Top scorer in 4 consecutive innings

Top scorer in 4 consecutive innings

Post by Luke » Tue, 11 Jul 1995 04:00:00


It has struck me that Robin Smith has top-scored in all of England's last
four innings (and all of them complete as well, notwithstanding Stewart's
absence in the last). Does anyone know if this is anywhere near a record?
I imagine the 5 consecutive centuries of whichever W it was (Walcott?) may
push this, but on this basis I can't think that anyone would have improved
too much on this feat.

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Post by Aslam Siddiq » Tue, 11 Jul 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
>It has struck me that Robin Smith has top-scored in all of England's last
>four innings (and all of them complete as well, notwithstanding Stewart's
>absence in the last). Does anyone know if this is anywhere near a record?
>I imagine the 5 consecutive centuries of whichever W it was (Walcott?) may
>push this, but on this basis I can't think that anyone would have improved
>too much on this feat.

 The record as far as I can tell is five consecutive completed Test innings in
which one player was the topscorer - I.V.A.Richards (WI) against Australia and
India in 1975-76. V.S.Hazare (Ind; 1948-49 thru 1951-52 against WI and Eng)
and E.A.B.Rowan (SAf; 1951 against Eng) also have top-scored in five
consecutive Test innings, however in both cases an incomplete innings was
involved in the sequence. G.A.Headley (WI; 1934-35 thru 1939 against Eng) had
a sequence of six, however it was punctuated by a dnb and an incomplete
innings.

 Everton Weekes scored centuries in five consecutive Test innings, however he
was not the top-scorer in all of those innings.

aslam
(I may research this further to create a list)

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Post by Captain Willar » Tue, 11 Jul 1995 04:00:00

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> It has struck me that Robin Smith has top-scored in all of England's last
> four innings (and all of them complete as well, notwithstanding Stewart's
> absence in the last). Does anyone know if this is anywhere near a record?
> I imagine the 5 consecutive centuries of whichever W it was (Walcott?) may
> push this, but on this basis I can't think that anyone would have improved
> too much on this feat.

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If I am not mistaken didn't Wasim Raja have a run of five innings, in
which he was top scorer for Pakistan vs West Indies in the Carribean
in 1977..or was it four. I know he scored a couple of centuries and
some big fifties.
********The Captain********

 
 
 

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Post by Aslam Siddiq » Tue, 11 Jul 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>> It has struck me that Robin Smith has top-scored in all of England's last
>> four innings (and all of them complete as well, notwithstanding Stewart's
>> absence in the last). Does anyone know if this is anywhere near a record?
>> I imagine the 5 consecutive centuries of whichever W it was (Walcott?) may
>> push this, but on this basis I can't think that anyone would have improved
>> too much on this feat.

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>If I am not mistaken didn't Wasim Raja have a run of five innings, in
>which he was top scorer for Pakistan vs West Indies in the Carribean
>in 1977..or was it four. I know he scored a couple of centuries and
>some big fifties.

 It was a run of four. Of the 10 Pakistani innings in that series, Raja
top-scored in five.

aslam

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Post by DaveSaunder » Fri, 14 Jul 1995 04:00:00

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>It has struck me that Robin Smith has top-scored in all of England's last
>four innings (and all of them complete as well, notwithstanding Stewart's
>absence in the last). Does anyone know if this is anywhere near a record?
>I imagine the 5 consecutive centuries of whichever W it was (Walcott?) may
>push this, but on this basis I can't think that anyone would have improved
>too much on this feat.

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It was Everton Weekes who scored five consecutive test centuries, against England in 1947-48 (141 at Kingston), and then against Ind=
ia in 1948-49 (128 at New Dehli, 194 at Bombay, 162 & 101 at Calcutta). In two of these innings, he was not the top scorer. At New D=
ehli, Clyde Walcott scored 152 (this innings included two other century makers: G.E. Gomez scored 101 and R.J. Christiani scored 107=
), and in the second innings at Calcutta, Clyde Walcott scored 108. BTW, in his next test innings, Weekes was run out for 90.

Walcott holds the record for the most centuries in a single series (5 vs. Australia in 1954-55), but they were not consecutive.

