Thoughts on Ashes T4D1

Thoughts on Ashes T4D1

Post by Bob Duber » Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:35:07


I didn't see much of Australia's bowling, but I bet they didn't pitch
consistently too short the way that England did. England eventually
realised that pitching it up was a better option in these conditions,
but by then the genie was out of the bottle. If England had bowled a
fuller length from the start the match might be looking a little
different now.

It also struck me that the two team's fortunes seem to be running in
different directions at present. Australia seem to have less injury
worries now than they did two tests back, England have more.

I thought Ponting played very, very well. He did get served up a lot
of short-ish pitched rubbish, it's true, but I'm not sure the
conditions were that good for batting.

Harmison was pants.

 
 
 

Thoughts on Ashes T4D1

Post by Michael Banne » Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:07:18


Quote:
> I didn't see much of Australia's bowling, but I bet they didn't pitch
> consistently too short the way that England did. England eventually
> realised that pitching it up was a better option in these conditions,
> but by then the genie was out of the bottle. If England had bowled a
> fuller length from the start the match might be looking a little
> different now.

Australia looked very focussed in the field and (excluding the first
ball of the match) had things going their way. The bowling was
disciplined (all the bowlers for a change) - it was like watching
Australia playing again after a few tests of watching Australia A show
up.

Stuart Clark really did make a big difference to our attack and set up
the demolition of the tail by Siddle.

Quote:
> It also struck me that the two team's fortunes seem to be running in
> different directions at present. Australia seem to have less injury
> worries now than they did two tests back, England have more.

> I thought Ponting played very, very well. He did get served up a lot
> of short-ish pitched rubbish, it's true, but I'm not sure the
> conditions were that good for batting.

It wasn't bad batting conditions, but there was plenty in it for the
bowlers if they got it right.

I thought Ponting rode his luck a bit.  You may have only watched
highlights, he was often beaten and played quite a few loose shots.
But he came off, and all of a sudden Australia had 50 odd after 6 or 7
overs.

It would have been nice (for Ponting personally that is) to have got a
hundred after being booed to the wicket again.

Quote:
> Harmison was pants.

I think in general bowling consistently short to most of our batsmen
is just not smart. That's ignoring watching how Australia had pitched
it up and found both swing and seam.

Harmison gets steepling bounce and maybe the poms were misled by the
ball which got rid of Katich.

 
 
 

Thoughts on Ashes T4D1

Post by mike » Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:13:07


Quote:

> > I didn't see much of Australia's bowling, but I bet they didn't pitch
> > consistently too short the way that England did. England eventually
> > realised that pitching it up was a better option in these conditions,
> > but by then the genie was out of the bottle. If England had bowled a
> > fuller length from the start the match might be looking a little
> > different now.

you mean if strauss had put australia in? its said that if its cloudy
at headingley you wanna be bowling. today bright and sunny
perfect for batting!

Quote:
> Stuart Clark really did make a big difference to our attack and set up
> the demolition of the tail by Siddle.

quite: i wonder if he might have made a difference at lords and
edgbaston.

Quote:
> It would have been nice (for Ponting personally that is) to have got a
> hundred after being booed to the wicket again.

do you think the booing which was even worse this time, made
him more aggressive or affected adversely?

Quote:
> > Harmison was pants.

it does seem that this test is a foregone conclusion.
the only question seems if oz will win
on sunday by an innings or on Monday. no
rain is in sight to save england. the only water
will be the tears of the supporters.

mike

 
 
 

Thoughts on Ashes T4D1

Post by Michael Banne » Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:36:53


<snip>

Quote:
> > It would have been nice (for Ponting personally that is) to have got a
> > hundred after being booed to the wicket again.

> do you think the booing which was even worse this time, made
> him more aggressive or affected adversely?

I think it would have helped motivate him.

He said after the game words to the effect that he had watched the
English batsmen in the first innings and decided that on that wicket
if you got a good ball it was probably all over. So you had to take
advantage of anything you thought was in your areas.

He is a naturally agressive and confident batsmen. He may have seemed
unusually agressive but I think that is because he was bowled lots of
short stuff.