One team playing two test matches at the same time

One team playing two test matches at the same time

Post by Tim Kee » Fri, 04 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Recently, while looking at a list of test match grounds
(which gave the dates of the first test played at each
ground), I noticed the following two entries:

  Lancaster Park, Christchurch,  NZ v E,  10Jan1930
  Kensington Oval, Bridgetown,   WI v E,  11Jan1930

I assumed that this was a typo.  How could England be
playing two test matches at the same time?

But, having checked in cricinfo, I see that England
did indeed play two test matches at the same time!  The
same thing happened a few weeks later.

And so I have the following questions:

What circumstances lead to this unusual event?  Indeed,
was it seen as unusual at the time?

Was one England team much stronger than the other?

Has the same thing happened at other times, before or since?

Is there anything to stop it happening again?

Just wondering...

Tim

(Apologies to all if this a classic r.s.c topic.  But I
have been reading r.s.c for a year or so and have not
noticed it before.)

 
 
 

One team playing two test matches at the same time

Post by Prasad Tamma » Sat, 05 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> Tim

> (Apologies to all if this a classic r.s.c topic.  But I

This kind of undue politeness and concern for others is not appreciated
in this forum.  This statement is too considerate to be true in this newsgroup.
I spent a lot of time searching for the non-existent sarcasm in the posting,
before realizing I've been fooled by you.  Please learn to be a bit more insensitive
next time you post something.

Thanks,

Prasad

:-)
For the humour impaired and as a defence against unwarranted flames :-)

 
 
 

One team playing two test matches at the same time

Post by Rick Eyr » Sun, 06 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> Recently, while looking at a list of test match grounds
> (which gave the dates of the first test played at each
> ground), I noticed the following two entries:

>   Lancaster Park, Christchurch,  NZ v E,  10Jan1930
>   Kensington Oval, Bridgetown,   WI v E,  11Jan1930

> I assumed that this was a typo.  How could England be
> playing two test matches at the same time?
> And so I have the following questions:

> What circumstances lead to this unusual event?  Indeed,
> was it seen as unusual at the time?

The MCC decided that winter to send two major touring sides overseas at
once.  From the reading that I have done on the subject I am not clear on
the reasons why - it was, however, the first Test tour to both the West
Indies and New Zealand.  It is the only time this has ever happened.

Quote:
> Was one England team much stronger than the other?

Several of the leading England players of the day chose not to take part in
either tour.  Notable players in the NZ tour (which, incidentally,
commenced with games against each mainland Australian state) included
Duleepsinhji and Frank Woolley.  The WI tour included Patsy Hendren, Andrew
Sandham, Les Ames, George Gunn, Bob Wyatt, Bill Voce and a fifty-year-old
Wilfred Rhodes.

Quote:
> Is there anything to stop it happening again?

I thought there may have been an ICC regulation to cover this, but despite
there being definitions for "first-class" matches and one-day
internationals, I can see no clear guidelines preventing a country from
playing two Test matches simultaneously.  

Commonsense, however, would dictate that no country would want to weaken
their chances of winning by splitting their top international side into
two...

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Quote:

> Just wondering...

> Tim

> (Apologies to all if this a classic r.s.c topic.  But I
> have been reading r.s.c for a year or so and have not
> noticed it before.)


 
 
 

One team playing two test matches at the same time

Post by Aslam Siddiq » Sun, 06 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>> Recently, while looking at a list of test match grounds
>> (which gave the dates of the first test played at each
>> ground), I noticed the following two entries:

>>   Lancaster Park, Christchurch,  NZ v E,  10Jan1930
>>   Kensington Oval, Bridgetown,   WI v E,  11Jan1930

>> I assumed that this was a typo.  How could England be
>> playing two test matches at the same time?
> It is the only time this has ever happened.
>|  Rick Eyre                                

 It's not your day, Rick! England played Test matches in Australia and South
Africa almost simultaneously (in late March, but not on same dates) during the
1891-92 season.

 These were the only two occasions when one country played two Test matches in
two different countries at the same time.

aslam