Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by **matto* » Mon, 01 Apr 2013 05:55:07


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> Once he started playing internationals and improving (and he improved

> a lot over his first 10 or 15 tests) how many Shield matches did he

> get to play?

Not many and when he did play Shield a lot of the time he was returning from injuries (or suspension).

Talking of Warne bowling in the Shield there's a great clip on YouTube of his duel with Mark Waugh on an SCG turner in 1993/94.

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by **matto* » Mon, 01 Apr 2013 06:03:57

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> 2-4 a year, barring 2003/04 when he was coming back from suspension and

> 1999/00 when he had a very busy international summer.

> I was intrigued by this, so I pulled out his SS stats from CricketArchive

> and broke it down season by season:

>            Mts     Overs  Runs  Wkts   BB         Avg

> 1990/91      1      37.0   102     1   1/41    102.00

> 1991/92      6     223.3   569    12   4/75     47.41

> 1992/93      4     151.3   486    12   5/49     40.50

> 1993/94      4     247.4   643    27   6/42     23.81

> 1994/95      2     117.1   265    13   5/104    20.38

> 1995/96      3     170.1   426    11   5/122    38.72

> 1996/97      2      97.0   201     5   3/25     40.20

> 1997/98      3     141.0   488     8   3/70     61.00

> 1998/99      4     139.1   521     8   2/80     65.12

> 1999/00     DNP

> 2000/01      2      47.5   140     9   5/49     15.55

> 2001/02      2      75.1   253     6   4/118    42.16

> 2002/03      2      67.0   181     6   3/54     30.16

> 2003/04      1      36.0   100     6   4/51     16.66

> 2004/05      4     155.3   403    11   3/50     36.63

> 2005/06      3     133.3   396    16   7/100    24.75

> 2006/07      3     136.3   417    10   5/103    41.70

> Career      46    1975.4  5591   161   7/100    34.72

> Certainly, the early part of SKW's career had some pretty poor numbers,

> and 1993 was an obvious watershed for him. The part I find interesting is

> that his numbers after 1995 are mostly ordinary. In particular, the

> striking part is that they're a bit better than most of the spinners

> going around the SS now, but not massively better, and distinctly poor by

> worldwide standards.

> My guess is that it's a little of everything in the thread: Australia's a

> difficult place to bowl spin (particularly on the average domestic pitch,

> which tends to be seam or batsman friendly, but very rarely spin

> friendly), SKW was a big game player (so playing in front of 200 people

> probably didn't do much for him), and Australian batsmen probably not

> being as overawed by him as some of their international counterparts.

A lot of times Warne was coming back from injuries as well.

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> As an aside, Macgill averaged around 33-34 (I can't be bothered doing a

> full breakdown there, sorry), which backs up that the SS isn't an easy

> place to be a spinner.

357 wickets in 90 matches for NSW at 33.06.

And in 1 game for WA took 0/91.

Greg Matthews took 417 wickets at 28.64 in 135 matches for NSW.

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> Adam, noting that this makes Ashton Agar's 19 wickets at 28.42 this

> season seems pretty damned good all of a sudden.

A lot of promise would like to see play a little bit more first class cricket. We need players smashing the door down for Test selection like Jackson Bird did.

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by Mad Hamis » Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:41:18



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>The batsman Sunny Gavaskar was referring to was: Aussie Peter Burge bowled BS Chandrasekhar for a duck at the Brabourne Stadium, October 1964

Burge was not a noted good player of spin. Gatting had the reputation
of being one and an average of 50 in India suggests it wasn't entirely
unjustified.
(I think he was a good player of finger spin but not as good against
wrist spin)
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Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by Mad Hamis » Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:47:42

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 02:43:27 +0000, Mike Holmans

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>tapped the keyboard and brought forth:




>>>>> > Perhaps he couldn't be arsed to play at his best in FC.
>>>>> As likely as an unpowered helicopter gliding to a safe landing. Have you
>>>>> ever seen SKW be anything except ultra competitive?

>>>> Good point, the ***ing drug cheat ;)

>>>> He took 276 first class wickets for Hampshire with an average of 25.59, so I guess I can't blame him "hiding his best" from English FC players.
>>> May be this explains it. Whenever he got to play English players (who
>>> are ***against spin), he got to boost his average.
>>> I always wonder what so great about the 'ball of the century'. After
>>> all it was only Gatting.

>>Idiot. That ball would've got Stuart Law out.

>And probably Bradman too. In so far as he had a weakness, it was to
>the ball going away, and that was a brute of a ball to receive first
>up.

Dunno, I suspect that Bradman would have made sure that his pads were
covering the stumps.
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"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001

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Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by John Hal » Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:27:58



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>On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 02:43:27 +0000, Mike Holmans

>>And probably Bradman too. In so far as he had a weakness, it was to
>>the ball going away, and that was a brute of a ball to receive first
>>up.

>Dunno, I suspect that Bradman would have made sure that his pads were
>covering the stumps.

Arguably since it pitched outside leg stump then it was a ball coming in
rather than a ball going away. :)
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