neither side's openers strike me as
particularly likely to do great. I probably lean _marginally_ towards the 70s
openers versus the 90s attack compared to the 90s openers versus the 70s attack,
largely because of Blewett.
Langer, again I expect him to do reasonably well but not dominate. average
Similar for Ian Chappell, although I _also_ have to say that he is capable of
getting right up McGrath's nose and putting him right off his game. Probably
average just a touch over Langer for performance.
Again, based on recent performance I don't expect Mark to do well. Of course he
could get after Mailey and cause some headaches but I would expect Lillee &
Thommo to sort him out, especially with the problems he's had against the short
ball since he stopped hooking.
Greg Chappell. I had thought that he had problems against consistent strong pace
attacks until people pointed out his performance in WSC to me. I'd expect him to
be in the top couple of batsmen in either side. Him and Steve duking it out for
I can't think who the typicaly 70s #5 would be. I think Redpath would be a
chance. I would expect him to be a 35 average. Could be in trouble during a
collapse but capable of counterattacking.
Steve Waugh will do extremely well. It'd suprise me if he didn't average 45+ and
50+ would be possible.
Ponting - again I'm unsure. I would expect Lillee and Walker to try and get him
falling across the full ball around off stump. If he's not in top form he'd
Walters - again the short ball could find him out. Of course if helmets were in
he'd do better and I really don't want to think about Mark Waugh facing either
the 70s Aus or 80s Windies teams without a helmet.
Marsh - the best keeper of the 3 in contention. Also useful with the bat during
the 70s. Might average around 30.
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