Doing the right thing...

Doing the right thing...

Post by Prashant Murt » Tue, 30 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> apparantly the Australians called back a SA batsman (happy Steve and Ian?
> :}) after Blewett didnt quite take a catch, even tho the umpire had given
> the batter out...

Blewett ? I heard that the fielder was Ponting, and that the "calling
back" was all his (Ponting's) doing. Iirc the batsman was Bacher

Quote:
> and would have the SA players (or any other nation) called back an Aussie in
> the same situation? I'm saying they wouldnt, just pondering...

I'll venture my $.02 worth - imo over 90% of international cricketers,
across all teams, would have done the right thing and called the batsman
back.

Cheers,

        -Prashant Murti

 
 
 

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Post by Donald Ros » Tue, 30 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Ponting was at Silly Mid Off and he dived for a catch off Bacher diving
forward roughly 3metres (or yards if you wish).  He made the catch but the
rough surface of the pitch dragged his forearms under the upper half of his
body and dislodged the ball which rolled down the left side of his body and
nearly underneath him thereby obscuring the drop from the Umpire.  The
umpire gave the batsman out--Caught.  Healy was jogging up to Ponting and
was signalling to everyone that the catch was not taken.  Quite separately
from Healy Ponting was signalling that the catch had been 'grassed'.  

The TV cameras provided a clear view of the ball being 'grassed'.  At least
two other members of the Australian team were also signalling that the
catch had not been held.  Therefore it was not just Ponting who was honest,
but about four members of the Australian team who were independently
ensuring that the right thing was being done.  None of these players would
have been aware in the heat of the moment that TV cameras were recording
the incident in detail.  Their actions were honourable and instinctive and
should be lauded as such.
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Quote:
> apparantly the Australians called back a SA batsman (happy Steve and Ian?
> :}) after Blewett didnt quite take a catch, even tho the umpire had given
> the batter out...
> can anybody elaborate on this, as i was listening on radio and wasnt able
to
> catch allt he details...

> and would have the SA players (or any other nation) called back an Aussie
in
> the same situation? I'm saying they wouldnt, just pondering...


 
 
 

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Post by Ben Kirtlan » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00

apparantly the Australians called back a SA batsman (happy Steve and Ian?
:}) after Blewett didnt quite take a catch, even tho the umpire had given
the batter out...
can anybody elaborate on this, as i was listening on radio and wasnt able to
catch allt he details...

and would have the SA players (or any other nation) called back an Aussie in
the same situation? I'm saying they wouldnt, just pondering...

 
 
 

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Post by Bob Burde » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00

What are ya saying ?   Australia the only ethical/sporting side in the
world!!!!   Dream on.   What on earth would make you ponder something as
absurd as that.   Have you forgotten the Chappel underarm incident!!!!!  
How "honest" would Ponting have looked seeing the dropped catch in todays
papers.   It is not the first time a batsman has been given out only to be
recalled by the fielder who did not quite hold the catch.  If you recall
the West Indies still believe that one of the Waughs did not hold a catch
playing them.   So whilst you might think Australia are the only fair team
- come back to earth.



Quote:
> apparantly the Australians called back a SA batsman (happy Steve and Ian?
> :}) after Blewett didnt quite take a catch, even tho the umpire had given
> the batter out...
> can anybody elaborate on this, as i was listening on radio and wasnt able
to
> catch allt he details...

> and would have the SA players (or any other nation) called back an Aussie
in
> the same situation? I'm saying they wouldnt, just pondering...

 
 
 

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Post by Bonga » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00

On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 04:10:55 +1030, "Ben Kirtland"

Quote:

>and would have the SA players (or any other nation) called back an Aussie in
>the same situation? I'm saying they wouldnt, just pondering...

Jonty Rhodes has done something similar before.

Bongani

 
 
 

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Post by Ben Kirtlan » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00

oooooppppppss major typo there....

Quote:
>>I'm saying they wouldnt, just pondering...

should have read "I'm NOT saying they wouldnt...."

i agree, i'm sure that SA would have recalled an Aussie in the same
situation, well i hope they would have, but in these days of  TV replays,
you kinda have to, dont ya?

Quote:

>What are ya saying ?   Australia the only ethical/sporting side in the
>world!!!!   Dream on.   What on earth would make you ponder something as
>absurd as that.   Have you forgotten the Chappel underarm incident!!!!!
>How "honest" would Ponting have looked seeing the dropped catch in todays
>papers.   It is not the first time a batsman has been given out only to be
>recalled by the fielder who did not quite hold the catch.  If you recall
>the West Indies still believe that one of the Waughs did not hold a catch
>playing them.   So whilst you might think Australia are the only fair team
>- come back to earth.

