Making the Same Mistakes ... Again

Making the Same Mistakes ... Again

Post by arahi » Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:59:56


The Captain has changed, the coach has changed, half the team has
changed but Pakistan continue to repeat the ODI mistakes in Twenty20:
Weak top order. With their strongest batsmen,Younis, Malik, Afridi,
Misbah, being saved for later they are subjecting themselves to
unnecessary pressure situations. Certainly, Younis can come down at
the fall of the first wicket. He is no stranger to that position.
Afridi does not like to open outside the subcontinent but certainly
Malik has carried that mantle before. Pakistan continued their pattern
of last few years of making mediocre bowlers look good with Fernando
bowling a wicket maiden. Is it the first maiden in this tournament
(where real teams have played each other)? I don't know but must be a
rare phenomenon.
 
 
 

Making the Same Mistakes ... Again

Post by angoor.. » Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:51:25


Quote:
> The Captain has changed, the coach has changed, half the team has
> changed but Pakistan continue to repeat the ODI mistakes in Twenty20:
> Weak top order. With their strongest batsmen,Younis, Malik, Afridi,
> Misbah, being saved for later they are subjecting themselves to
> unnecessary pressure situations. Certainly, Younis can come down at
> the fall of the first wicket. He is no stranger to that position.
> Afridi does not like to open outside the subcontinent but certainly
> Malik has carried that mantle before. Pakistan continued their pattern
> of last few years of making mediocre bowlers look good with Fernando
> bowling a wicket maiden. Is it the first maiden in this tournament
> (where real teams have played each other)? I don't know but must be a
> rare phenomenon.

Agreed. Unfortunately the fickle opening situation will stay unchanged
due to todays win.

 
 
 

Making the Same Mistakes ... Again

Post by arahi » Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:18:17


Quote:

> > The Captain has changed, the coach has changed, half the team has
> > changed but Pakistan continue to repeat the ODI mistakes in Twenty20:
> > Weak top order. With their strongest batsmen,Younis, Malik, Afridi,
> > Misbah, being saved for later they are subjecting themselves to
> > unnecessary pressure situations. Certainly, Younis can come down at
> > the fall of the first wicket. He is no stranger to that position.
> > Afridi does not like to open outside the subcontinent but certainly
> > Malik has carried that mantle before. Pakistan continued their pattern
> > of last few years of making mediocre bowlers look good with Fernando
> > bowling a wicket maiden. Is it the first maiden in this tournament
> > (where real teams have played each other)? I don't know but must be a
> > rare phenomenon.

> Agreed. Unfortunately the fickle opening situation will stay unchanged
> due to todays win.

I liked the bowling changes especially holding Gul for last was
interesting. Obviously too much to ask of Hafeez to bowl the second
last over. Things worked today but probably a bowler short. Should
play Abdur rehman at least against BD.

 
 
 

Making the Same Mistakes ... Again

Post by angoor.. » Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:29:29


Quote:


> > > The Captain has changed, the coach has changed, half the team has
> > > changed but Pakistan continue to repeat the ODI mistakes in Twenty20:
> > > Weak top order. With their strongest batsmen,Younis, Malik, Afridi,
> > > Misbah, being saved for later they are subjecting themselves to
> > > unnecessary pressure situations. Certainly, Younis can come down at
> > > the fall of the first wicket. He is no stranger to that position.
> > > Afridi does not like to open outside the subcontinent but certainly
> > > Malik has carried that mantle before. Pakistan continued their pattern
> > > of last few years of making mediocre bowlers look good with Fernando
> > > bowling a wicket maiden. Is it the first maiden in this tournament
> > > (where real teams have played each other)? I don't know but must be a
> > > rare phenomenon.

> > Agreed. Unfortunately the fickle opening situation will stay unchanged
> > due to todays win.

> I liked the bowling changes especially holding Gul for last was
> interesting. Obviously too much to ask of Hafeez to bowl the second
> last over. Things worked today but probably a bowler short. Should
> play Abdur rehman at least against BD.