Your question about Smith?s performance is interesting. I can?t remember a similar instance of an individual batsman being top score=
r in four consecutive test innings, though I can?t help thinking that Bradman must have achieved that at some point in his career.

Dave Saunders

 
 
 

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Post by DaveSaunder » Fri, 14 Jul 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>It has struck me that Robin Smith has top-scored in all of England's last
>four innings (and all of them complete as well, notwithstanding Stewart's
>absence in the last). Does anyone know if this is anywhere near a record?
>I imagine the 5 consecutive centuries of whichever W it was (Walcott?) may
>push this, but on this basis I can't think that anyone would have improved
>too much on this feat.

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It was Everton Weekes who scored five consecutive test centuries, against England in 1947-48 (141 at Kingston), and then against Ind=
ia in 1948-49 (128 at New Dehli, 194 at Bombay, 162 & 101 at Calcutta). In two of these innings, he was not the top scorer. At New D=
ehli, Clyde Walcott scored 152 (this innings included two other century makers: G.E. Gomez scored 101 and R.J. Christiani scored 107=
), and in the second innings at Calcutta, Clyde Walcott scored 108. BTW, in his next test innings, Weekes was run out for 90.

Walcott holds the record for the most centuries in a single series (5 vs. Australia in 1954-55), but they were not consecutive.

Your question about Smith?s performance is interesting. I can?t remember a similar instance of an individual batsman being top score=
r in four consecutive test innings, though I can?t help thinking that Bradman must have achieved that at some point in his career.

Dave Saunders

 
 
 

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Post by Aslam Siddiq » Sat, 15 Jul 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
>>It has struck me that Robin Smith has top-scored in all of England's last
>>four innings (and all of them complete as well, notwithstanding Stewart's
>>absence in the last). Does anyone know if this is anywhere near a record?
>>I imagine the 5 consecutive centuries of whichever W it was (Walcott?) may
>>push this, but on this basis I can't think that anyone would have improved
>>too much on this feat.
>The record as far as I can tell is five consecutive completed Test innings in
>which one player was the topscorer - I.V.A.Richards (WI) against Australia
>India in 1975-76. V.S.Hazare (Ind; 1948-49 thru 1951-52 against WI and Eng)
>>and E.A.B.Rowan (SAf; 1951 against Eng) also have top-scored in five
>consecutive Test innings, however in both cases an incomplete innings was
>involved in the sequence. G.A.Headley (WI; 1934-35 thru 1939 against Eng) had
>a sequence of six, however it was punctuated by a dnb and an incomplete
>innings.
> Everton Weekes scored centuries in five consecutive Test innings, however he
>was not the top-scorer in all of those innings.

 Upon further review, it turns out that Viv Richards' sequence contained an
innings which was declared close with nine wickets down. Therefore, Smith does
have the record for top-scoring in four consecutive COMPLETED Test innings. He
has company, though. All of the following players have achieved this feat at
one time or another:

J.J.Lyons      (Aus)     v Eng, 51/236 at Melbourne; 41/145 & 134/391 at
                         Sydney; 23/100 at Adelaide - all in 1891-92

V.T.Trumper    (Aus)     v Eng, 185*/485 at Sydney; 74/132 & 35/111 at
                         Melbourne; 113/388 at Adelaide - all in 1903-04

R.M.Cowper     (Aus)     v SAf, 60/173 & 54/278 at Port Elizabeth in 1966-67;
                         v Ind, 92/335 & 108/369 at Adelaide in 1967-68  

Wasim Raja     (Pak)     v WI, 117/435 & 71/291 at Bridgetown; 65/180 & 84/340
                         at Port-of-Spain - all in 1976-77

S.M.Gavaskar   (Ind)     v Pak, 97/465 at Lahore; 111/344 & 137/300 at
                         Karachi; v WI, 205/424 at Bombay - all in 1978-79

D.B.Vengsarkar (Ind)     v WI, 65/164 at Kanpur; 159/464 & 63/233 at Delhi;
                         100/463 at Bombay - all in 1983-84

