Brian Lara - a decent batsman etc. etc. etc.

Brian Lara - a decent batsman etc. etc. etc.

Post by Dinesh Katiy » Tue, 31 Oct 1995 04:00:00



Quote:

>I'm getting a little tired of this "if-you-exempt-the-innings-he-played-
>aginst-England" and in the case of Warne those he played against NZ and so
>on . The original poster brought up an interesting point as a matter of
>academic interest ... and that's all that it was.
>You want to see Lara in his true colours? Fine. Take away all the runs he
>made against mediocre bowlers on all the teams he faced - not just England.
>Re Warne ... discount all the no.8, 9, 10 & 11 batsmen's wickets he took.
>Now you'll get a clear picture of how good or bad Lara and Warne really are.
>Cheesh!! I'm beginning to see Venky's point about Viv's stats having
>nothing to do with being able to class him below Bradman.
>If anybody thinks that only England has anything to fear from Brian Lara
>or that only NZ need to worry about Warne they belong in that class of
>people that P.T.Barnum said were born every minute!

>Cheers!
>Charles

>--
>"Send him down a grand piano and see if he can play *that*!"
>                                                         - Yabba

Charles, I think you are oversimplifying the warne thread a little
bit. I guess you haven't been following the thread too closely. Your
conclusion of what the thread is all about is totally off the mark.
Be careful before calling people names without knowing what they are
saying. Let me ask you a simple question. Do you think there is
conclusive evidence that warne is the most consistent bowler of our
times and the best leg spinner after WW2? That is what the thread is
approximately about. Look before you leap.

Regards,
Raja J.

 
 
 

Brian Lara - a decent batsman etc. etc. etc.

Post by Charles Le » Tue, 31 Oct 1995 04:00:00

I'm getting a little tired of this "if-you-exempt-the-innings-he-played-
aginst-England" and in the case of Warne those he played against NZ and so
on . The original poster brought up an interesting point as a matter of
academic interest ... and that's all that it was.
You want to see Lara in his true colours? Fine. Take away all the runs he
made against mediocre bowlers on all the teams he faced - not just England.
Re Warne ... discount all the no.8, 9, 10 & 11 batsmen's wickets he took.
Now you'll get a clear picture of how good or bad Lara and Warne really are.
Cheesh!! I'm beginning to see Venky's point about Viv's stats having
nothing to do with being able to class him below Bradman.
If anybody thinks that only England has anything to fear from Brian Lara
or that only NZ need to worry about Warne they belong in that class of
people that P.T.Barnum said were born every minute!

Cheers!
Charles

--
"Send him down a grand piano and see if he can play *that*!"
                                                     - Yabba

 
 
 

Brian Lara - a decent batsman etc. etc. etc.

Post by Charles Le » Wed, 01 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Quote:



>>I'm getting a little tired of this "if-you-exempt-the-innings-he-played-
>>aginst-England" and in the case of Warne those he played against NZ and so
>>on . The original poster brought up an interesting point as a matter of
>>academic interest ... and that's all that it was.
>>You want to see Lara in his true colours? Fine. Take away all the runs he
>>made against mediocre bowlers on all the teams he faced - not just England.
>>Re Warne ... discount all the no.8, 9, 10 & 11 batsmen's wickets he took.
>>Now you'll get a clear picture of how good or bad Lara and Warne really are.
>>Cheesh!! I'm beginning to see Venky's point about Viv's stats having
>>nothing to do with being able to class him below Bradman.
>>If anybody thinks that only England has anything to fear from Brian Lara
>>or that only NZ need to worry about Warne they belong in that class of
>>people that P.T.Barnum said were born every minute!

>>Cheers!
>>Charles

>>--
>>"Send him down a grand piano and see if he can play *that*!"
>>                                                     - Yabba

> Charles, I think you are oversimplifying the warne thread a little
> bit. I guess you haven't been following the thread too closely. Your
> conclusion of what the thread is all about is totally off the mark.
> Be careful before calling people names without knowing what they are
> saying. Let me ask you a simple question. Do you think there is
> conclusive evidence that warne is the most consistent bowler of our
> times and the best leg spinner after WW2? That is what the thread is
> approximately about. Look before you leap.

> Regards,
> Raja J.

Keep the flames down Raja ... I haven't called anyone any names ... I
don't do that under any provocation. I know what the thread is all right,
and I no where suggested that Warne is the best leggie since WWII. What I
am saying is that Rohan's original thought about Lara's average possible
being inflated by his games against a weak England was only an interesting
academic idea ... just as the idea that Warne's average is made to look
good by his figures vs NZ. IMO, that idea notwitstanding, Lara is among
the premier batsmen and Warne among the premier bowlers on the scene
today, and yes, since WWII. Sorry if you feel by disagreeing with any
position you hold on this ques that I am running you down ... it's just
(to quote another poster on rsc) my .02
Keep cool!
Cheers!
Charles

--
"Send him down a grand piano and see if he can play *that*!"
                                                     - Yabba