Best bowling action

Best bowling action

Post by Dipak Ba » Fri, 29 Dec 1995 04:00:00


I finished watching the Benson and Hedges video on best bowlers this
week.  In the fast bowling section, it was fascinating to watch the
powling actions of greats from Spofforth and Barnes to Willis and Kapil.
Overall I found the silky smoothest and most awesomely aggressive bowling
action to be none other than Harold Larwood's.

Dipak.

 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Farooq Kha » Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
(Dipak Basu) writes:

>I finished watching the Benson and Hedges video on best bowlers this
>week.  In the fast bowling section, it was fascinating to watch the
>powling actions of greats from Spofforth and Barnes to Willis and
Kapil.
>Overall I found the silky smoothest and most awesomely aggressive
bowling
>action to be none other than Harold Larwood's.

>Dipak.

The general consensus is that Dennis Lillee had the smoothest bowling
action. In terms of getting the most out of his run up and delivery as
well as preserving the body.

rgds
Farooq

 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Sridhar Mandy » Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Quote:


> (Dipak Basu) writes:

> >I finished watching the Benson and Hedges video on best bowlers this
> >week.  In the fast bowling section, it was fascinating to watch the
> >powling actions of greats from Spofforth and Barnes to Willis and
> Kapil.
> >Overall I found the silky smoothest and most awesomely aggressive
> bowling
> >action to be none other than Harold Larwood's.

> >Dipak.
> The general consensus is that Dennis Lillee had the smoothest bowling
> action. In terms of getting the most out of his run up and delivery as
> well as preserving the body.
> rgds
> Farooq


 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Dipak Ba » Mon, 01 Jan 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> The general consensus is that Dennis Lillee had the smoothest bowling
> action. In terms of getting the most out of his run up and delivery as
> well as preserving the body.

Lillee was wise.  He lasted much longer than Larwood.  From the video
comparison at least, I found Larwood's action much smoother.  I've not
seen him bowl myself.  Trueman came close (again in the video) to Larwood.

Dipak.

 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Hamish La » Tue, 02 Jan 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
>The general consensus is that Dennis Lillee had the smoothest bowling
>action. In terms of getting the most out of his run up and delivery as
>well as preserving the body.

Ummh, if you have a look at the amount of injuries Lillee had I don't see how
you can say he preserved his body.
As far as smooth goes I'd say of the moderns Holding, Marshall, Akram and
Hadlee. None of which had back or knee problems as far as I know.
But then again Walsh, Ambrose and Garner all looked very good as well

Overall though for actions I'd be tempted to opt for Lindwall for smooth and
Miller for impressive.
Holding and Hadlee would probably be next.

Mad Hamish

 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Rob Malpas » Tue, 02 Jan 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>  ) writes:

> >The general consensus is that Dennis Lillee had the smoothest bowling
> >action. In terms of getting the most out of his run up and delivery as
> >well as preserving the body.

> Ummh, if you have a look at the amount of injuries Lillee had I don't see how
> you can say he preserved his body.
> As far as smooth goes I'd say of the moderns Holding, Marshall, Akram and
> Hadlee. None of which had back or knee problems as far as I know.
> But then again Walsh, Ambrose and Garner all looked very good as well

I have to protest, Marshall, smooth - he had a whippy chest on action, I'm
not sure that can be classed as smooth, also, he really needed to run in
like the wind to generate pace, witness him in later years.   Same goes for
Garner, his action was pretty simple, but I don't consider it smooth, he
really had to exert himself to get speed and rhythm.   Sorry to be boring,
but I'd go for Lillee any day, he looked like he could bowl all day he was
so smooth.

I might throw another iron into the fire, how about Lenny Pascoe?   I haven't
seen much of him, but he looked quite smooth when I saw him bowl to poor old
Sandeep Patil in Sydney in 1981.   Doubt if Patil agreed though

Quote:

> Overall though for actions I'd be tempted to opt for Lindwall for smooth and
> Miller for impressive.
> Holding and Hadlee would probably be next.

