Nice one Ian

Nice one Ian

Post by alve » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 04:27:10


Quote:

> He averages 45+ while Dhoni averages under 40. While I'm not, as you
> know, one for relying heavily on averages, that's a significant
> difference


difference to his overall average of 45+. But not as significant a
difference as the significant difference between that figure of Prior's and


a significant 50.2 v Eng/RSA/RotW. AND BAD'S NOT EVEN OUR #1 KEEPER. Matt
Wade will own Prior. Significantly.      

Quote:

> Prior is now a very fine keeper.

Land of Hope and Glorrry, Mother of the Freeee,
How shall we extol thee, very significantly...

alvey

 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by alve » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 04:35:05

Quote:


>> Prior is probably the best keeper-batsman in England's history and is

> I'd agree although a bit harsh on Stewart who despite his dire record
> in Oz, which was strange since his batting style best suited those
> sort of pitches, arguably faced better bowling attacks.

> Some interesting comments from Steve Waugh today: "I like the look of
> Phil Hughes, he's got something deep within him that makes him a long-
> term Test player", "I think England aren't as good as they think they
> are" and "I think it's about time where we could have one female
> player per Big Bash side. Going forward, I can't see why the girls
> can't have representation in the Big Bash"!

So all his fledges are in place now. A spot in the Nein commsbox must be
***ing close.

alvey

 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by Jellor » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:40:36


Quote:

> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

> >Tipped Australia to lose the Ashes series 12 nil even through they only
> >play 10 Tests ? :-)

> >Actually his big mistake is forgetting about the English weather

> >He also named the Australian side as the worse to ever contest the Ashes
> >which is most probably true even through they haven't named it yet

> >A quick summary ?:

> >England wins the top 3 batting positions by a landside

> >The next 3 are pretty even

> >Keeper batsman would also be pretty even if they pick Paine

> Prior is probably the best keeper-batsman in England's history and is
> obviously the best in the world at present. He's even the #7
> specialist bat in the rankings these days.

> There are two days' worth of light between Prior and any likely
> Australian candidate.

> Cheers,

> Mike
> --

Could not agree more Mike.

 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by Jellor » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:43:01


Quote:

> > Prior is probably the best keeper-batsman in England's history and is

> I'd agree although a bit harsh on Stewart who despite his dire record
> in Oz, which was strange since his batting style best suited those
> sort of pitches, arguably faced better bowling attacks.

> Some interesting comments from Steve Waugh today: "I like the look of
> Phil Hughes, he's got something deep within him that makes him a long-
> term Test player", "I think England aren't as good as they think they
> are" and "I think it's about time where we could have one female
> player per Big Bash side. Going forward, I can't see why the girls
> can't have representation in the Big Bash"!

> Ramapriya

Waugh was a sook as a player when things were not going his way, looks
like nothing has changed in retirement. Give me Mark any day of the
week.

However I do agree with his general comment that England are not as
good as they think. They were ordinary in NZ.

 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by Jellor » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:45:14


Quote:

> > He averages 45+ while Dhoni averages under 40. While I'm not, as you
> > know, one for relying heavily on averages, that's a significant
> > difference


> difference to his overall average of 45+. But not as significant a
> difference as the significant difference between that figure of Prior's and


> a significant 50.2 v Eng/RSA/RotW. AND BAD'S NOT EVEN OUR #1 KEEPER. Matt
> Wade will own Prior. Significantly.

> > Prior is now a very fine keeper.

> Land of Hope and Glorrry, Mother of the Freeee,
> How shall we extol thee, very significantly...

> alvey

What a clown you are.
 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by M.. » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:26:16

All I'm saying is that the woofing gods are wrathful.
 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by Mad Hamis » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:08:09

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:00:45 -0700 (PDT), eusebius

Quote:



>> > On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:44:57 +0000, John Hall


>> > >>Prior is probably the best keeper-batsman in England's history and
>> > >>is obviously the best in the world at present.

>> > >I don't know about "obviously" if you compare him with Dhoni. Prior's
>> > >clearly the better keeper, but - fine batsman though Prior is - Dhoni at
>> > >his best is a genius with the bat. So though overall one might give the
>> > >edge to Prior, I don't think it's obvious.
>> > He averages 45+ while Dhoni averages under 40. While I'm not, as you
>> > know, one for relying heavily on averages, that's a significant
>> > difference given that Dhoni proabably gets in more road batting time
>> > than Prior. I freely concede that Prior could (almost certainly) not
>> > have played the double hundred that Dhoni did against Aus, and that
>> > Dhoni has the field to himself as a limited-over player, but for
>> > selection in the putative World Test XI, it's a no-brainer.

