Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by tendulkar.co » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:03:41


by about 5 points. Others I checked up whom I had a hunch -- Jacques Kallis is +2. Bradman about +4, Sobers +3, Sehwag +1

Would be interesting to see the descending order of (Test - FC) Differentials.

Brian Lawrence, Aslam or Mohan?

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by John Hal » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:15:34


Quote:

>by about 5 points. Others I checked up whom I had a hunch --
>Jacques Kallis is +2. Bradman about +4, Sobers +3, Sehwag +1

>Would be interesting to see the descending order of (Test - FC) Differentials.

>Brian Lawrence, Aslam or Mohan?

I don't suppose he's top, but Ken Barrington must be high on the list at
+13.
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Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by alve » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:19:46

Quote:

> by about 5 points. Others I checked up whom I had a hunch -- Jacques
> Kallis is +2. Bradman about +4, Sobers +3, Sehwag +1

> Would be interesting to see the descending order of (Test - FC)
> Differentials.

I recall this being done before during the height of The Last Great Aust
Side and the same phenomena noted. Iirc the standout was SKW whose domestic
bowling average is about 36 compared to his Test average of 25.4. Which,
expressed as a percentage, is a shedload.

alvey

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by Nachiket Gokhal » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:59:07

Quote:


> > by about 5 points. Others I checked up whom I had a hunch -- Jacques

> > Kallis is +2. Bradman about +4, Sobers +3, Sehwag +1

> > Would be interesting to see the descending order of (Test - FC)

> > Differentials.

> I recall this being done before during the height of The Last Great Aust

> Side and the same phenomena noted. Iirc the standout was SKW whose domestic

> bowling average is about 36 compared to his Test average of 25.4. Which,

> expressed as a percentage, is a shedload.

That's interesting. I wouldn't have guessed that. Any theories why? Was it pitches or did the Aus FC batsmen work him out?

 -Nachiket

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by Andrew B » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:01:21

Quote:


>  tendulkar.com  writes:

> >by about 5 points. Others I checked up whom I had a hunch --
> >Jacques Kallis is +2. Bradman about +4, Sobers +3, Sehwag +1

> I don't suppose he's top, but Ken Barrington must be high on the list at
> +13.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/626584.html

Paynter is presumably not deemed to have played enough Tests; he had averages of 59 (Test) and 42 (FC).

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by alve » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 07:32:16

Quote:



>>> by about 5 points. Others I checked up whom I had a hunch -- Jacques

>>> Kallis is +2. Bradman about +4, Sobers +3, Sehwag +1

>>> Would be interesting to see the descending order of (Test - FC)

>>> Differentials.

>> I recall this being done before during the height of The Last Great Aust

>> Side and the same phenomena noted. Iirc the standout was SKW whose domestic

>> bowling average is about 36 compared to his Test average of 25.4. Which,

>> expressed as a percentage, is a shedload.

> That's interesting. I wouldn't have guessed that. Any theories why?

Uniquely, not even one theory.

Quote:
> Was it pitches or did the Aus FC batsmen work him out?

Presumably a bit of both, but the full reasons are a mystery to me.

alvey

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by jzfredrick » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:00:55

Quote:

> Presumably a bit of both, but the full reasons are a mystery to me.

Perhaps he couldn't be arsed to play at his best in FC.
 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by **matto* » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:06:12

Quote:

> by about 5 points. Others I checked up whom I had a hunch -- Jacques Kallis is +2. Bradman about +4, Sobers +3, Sehwag +1

> Would be interesting to see the descending order of (Test - FC) Differentials.

> Brian Lawrence, Aslam or Mohan?

Here's some Australian batsman over the years:

Doug Walters 48.26 - 43.84
Michael Clarke - 52.33 - 48.39
Adam Gilchrist 47.60 - 44.16
Greg Matthews - 41.08 - 38.91
Greg Chappell - 53.86 - 52.20
Michael Slater 42.83 - 40.85
Mark Taylor 43.49 - 41.96
Ian Redpath - 43.45 - 41.99
Ross Edwards - 40.37 - 39.27
Kim Hughes 37.41 - 36.52

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by alve » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:55:29

Quote:


>> Presumably a bit of both, but the full reasons are a mystery to me.

> Perhaps he couldn't be arsed to play at his best in FC.

As likely as an unpowered helicopter gliding to a safe landing. Have you
ever seen SKW be anything except ultra competitive?

alvey

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by D Ramapriy » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:10:14


Quote:
> by about 5 points. Others I checked up whom I had a hunch -- Jacques Kallis is +2. Bradman about +4, Sobers +3, Sehwag +1

> Would be interesting to see the descending order of (Test - FC) Differentials.

> Brian Lawrence, Aslam or Mohan?

I think we'll see more of this trend in years to come. Top-flight Test
cricketers, especially in our country, would be tepid towards FC games
to, among other matters, save themselves getting injured. They only
arrive to the party in games such as the Ranji SF and F.

Ramapriya

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by jzfredrick » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:21:23

Quote:

> > Perhaps he couldn't be arsed to play at his best in FC.
> As likely as an unpowered helicopter gliding to a safe landing. Have you
> ever seen SKW be anything except ultra competitive?

Good point, the ***ing drug cheat ;)

He took 276 first class wickets for Hampshire with an average of 25.59, so I guess I can't blame him "hiding his best" from English FC players.

That does mean, though, that his SS stats were even worse. He did play during an era of Aus batting ***.

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by alve » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:25:16

Quote:


>>> Perhaps he couldn't be arsed to play at his best in FC.
>> As likely as an unpowered helicopter gliding to a safe landing. Have you
>> ever seen SKW be anything except ultra competitive?

> Good point, the ***ing drug cheat ;)

> He took 276 first class wickets for Hampshire with an average of 25.59,
> so I guess I can't blame him "hiding his best" from English FC players.

> That does mean, though, that his SS stats were even worse. He did play
> during an era of Aus batting ***.

"...SKW whose domestic bowling average is about 36 compared to his Test
average of 25.4..."

Where "domestic" = SS.

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by RSX » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:09:30


Quote:

> > > Perhaps he couldn't be arsed to play at his best in FC.
> > As likely as an unpowered helicopter gliding to a safe landing. Have you
> > ever seen SKW be anything except ultra competitive?

> Good point, the ***ing drug cheat ;)

> He took 276 first class wickets for Hampshire with an average of 25.59, so I guess I can't blame him "hiding his best" from English FC players.

May be this explains it. Whenever he got to play English players (who
are ***against spin), he got to boost his average.
I always wonder what so great about the 'ball of the century'. After
all it was only Gatting.
Quote:

> That does mean, though, that his SS stats were even worse. He did play during an era of Aus batting ***.

 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by jzfredrick » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:46:12

Quote:

> I always wonder what so great about the 'ball of the century'. After
> all it was only Gatting.

'Twas a very special delivery, in and of itself. The fact that it was his very first Ashes delivery in England was just the cherry.
 
 
 

Matt Prior's Test Average more than FC average

Post by Maxx » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:27:20


Quote:

> > I always wonder what so great about the 'ball of the century'. After
> > all it was only Gatting.

> 'Twas a very special delivery, in and of itself. The fact that it was his very first Ashes delivery in England was just the cherry.

Very first Ashes delivery at all.