K.C.Wessels    (Aus)     v WI, 61/271 at Brisbane; 98/284 & 70/173 at
                         Adelaide; 90/296 at Melbourne - all in 1984-85

R.A.Smith      (Eng)     v WI, 61/283 & 90/336 at Lord's; 46/147 & 41/89 at
                         Birmingham - all in 1995

For other countries:
SAf     3     F.Hearne and A.B.Tancred

WI      3     C.L.Walcott, E.deC.Weekes, I.V.A.Richards (three instances) and
              D.L.Haynes

NZ      3     H.G.Vivian

SL      2     L.R.D.Mendis, A.Ranatunga (two instances), P.A.deSilva (two
              instances), S.T.Jayasuriya

Zim     3     A.Flower

Note: Beside Smith's four, the best current unbroken sequence is two by
Inzamam-ul-Haq and A.Flower.

aslam

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Post by Hamish La » Mon, 17 Jul 1995 04:00:00


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>K.C.Wessels    (Aus)     v WI, 61/271 at Brisbane; 98/284 & 70/173 at
>                         Adelaide; 90/296 at Melbourne - all in 1984-85

And about 1 year later he was dropped, having high scored in the first innings
of the previous game with 69.
 
 
 

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Post by Amitabha Lahi » Tue, 18 Jul 1995 04:00:00


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> D.B.Vengsarkar (Ind)     v WI, 65/164 at Kanpur; 159/464 & 63/233 at Delhi;
>                          100/463 at Bombay - all in 1983-84

And this was in the series when a rampant Marshall ran through the Indian
lineup. And to think that some netters would suggest that the Colonel
couldn't play fast bowling!

Amitabha
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Post by Aslam Siddiq » Tue, 18 Jul 1995 04:00:00


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>Subject: Re: Top scorer in 4 consecutive innings

>Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 18:52:24

>>Subject: Re: Top scorer in 4 consecutive innings
>>K.C.Wessels    (Aus)     v WI, 61/271 at Brisbane; 98/284 & 70/173 at
>>                         Adelaide; 90/296 at Melbourne - all in 1984-85
>And about 1 year later he was dropped, having high scored in the first innings
>of the previous game with 69.

 Actually, he 'retired' from Test cricket after a contract dispute with the
ACB. If someone knows more about this 'dispute', please post.

aslam

 
 
 

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Post by Spaceman Spif » Tue, 18 Jul 1995 04:00:00


(Amitabha Lahiri) says:
Quote:

>> D.B.Vengsarkar (Ind)     v WI, 65/164 at Kanpur; 159/464 & 63/233 at Delhi;
>>                          100/463 at Bombay - all in 1983-84

>And this was in the series when a rampant Marshall ran through the Indian
>lineup. And to think that some netters would suggest that the Colonel
>couldn't play fast bowling!

akshooly, the delhi & bombay tests were played on extremely placid pitches.
the kanpur test was played on a pitch was cracked and had more grass than
normal.
vengsarkar did not play in the one test where the pitch was really bad-
ahmedabad. in the delhi and bombay tests, marshall picked up a combined
8 wickets for 292 runs- which compares poorly with his series total of 33
wickets for 621 runs.

Stay cool,
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Post by Amitabha Lahi » Wed, 19 Jul 1995 04:00:00


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> (Amitabha Lahiri) says:

> >> D.B.Vengsarkar (Ind)     v WI, 65/164 at Kanpur; 159/464 & 63/233 at Delhi;
> >>                          100/463 at Bombay - all in 1983-84

> >And this was in the series when a rampant Marshall ran through the Indian
> >lineup. And to think that some netters would suggest that the Colonel
> >couldn't play fast bowling!

> akshooly, the delhi & bombay tests were played on extremely placid pitches.
> the kanpur test was played on a pitch was cracked and had more grass than
> normal.

True.

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> vengsarkar did not play in the one test where the pitch was really bad-
> ahmedabad. in the delhi and bombay tests, marshall picked up a combined
> 8 wickets for 292 runs- which compares poorly with his series total of 33
> wickets for 621 runs.