I would bring back Arafat for Salman B, and ask Hafiz to open with
Nazir. Rahman did seem pretty thrifty the last time I saw him bowl, so
thats not a bad idea either. Saving Gul for the later overs was a
stroke of genius :) He has not been known for using the older ball, I
guess Shoaib does have a of couple tricks up his sleeve. Seems like a
thinking man, quite a change from good old Inzi :)
 
 
 

Making the Same Mistakes ... Again

Post by Take it eas » Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:01:08



Quote:
> The Captain has changed, the coach has changed, half the team has
> changed but Pakistan continue to repeat the ODI mistakes in
> Twenty20: Weak top order. With their strongest batsmen,Younis,
> Malik, Afridi, Misbah, being saved for later they are subjecting
> themselves to unnecessary pressure situations. Certainly, Younis
> can come down at the fall of the first wicket. He is no stranger
> to that position. Afridi does not like to open outside the
> subcontinent but certainly Malik has carried that mantle before.
> Pakistan continued their pattern of last few years of making
> mediocre bowlers look good with Fernando bowling a wicket maiden.
> Is it the first maiden in this tournament (where real teams have
> played each other)? I don't know but must be a rare phenomenon.

IIRC Pathan bowled one against Pak (wicket maiden?).

Takeiteasy.

 
 
 

Making the Same Mistakes ... Again

Post by arahi » Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:40:40


Quote:

> > The Captain has changed, the coach has changed, half the team has
> > changed but Pakistan continue to repeat the ODI mistakes in
> > Twenty20: Weak top order. With their strongest batsmen,Younis,
> > Malik, Afridi, Misbah, being saved for later they are subjecting
> > themselves to unnecessary pressure situations. Certainly, Younis
> > can come down at the fall of the first wicket. He is no stranger
> > to that position. Afridi does not like to open outside the
> > subcontinent but certainly Malik has carried that mantle before.
> > Pakistan continued their pattern of last few years of making
> > mediocre bowlers look good with Fernando bowling a wicket maiden.
> > Is it the first maiden in this tournament (where real teams have
> > played each other)? I don't know but must be a rare phenomenon.

> IIRC Pathan bowled one against Pak (wicket maiden?).

I guess they are not as uncommon. Afridi bowled one to the Australians
today.

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Making the Same Mistakes ... Again

Post by arahi » Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:56:17


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> > > > The Captain has changed, the coach has changed, half the team has
> > > > changed but Pakistan continue to repeat the ODI mistakes in Twenty20:
> > > > Weak top order. With their strongest batsmen,Younis, Malik, Afridi,
> > > > Misbah, being saved for later they are subjecting themselves to
> > > > unnecessary pressure situations. Certainly, Younis can come down at
> > > > the fall of the first wicket. He is no stranger to that position.
> > > > Afridi does not like to open outside the subcontinent but certainly
> > > > Malik has carried that mantle before. Pakistan continued their pattern
> > > > of last few years of making mediocre bowlers look good with Fernando
> > > > bowling a wicket maiden. Is it the first maiden in this tournament
> > > > (where real teams have played each other)? I don't know but must be a
> > > > rare phenomenon.

> > > Agreed. Unfortunately the fickle opening situation will stay unchanged
> > > due to todays win.

> > I liked the bowling changes especially holding Gul for last was
> > interesting. Obviously too much to ask of Hafeez to bowl the second
> > last over. Things worked today but probably a bowler short. Should
> > play Abdur rehman at least against BD.

> I would bring back Arafat for Salman B, and ask Hafiz to open with
> Nazir. Rahman did seem pretty thrifty the last time I saw him bowl, so
> thats not a bad idea either. Saving Gul for the later overs was a
> stroke of genius :) He has not been known for using the older ball, I
> guess Shoaib does have a of couple tricks up his sleeve. Seems like a
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It is amusing that after so many whole sale changes to the team where
there have been no changes is in the top three (well sometimes they
throw in Hameed and Farhat but it's the same guys rotating). Pakistan
living dangerously but a win against Australia is nothing to be
sneezed at (even though they did lose to Zimbabwe. Their game against
SL should pretty much be the decider for them).
There was no sense to leaving out Yousuf. One of ***or Nazir could
have been left out. Younis and Yousuf could have played one and two
down. A few games do not a career (or even a tournament) make but
Sohail Tanveer and Misbah appear to be finds (if you can be found at
33). Bowling has worked well but I still think a bowler short on days
when things do not go your way.

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