>> What is the world coming to when Mike makes my argument. That Prior is more consistent, that the occasional great / incredible / Mt. Everest reaching knock that single-handedly transforms a game, can't compare with the metronome-like consistency of a bat who does significantly better on average...

>> Mike, I will make a stats-rat out of you yet :) It may be when we are watching the 2037 Lord's 3-day-night Test, but we'll get there,

>> Bharat

>I'm not sure if you can sustainably make the argument that Prior is
>superior to Ames, although I note the 'probably' in Mike's initial
>statement.

If you look at what Ames managed against and in Australian Prior has a
pretty fair case.
--
"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001

Mad Hamish
Hamish Laws

 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by willsutto » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:59:42


Quote:

> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

>> Tipped Australia to lose the Ashes series 12 nil even through they only
>> play 10 Tests   :-)

>> Actually his big mistake is forgetting about the English weather

>> He also named the Australian side as the worse to ever contest the Ashes
>> which is most probably true even through they haven't named it yet

>> A quick summary  :

>> England wins the top 3 batting positions by a landside

>> The next 3 are pretty even

>> Keeper batsman would also be pretty even if they pick Paine

> Prior is probably the best keeper-batsman in England's history and is
> obviously the best in the world at present. He's even the #7
> specialist bat in the rankings these days.

> There are two days' worth of light between Prior and any likely
> Australian candidate.

Paine is a lot better keeper and a very handy bat, not as good as Prior
but as an overall package its a lot closer then you think.

If they select Wade its night and day.

 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by willsutto » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:02:24


Quote:

>> England wins the top 3 batting positions by a landside
>> The next 3 are pretty even

> For 4, 5 and 6, it's 2-1 to England. KP+Bell vs Clarke. Obviously ignoring head-to-heads. Just picking the best 3 of the 6.

I think they will balance out.
The big advantage the English middle  3 will have is the TOP 3
 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by willsutto » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:04:01


Quote:


>> He also named the Australian side as the worse to ever contest the
>> Ashes which is most probably true even through they haven't
>> named it yet

> Unfortunately there's something of a tradition of English cricket
> writers/commentators doing that before almost every tour of England by
> Australia, after which they proceed to beat us. For obvious reasons the
> tradition lapsed in the 1990s, but it certainly happened in 1989.

I think they will be right but beware of the Australian bowling attack.
If they can roll Cook early they will be very dangerous. Sadly they will
have to carry the burden of scoring runs as well   :-)
 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by willsutto » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:08:10


Quote:

>> Unfortunately there's something of a tradition of English cricket
>> writers/commentators doing that before almost every tour of England by
>> Australia, after which they proceed to beat us. For obvious reasons the
>> tradition lapsed in the 1990s, but it certainly happened in 1989.

> The Daily Telegraph cricket book said (before the '89 series) that it could be looked forward to with "guarded pessimism" by England, noting that someone at some point would call this the worst Australian team ever to tour England, which would spur them on.

Allan Border (captain)
Geoff Marsh (vice captain)
Terry Alderman
David Boon
Greg Campbell
Ian Healy
Trevor Hohns
Merv Hughes
Dean Jones
Geoff Lawson
Tim May
Tom Moody
Carl Rackemann
Mark Taylor
Michael Veletta
Steve Waugh
Tim Zoehrer

Without doubt the batting strength of the 89 squad will lap the current
team.

But the pace bowling of the current team will be far superior but the
spin attack loses out badly

 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by willsutto » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:08:53


Quote:
> All I'm saying is that the woofing gods are wrathful.

I cant even see them saving us
 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by D Ramapriy » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:34:47


Quote:

> Waugh was a sook as a player when things were not going his way, looks
> like nothing has changed in retirement.

I beg your pardon?? One's free to hold a view but calling Steve Waugh
a sook is at once utterly risible and preposterous.

Ramapriya

 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by CaraMi » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:14:15


Quote:

>> Waugh was a sook as a player when things were not going his way, looks
>> like nothing has changed in retirement.

> I beg your pardon?? One's free to hold a view but calling Steve Waugh
> a sook is at once utterly risible and preposterous.

Why?
 
 
 

Nice one Ian

Post by D Ramapriy » Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:45:49


Quote:


> >> Waugh was a sook as a player when things were not going his way, looks
> >> like nothing has changed in retirement.

> > I beg your pardon?? One's free to hold a view but calling Steve Waugh
> > a sook is at once utterly risible and preposterous.

> Why?

Why what? Or do you also think it's okay to call one of the most gutsy
and mentally tough cricketers of his generation a sook?

Ramapriya