Warne loser on doctored pitch

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Philip Stephe » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00


The traditional spinners track at the SCG was doctored (or as one local news
reporter put it- surgically altered) to suit the pace bowlers in the recent
third test match, with Shane Warne being the biggest loser. However, it is a
case of country before an individual.
 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Dan t » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

suit pace bowlers?

481 runs in one day....  Australia 5/550.....

Do you know what you are talking about?

.


Quote:
> The traditional spinners track at the SCG was doctored (or as one local
news
> reporter put it- surgically altered) to suit the pace bowlers in the
recent
> third test match, with Shane Warne being the biggest loser. However, it is
a
> case of country before an individual.


 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Dave B » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 08:34:38 +1100, in article

scribe:

Quote:
>suit pace bowlers?

>481 runs in one day....  Australia 5/550.....

>Do you know what you are talking about?

Given Steve Waugh agreed with him, do you?

Quote:


>> The traditional spinners track at the SCG was doctored (or as one local
>news
>> reporter put it- surgically altered) to suit the pace bowlers in the
>recent
>> third test match, with Shane Warne being the biggest loser. However, it is
>a
>> case of country before an individual.

--
cheers,

Dave



 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Dan t » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 08:34:38 +1100, in article

> scribe:

> >suit pace bowlers?

> >481 runs in one day....  Australia 5/550.....

> >Do you know what you are talking about?

> Given Steve Waugh agreed with him, do you?

So your saying that a pitch that produced that many runs at that incredible
run rate was doctored for fast bowling?  What a complete load of crap.

Ill hate to see a flat track in your mind.

 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Philip Stephe » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I certainly know what I am talking about, I only hope you do! It is not the
number of runs scored during the match, but which type of bowler who took
the wickets that matter in this case.
Regards.
Phil.


Quote:
> suit pace bowlers?

> 481 runs in one day....  Australia 5/550.....

> Do you know what you are talking about?



> > The traditional spinners track at the SCG was doctored (or as one local
> news
> > reporter put it- surgically altered) to suit the pace bowlers in the
> recent
> > third test match, with Shane Warne being the biggest loser. However, it
is
> a
> > case of country before an individual.

 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Will Sutto » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Well let me see, after the success of Lee in Melbourne the curator decided
to doctor the pitch to suit the quick bowlers. He must be one hell of
a curator to be able to change a wicket so quickly  :-)

Or would it be more sensible to talk about the new source of Bulli soil
they they now have and is been used to make the pitches.

Quote:

> I certainly know what I am talking about, I only hope you do! It is not the
> number of runs scored during the match, but which type of bowler who took
> the wickets that matter in this case.
> Regards.
> Phil.



> > suit pace bowlers?

> > 481 runs in one day....  Australia 5/550.....

> > Do you know what you are talking about?



> > > The traditional spinners track at the SCG was doctored (or as one local
> > news
> > > reporter put it- surgically altered) to suit the pace bowlers in the
> > recent
> > > third test match, with Shane Warne being the biggest loser. However, it
> is
> > a
> > > case of country before an individual.

 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Mad Hami » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
>The traditional spinners track at the SCG was doctored (or as one local news
>reporter put it- surgically altered) to suit the pace bowlers in the recent
>third test match, with Shane Warne being the biggest loser. However, it is a
>case of country before an individual.

Hardly. As I understand it the patch was relaid at the start of the season and
it's been better for quicks, spinners can get wickets if they bowl well and
Bevan has struggled.

India played Warne very well in this test, partly by not playing Lee and McGrath
well in the first innings but...

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Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Dave B » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:38:21 +1100, in article

scribe:

Quote:



>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 08:34:38 +1100, in article

>> scribe:

>> >suit pace bowlers?

>> >481 runs in one day....  Australia 5/550.....

>> >Do you know what you are talking about?

>> Given Steve Waugh agreed with him, do you?

>So your saying that a pitch that produced that many runs at that incredible
>run rate was doctored for fast bowling?  

What were India bowled out for in the first innings for again? What's
that you say? 150? What an INCREDIBLE score. And in the second? 260?
Wow, *world* beating. Did you even consider that Australia scored so
heavily because India's bowling was crap?

Quote:
>What a complete load of crap.

Steve Waugh said he'd never seen a pitch like this at the SCG before
and that he expected it would suit the pace bowlers. If you think
that's a load of crap, that's your opinion. If it was such a flat
track BTW, why didn't they pick a second spinner?

--
cheers,

Dave


 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Ian Galbrai » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

:The traditional spinners track at the SCG was doctored (or as one local news
:reporter put it- surgically altered) to suit the pace bowlers in the recent
:third test match, with Shane Warne being the biggest loser. However, it is a
:case of country before an individual.

They have laid a completely new pitch which doesn't suit spin as much as
the old one. It's been said right throughout the Shield season that the
pitch is different to the old one, its not something that changed for the
test. How is this 'doctoring'?

 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Dan t » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> I certainly know what I am talking about, I only hope you do! It is not
the
> number of runs scored during the match, but which type of bowler who took
> the wickets that matter in this case.
> Regards.
> Phil.