> Mad Hamish

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Best bowling action

Post by John Hal » Tue, 02 Jan 1996 04:00:00



Quote:


>> The general consensus is that Dennis Lillee had the smoothest bowling
>> action. In terms of getting the most out of his run up and delivery as
>> well as preserving the body.

>Lillee was wise.  He lasted much longer than Larwood.

Quite apart from the political reasons why Larwood may not have been
picked for England again after the 1932-3 tour, I believe he was hardly
ever able to bowl at anything like full pace again, due to a fractured
bone in his foot that he suffered through the pounding of his foot on
the hard Australian pitches.

Quote:
>  From the video
>comparison at least, I found Larwood's action much smoother.  I've not
>seen him bowl myself.  Trueman came close (again in the video) to Larwood.

>Dipak.

--
Don't be so humble - you are not that great.
 Golda Meir (1898-1978) to a visiting diplomat
 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Tony Cardone - SAC » Tue, 02 Jan 1996 04:00:00

Nothing but nothing beats Jeff Thomson's javelin like action when he was
in full flight and bowling those cannon balls. The sight of him trotting in
on the long run and then unleashing in one almighty slingshot was pure  
poetry in motion.

Have you ever seen a bowler make full use of their shoulder like Thommo did.
Truly amazing !

Cheers

Tony

 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Farooq Kha » Tue, 02 Jan 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


(Farooq Khan ) writes:

>>The general consensus is that Dennis Lillee had the smoothest bowling
>>action. In terms of getting the most out of his run up and delivery
as
>>well as preserving the body.

>Ummh, if you have a look at the amount of injuries Lillee had I don't
see how
>you can say he preserved his body.
>As far as smooth goes I'd say of the moderns Holding, Marshall, Akram
and
>Hadlee. None of which had back or knee problems as far as I know.
>But then again Walsh, Ambrose and Garner all looked very good as well

>Overall though for actions I'd be tempted to opt for Lindwall for
smooth and
>Miller for impressive.
>Holding and Hadlee would probably be next.

>Mad Hamish

Lillee was a feirce competitor, unfortunately that was his downfall in
many ways. I saw him trying to extract pace out of featherbeds, where
his counterparts would just give in. Faisalabad test in the late
seventies is an example where Imran Khan started bowling off-spin from
his fifth or sixth over, but not Dennis. His every ball had to be
faster than the previous one.

One more thing to keep in mind, in this age of treating fast bowlers as
valuable commodities, is that Lillee played for captains like Ian and
Greg Chappel who were notorious for bowling their pacers for long
spells.
I hope this would explain Lillee's injuries.

I have seen very little of Lindwall and Miller so I am not really
qualified to comment. I would'nt consider anyone else's action to be
smooth on your list other than Courtney Walsh and maybe Hadlee to some
extent. Intimidating yes, but smooth no.

Rgds

Farooq

 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Bob Dube » Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>As far as smooth goes I'd say of the moderns Holding, Marshall, Akram and
>Hadlee.

Oh! What about Alan Donald? He's bowling from far out on the crease at
the moment, but his action is still lovely to behold...

Bob Dubery
Johannesburg
South Africa

 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Bob Dube » Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>However, what I think we now need to consider is the most comical bowling
>action. I am not talking about unfair actions, and have no wish to
>discuss the legality or otherwise of any bowlers.

I may have mentioned this before, but David Pryke who bowls
occasionally for Natal - and made his debut 2 seasons ago - has an
action so bizarre that an umpire once asked him "are you sure this is
right arm over, Mr Pryke?"
 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Mike Holman » Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
> (Farooq Khan ) writes:

> >>The general consensus is that Dennis Lillee had the smoothest bowling
> >>action. In terms of getting the most out of his run up and delivery
> as
> >>well as preserving the body.

I don't know which generals came to this consensus, but nobody asked me.