Which of course brings back the chicken-and-egg debate: Does a bowler have
a good series when the batsmen can't play him, or do the batsmen fail to
play a bowler that's having a good series? :-)

Amitabha
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Post by Uday Raja » Fri, 21 Jul 1995 04:00:00

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>>> D.B.Vengsarkar (Ind)    v WI, 65/164 at Kanpur; 159/464 & 63/233 at Delhi;
>>>                          100/463 at Bombay - all in 1983-84

>>And this was in the series when a rampant Marshall ran through the Indian
>>lineup. And to think that some netters would suggest that the Colonel
>>couldn't play fast bowling!

>    Exactly. And they obviously didnt see his single-handed stand
>against the WI in 1988 either, where he often appeared to be the only
>batsman in a side of square-leg squatters :-) Shouldnt 6 career test
>tons v/s the WI pretty much suffice as an argument against an inability
>to play pace  ?

Well, one does need to account for Vengsarkar's rather mediocre
record in the West Indies, Australia, and Pakistan. He played some 40
odd Tests in these countries over his career, with not a single
century to show for it. And he went through patches during which he
looked distinctly uncomfortable, at least in the WI and in Pakistan
(in the 1982-83 series, Imran got him in 7 out of 10 innings or
something like that, most - all? - of those low scores). So, my theory
is that though he had some weaknesses against pace, he managed to play
above himself in those two series against the WI in India :-).
 
 
 

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Post by Sadiq Yus » Fri, 21 Jul 1995 04:00:00


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>> D.B.Vengsarkar (Ind)     v WI, 65/164 at Kanpur; 159/464 & 63/233 at Delhi;
>>                          100/463 at Bombay - all in 1983-84

>And this was in the series when a rampant Marshall ran through the Indian
>lineup. And to think that some netters would suggest that the Colonel
>couldn't play fast bowling!

        Exactly. And they obviously didnt see his single-handed stand
against the WI in 1988 either, where he often appeared to be the only
batsman in a side of square-leg squatters :-) Shouldnt 6 career test
tons v/s the WI pretty much suffice as an argument against an inability
to play pace  ? ( The questions about Azhar arent quite as easily
answerable, in some part, because he has yet to score a ton against any
WI side in any form of cricket - indeed, he has scored more than 70 only
twice, as far as I know - both in India and one of them in an ODI.
Actually, thinking about that, Hick's record might well be better, in
this regard !)

                Sadiq [ must check the stats on this sometime ] Yusuf

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Post by Sadiq Yus » Sat, 22 Jul 1995 04:00:00



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>>>> D.B.Vengsarkar (Ind)    v WI, 65/164 at Kanpur; 159/464 & 63/233 at Delhi;
>>>>                          100/463 at Bombay - all in 1983-84

>>>And this was in the series when a rampant Marshall ran through the Indian
>>>lineup. And to think that some netters would suggest that the Colonel
>>>couldn't play fast bowling!

>>        Exactly. And they obviously didnt see his single-handed stand
>>against the WI in 1988 either, where he often appeared to be the only
>>batsman in a side of square-leg squatters :-) Shouldnt 6 career test
>>tons v/s the WI pretty much suffice as an argument against an inability
>>to play pace  ?

>Well, one does need to account for Vengsarkar's rather mediocre
>record in the West Indies, Australia, and Pakistan. He played some 40
>odd Tests in these countries over his career, with not a single
>century to show for it. And he went through patches during which he
>looked distinctly uncomfortable, at least in the WI and in Pakistan
>(in the 1982-83 series, Imran got him in 7 out of 10 innings or
>something like that, most - all? - of those low scores). So, my theory
>is that though he had some weaknesses against pace, he managed to play
>above himself in those two series against the WI in India :-).

        Heh :-) It's all relative, though, isnt it ? :-) I mean, he
wasnt neccesarily the best against fast bowling - not a Gavaskar, for
example. But an inability to play pace ? Put it this way - if
Vengsarkar, with 6 tons against the WI, demonstrated an inability to
play pace, what does Azhar demonstrate ? :-)

                Sadiq [ reading up on the Theory of Relativity ] Yusuf

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