If it was doctored to suit fast bowling then someone did a very poor job of
it.
 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Philip Stephe » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quoting from the Sydney Morning Herald of 01.01.2000 - Article by Phil
Wilkins and Mark Ray.

" The Indians' worst New Year nightmares will come true today when they
arrive at the Sydney Cricket Ground to find the fastest, best-grassed SCG
pitch in 20 years for the third test against Australia, starting tomorrow"

"Gone are the almost traditional bald patches of recent seasons which saw
many SCG pitches turn from day one, replaced by several ribs of green grass
against the overall turf cover"

"Curator Tom Parker said it is probably one of the grassiest and hopefully
one of the quickest we have seen here for some time, for 20 years or so"

"Parker's words will strike the Indians a sickening jolt. Their expectations
were to be confronted by a patchy, low bouncing strip with a finger spinner
such as Harbhajan Singh joining leg spinner Anil Kumble in the frontline of
their attack"

The above should illustrate the point I was trying to make, and why spinners
including Shane Warne could not take many wickets.

Regards.
Phil.


Quote:



> > I certainly know what I am talking about, I only hope you do! It is not
> the
> > number of runs scored during the match, but which type of bowler who
took
> > the wickets that matter in this case.
> > Regards.
> > Phil.

> If it was doctored to suit fast bowling then someone did a very poor job
of
> it.

 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Moby Dic » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> The traditional spinners track at the SCG was doctored (or as one local news
> reporter put it- surgically altered) to suit the pace bowlers in the recent
> third test match, with Shane Warne being the biggest loser. However, it is a
> case of country before an individual.

Of course the reason that the SCG pitch needed to be re-laid has nothing
to do with improvements to the ground for the olympics this year...

Moby***.
Of course not, that would make all those *** theories you can make
up about it wrong.

 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Will Sutto » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Quoting from the Sydney Morning Herald of 01.01.2000 - Article by Phil
> Wilkins and Mark Ray.

> " The Indians' worst New Year nightmares will come true today when they
> arrive at the Sydney Cricket Ground to find the fastest, best-grassed SCG
> pitch in 20 years for the third test against Australia, starting tomorrow"

> "Gone are the almost traditional bald patches of recent seasons which saw
> many SCG pitches turn from day one, replaced by several ribs of green grass
> against the overall turf cover"

> "Curator Tom Parker said it is probably one of the grassiest and hopefully
> one of the quickest we have seen here for some time, for 20 years or so"

> "Parker's words will strike the Indians a sickening jolt. Their expectations
> were to be confronted by a patchy, low bouncing strip with a finger spinner
> such as Harbhajan Singh joining leg spinner Anil Kumble in the frontline of
> their attack"

> The above should illustrate the point I was trying to make, and why spinners
> including Shane Warne could not take many wickets.

> Regards.
> Phil.

But the heading said he was a loser on a "doctored" pitch and the pitch was NOT
doctored. In other words the heading gave the impression that the wicket was
somehow changed from the wicket that was been prepared into something
that was a fast bowlers mecca.

The truth is that the centre area has been dug up and replaced with fresh
Bulli soil ( they now have a source for Bulli soil that will last quite a while)
and the Sydney pitches are now different from what they where in the
last couple of years.

 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Dave B » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:28:34 +1100, in article


Quote:


>> Quoting from the Sydney Morning Herald of 01.01.2000 - Article by Phil
>> Wilkins and Mark Ray.

>> " The Indians' worst New Year nightmares will come true today when they
>> arrive at the Sydney Cricket Ground to find the fastest, best-grassed SCG
>> pitch in 20 years for the third test against Australia, starting tomorrow"

>> "Gone are the almost traditional bald patches of recent seasons which saw
>> many SCG pitches turn from day one, replaced by several ribs of green grass
>> against the overall turf cover"

>> "Curator Tom Parker said it is probably one of the grassiest and hopefully
>> one of the quickest we have seen here for some time, for 20 years or so"

>> "Parker's words will strike the Indians a sickening jolt. Their expectations
>> were to be confronted by a patchy, low bouncing strip with a finger spinner
>> such as Harbhajan Singh joining leg spinner Anil Kumble in the frontline of
>> their attack"

>> The above should illustrate the point I was trying to make, and why spinners
>> including Shane Warne could not take many wickets.

>> Regards.
>> Phil.

>But the heading said he was a loser on a "doctored" pitch and the pitch was NOT
>doctored. In other words the heading gave the impression that the wicket was
>somehow changed from the wicket that was been prepared into something
>that was a fast bowlers mecca.

True, it was a *tad* misleading

Quote:
>The truth is that the centre area has been dug up and replaced with fresh
>Bulli soil ( they now have a source for Bulli soil that will last quite a while)
>and the Sydney pitches are now different from what they where in the
>last couple of years.

Yep, however as Philip stated, it was far from a spinners paradise.

--
cheers,

Dave


 
 
 

Warne loser on doctored pitch

Post by Ian Galbrai » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

:Quoting from the Sydney Morning Herald of 01.01.2000 - Article by Phil
:Wilkins and Mark Ray.

[snip quotes - can't you make your own arguments]

You still haven't addressed the point that its been this way the whole
season.