Azhar kicks Vengserkar's butt.

Azhar kicks Vengserkar's butt.

Post by Anonymo » Sun, 22 Mar 1998 04:00:00


When it comes to playing in India no one can beat Azhar.
I am happy that he has left overrated and useless Vengs'kar
far behind in all records.

bye

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Post by Mshivla » Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Useless Vengsarkar?
Gosh, are our memories that short?  Why are you knocking a great player to prop
another great one?  Three centuries at Lords not anything to you?  How did you
feel when he did that?  Was he that useless then?  

ANY player who averages more than 40 per innnings is not useless.  Vengsarkar,
BYT, also shared a record partnership (for India) with Gavaskar at the very
same Eden Gardens against the Windies in 1979-80, didn't he?  

DV was a fine player who had to deal with a mediocore bowling attack.  Under
the constant pressure of producing, I think he did just fine.  Please check
your records before attacking players who obviously did themselves proud.  

 
 
 

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Post by Ramesh Ponnegan » Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Vengy had no class or style. He is no way in the class of
Gavaskar, Vishy and Mohinder.

 
 
 

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Post by Mike Holma » Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>Vengy had no class or style. He is no way in the class of
>Gavaskar, Vishy and Mohinder.

Really?

The Vengsarkar I remember was an elegant, very correct, very straight
player. I especially remember a big hundred against England at
Headingley, on one of those Headingley tracks which favoured bowlers
and it took technique and application to amass a decent score. He was,
in my view, a very good player.

Not a great player, but a very good one. I'd certainly rate Gavaskar
and Vishy above him. Mohinder Amarnath, I'm not so convinced about
him. He had a short period of being amazing, but his *whole* career
wasn't immensely impressive.

Cheers,

Mike

--
Non sine Rampo Britannia victoriam habebit

 
 
 

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Post by Sachin P Lod » Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:00:00

: Really?

: The Vengsarkar I remember was an elegant, very correct, very straight
: player. I especially remember a big hundred against England at
: Headingley, on one of those Headingley tracks which favoured bowlers
: and it took technique and application to amass a decent score. He was,
: in my view, a very good player.

  And IIRC Mike, his stance is ( was ) considered to be one of the
best !  Actually, in India's 86 tour of England, his magnificient
performance made him very popular with English coaches who started
teaching their lads Vengy's style !! ( Damn it, I do not remember the
coach's name :(, but it seems this coach had Vengy's huge potrait hung
in his office ).

  In any case, he was a good player and performer for India for more
than a decade. Peace,

- Sachin

 
 
 

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Post by Narayana » Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>The Vengsarkar I remember was an elegant, very correct, very straight
>player. I especially remember a big hundred against England at
>Headingley, on one of those Headingley tracks which favoured bowlers
>and it took technique and application to amass a decent score. He was,
>in my view, a very good player.

Yes Vengy was a treat to watch on Indian and English soil.

Quote:

>Not a great player, but a very good one. I'd certainly rate Gavaskar
>and Vishy above him. Mohinder Amarnath, I'm not so convinced about
>him. He had a short period of being amazing, but his *whole* career
>wasn't immensely impressive.

Comparing Vengy and Amarnath ?
Mohinder was definitely a better player of fast bowling on bouncy tracks
a rare comodity. Vengsarkar and Amarnath had similar avgs.
Vengsarkar had 32 away avg and 55 home 4 away 100s(all England) and 13
home. Amarnath had 30ish home and 50 away avg. He had lot many 100s
away. Considering the value of away series Amarnath was definitely
more precious.

Coming to the subjectline: I don't agree at least with the language.
But Azhar has done more to Indian cricket than Vengy as a captain
and fielder he was way way ahead of many others.
As a batsman he has been as bad as Vengy on bouncy tracks but
deadlier at home. Most importantly Vengy would criticize others
for their batting on bouncy tracks when his own is bad( as in 1989).
Azhar so far has not done that. I remember an article by Vengy
on how well he played likes of Lilee Thommo Marshall holding and even
Croft(who has never bowled against India) when the facts or otherwise.
In any case I won't consider Azhar or Vengy great players.

Cheers,
Narayanan(In 1986 Vengy's batting great)

Quote:
>Cheers,

>Mike

>--
>Non sine Rampo Britannia victoriam habebit

 
 
 

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Post by VengyBashe » Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>  In any case, he was a good player and performer for India for more
>than a decade. Peace,

Only on dead Indian tracks.  Outside India he sucked big time in all
countries except England.  Please do not write ***without following
cricket.
Azhar is any day as good as Vengy , perhaps even better.

Mr. Vengsarkar Basher

 
 
 

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Post by VengyBashe » Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>As a batsman he has been as bad as Vengy on bouncy tracks but
>deadlier at home.

One correction. Vengy was bad in Pakistan & NZ also , not necessarily
bouncy tracks of Aus and WI.

Mr. Ven'kar basher.