 
 
 

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Post by Shaun Jaye » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Jonty Rhodes called back a player when even the TV replay could'nt tell if
he had grassed it.
I would like to think, that despite the new era of win at all costs ( in
most sports), cricket still remains a game characterised by ethics and
sportmanship.
Besides he would have looked like a real tit, after millions of people saw
him drop it.

 
 
 

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Post by Kip » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> apparantly the Australians called back a SA batsman (happy Steve and Ian?
> :}) after Blewett didnt quite take a catch, even tho the umpire had given
> the batter out...
> can anybody elaborate on this, as i was listening on radio and wasnt able
to
> catch allt he details...

> and would have the SA players (or any other nation) called back an Aussie
in
> the same situation? I'm saying they wouldnt, just pondering...

Ben in this situation Ponting was fielding at silly point, dived forward
took the catch, then spilled it.  The TV replay was very clear and he
signaled that he hadn't held it as soon as he was able.  The umpire was
obstructed from seeing him spill the ball as it squeezed out on his left
hand side while he was laying on the ground (the ump was on his right).
IMO Cronje and RSA would have done the same.  Cronje has infact recalled a
batsman before (ie withdrawn the appeal - bat/pad catch Steve Fleming
offered at Newlands I think but the details evade me, I'm sure Bob Dubery
will remember).  Another note may be to say that with the clarity of the
situation on TV any player that claimed the catch may well have never
played for his country again, so I suppose one could say (with reference to
this specific occurance) a player would be forced to indicate he hadn't
taken it.  Personally I like Ponting as a player and would have hated it if
he had tarnished my view of him in this manner.  There seemed to me to be
the usual niggle between the two teams, but thats the way they play against
each other and I believe the majority of the time it is done in the spirit
of competitiveness and that within this context the game is played fairly.
In short even if the camera wasn't able to confirm Ponting had dropped the
catch, I think he would have indicated he hadn't held it and likewise the
rest of the players of both teams would have done the same.
Regards Kip
 
 
 

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Post by Mic Cull » Wed, 31 Dec 1997 04:00:00


have written:

Quote:
>apparantly the Australians called back a SA batsman (happy Steve and Ian?
>:}) after Blewett didnt quite take a catch, even tho the umpire had given
>the batter out...
>can anybody elaborate on this, as i was listening on radio and wasnt able to
>catch allt he details...

Catch popped to Ponting who grabbed it cleanly but it popped out when he hit
the deck. This was obscured from the umpire. Ponting came up waving the catch
not out. Good work by him.

Quote:
>and would have the SA players (or any other nation) called back an Aussie in
>the same situation? I'm saying they wouldnt, just pondering...

While there are a couple of teams around that I'd not back to call Aussies
back, I'd be pretty confident that the RSA's would do it. (Except Bacher, if
his appeals for catches at short leg are anything to go by. They may not be,
but who can tell?) They seem to be a very fair team.

cheers,

Mic. (www.cross.com.au) The return address *will* work as is...
Cross Purposes Studios - Web & Graphic Design

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Post by Ben Kirtlan » Thu, 01 Jan 1998 04:00:00

yeah, i wasnt sure who it was because i was half listening to the radio at
the time...

Quote:


>> apparantly the Australians called back a SA batsman (happy Steve and Ian?
>> :}) after Blewett didnt quite take a catch, even tho the umpire had given
>> the batter out...

>Blewett ? I heard that the fielder was Ponting, and that the "calling
>back" was all his (Ponting's) doing. Iirc the batsman was Bacher

>> and would have the SA players (or any other nation) called back an Aussie
in
>> the same situation? I'm saying they wouldnt, just pondering...

>I'll venture my $.02 worth - imo over 90% of international cricketers,
>across all teams, would have done the right thing and called the batsman
>back.

>Cheers,

> -Prashant Murti

 
 
 

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Post by Jay » Thu, 01 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
> I would like to think, that despite the new era of win at all costs (
> in
> most sports), cricket still remains a game characterised by ethics and

> sportmanship.
> Besides he would have looked like a real tit, after millions of people
> saw
> him drop it.

   Ponting could have done what SWaugh did in 1995 when he grassed Lara
and told the umpire he didn't know what happenned......he didn't, this
test has proved that after coming in at 4-77 and 4-44 and helping the
team recover that he is of great temperament, has tremendous skill and
balance and is also an honest cricketer.

Jay
Go Gilchrist!