Quote:
> >Overall though for actions Hamish Laws would be tempted to opt for
Lindwall for
> smooth and
> >Miller for impressive.
> >Holding and Hadlee would probably be next.

Not having seen Lindwall, I couldn't comment. But the very nickname
'Whispering Death', because no-one could hear him running up, is
testimony to the lightness and elegance of the Holding run-up. I saw more
of Holding than Lillee, and only saw Lillee live towards the end of his
career, and perhaps DKL's preference for wearing the shirt loose and the
hair longish disguised the true elegance of a very fine action (There is
a wonderful sequence on the wall of the Lord's Tavern Club of about 8
large photographs of Lillee delivering one ball at Lord's, starting at
about five yards from the delivery stride, which shows how good he was).
But I go for Holding of those I've seen.

Quote:
> Lillee was a fierce competitor, unfortunately that was his downfall in
> many ways. I saw him trying to extract pace out of featherbeds, where
> his counterparts would just give in.

But the terms of reference of this argument are not about his
competitiveness and strength, but the athletic grace and economy of his
run-up. This comment is entirely irrelevant.

However, what I think we now need to consider is the most comical bowling
action. I am not talking about unfair actions, and have no wish to
discuss the legality or otherwise of any bowlers.

Even though I suspect we have an absolute shoo-in for the winner, now
that everyone's seen the pictures of Paul Adams, I'd like to nominate one
or two others.

Max Walker was even funnier to watch than to listen to on Channel 9, with
those arms waving all over the place. And Vintcent van der Bijl' duck
waddle of a run-up must have helped him a bit (along with his tremendous
ability) to take a few wickets by virtue of mirth.

Happy 1996

Mike

 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Gautham » Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:00:00


= ...
= ...
= Even though I suspect we have an absolute shoo-in for the winner, now
= that everyone's seen the pictures of Paul Adams, I'd like to nominate one
= or two others.

  Agreed...

= Max Walker was even funnier to watch than to listen to on Channel 9, with
= those arms waving all over the place. And Vintcent van der Bijl' duck
= waddle of a run-up must have helped him a bit (along with his tremendous
= ability) to take a few wickets by virtue of mirth.

  I would also like to nominate
  a) Abdul Qadir (or alternate: Gavaskar's imitation of Qadir :o)
  b) Bob Willis (or alternate: Gooch's imitation of Qadir :o)

  What about Bevan's start-stop action...looks very discrete to me :o)

= Happy 1996

  Ditto...

  Ciao,

- gautham -


 
 
 

Best bowling action

Post by Timothy J. Brook » Thu, 04 Jan 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> = ...
> = ...
> = Even though I suspect we have an absolute shoo-in for the winner, now
> = that everyone's seen the pictures of Paul Adams, I'd like to nominate one
> = or two others.

>   Agreed...

> = Max Walker was even funnier to watch than to listen to on Channel 9, with
> = those arms waving all over the place. And Vintcent van der Bijl' duck
> = waddle of a run-up must have helped him a bit (along with his tremendous
> = ability) to take a few wickets by virtue of mirth.

>   I would also like to nominate
>   a) Abdul Qadir (or alternate: Gavaskar's imitation of Qadir :o)
>   b) Bob Willis (or alternate: Gooch's imitation of Qadir :o)

Mike Proctor is in the running, though as an outsider, for bowling off
the wrong foot. I knew a player at college whose name would not be fair
to include whose action involved BOTH arms making exactly the same
whirling arc simultaneously, so he could have been bowling out of either
hand. In fact, if he'd trained himself to be ambidextrous he could have
been a devastating bowler; as it was, he was simply very, very silly, and
once the batsman had got used to this bizarre sight he caned him all over
the field.
Tim>
Quote:
>   What about Bevan's start-stop action...looks very discrete to me :o)

> = Happy 1996

>   Ditto...

>   Ciao,

> - gautham -



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