>> >Which is just what I said 20mins ago. McGrath is the better bowler. What idiot
>> >denied this?
>> Me, sort of. I have been pointing out that over the last 12 months
>> Cairns has an almost identical bowling record in Tests to that of
>> McGrath over the same period. I haven't said that Cairns is a better
>> bowler than McGrath, mostly because I don't think he is, but on
>> current form there isn't that much to choose between them.
>Yes, but I'm talking about their entire careers. So Robbo is obviously spouting a
>load a ***then.
If you want to talk about entire careers, that's your prerogative.
I'm not very keen on using entire careers for this sort of thing,
because they give undue weight to irrelevant performances.
At the beginning of the 1984 season, Botham's career Test bowling
average 1977-84 was 25.59. His average over the previous two years, ie
1982-84, was 36.11.
His average over the whole of the period 1982-92 was 36.45.
Which of the two figures, his career average or his previous-two-years
average, was more typical of the bowler he was in 1984?
In the mid-80s, Gatting averaged around 70 on a two-year basis while
his career average was in the 30s. Which figure was more indicative of
his value to England *at the time*?
For a Kiwi especially to want to use career figures seems very silly.
With the relatively small pool of talent available, your players are
likely to have to start in Test cricket before they are really ready
for it, and they are also likely to have to play on past their natural
sell-by date for lack of any alternatives. In other words, Kiwis get
10-year careers when they'd have only had their best six years if
they'd been Australian or Windian where there's more competition for
places. A substantial proportion of their careers are thus when they
aren't really good enough. No wonder their career figures suck,
although their figures during their productive periods could well
stand comparison with lots of more highly-regarded players.
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