Ireland couldn't do an Ireland today

Ireland couldn't do an Ireland today

Post by sdavmo » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 07:31:08


Tried hard but were clearly weakened by the loss of skipper Trent
Johnson (shoulder). They needed another 40 runs to have a chance
of defending against Windies, who made it look pretty easy chasing
down 184. A very nice ton by Chanderpaul sealed the deal.

Ireland 183/9 (48 overs. Bray 41, Botha 28, McCallan 20*)
Windies 190/2 (38.1 overs. Chanderpaul 102*, Sarwan 36, Samuels 27*)

That score is correct. Because of rain, D/L adjusted the requirement
to 190 for Windies to win. Somebody needs to explain to me how that
one came about.

Cricinfo scorecard:
<http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/engine/current/match/247477.html>
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Ireland couldn't do an Ireland today

Post by James Farra » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 07:57:05



Quote:
>Ireland 183/9 (48 overs. Bray 41, Botha 28, McCallan 20*)
>Windies 190/2 (38.1 overs. Chanderpaul 102*, Sarwan 36, Samuels 27*)

>That score is correct. Because of rain, D/L adjusted the requirement
>to 190 for Windies to win. Somebody needs to explain to me how that
>one came about.

Because the first innings was interrupted and shortened by rain, the
team which batted first was prevented from having knowledge of the
true length of its innings from the start of the said innings.

The theory is, if you know from the start that you're only going to
have <x> overs, you'll try to score quicker from the start than if you
think you have 50. Because <x> in this case was 48, the upwards
adjustment was small.

 
 
 

Ireland couldn't do an Ireland today

Post by sdavmo » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 07:58:16

Quote:



>> Ireland 183/9 (48 overs. Bray 41, Botha 28, McCallan 20*)
>> Windies 190/2 (38.1 overs. Chanderpaul 102*, Sarwan 36, Samuels 27*)

>> That score is correct. Because of rain, D/L adjusted the requirement
>> to 190 for Windies to win. Somebody needs to explain to me how that
>> one came about.

> Because the first innings was interrupted and shortened by rain, the
> team which batted first was prevented from having knowledge of the
> true length of its innings from the start of the said innings.

> The theory is, if you know from the start that you're only going to
> have <x> overs, you'll try to score quicker from the start than if you
> think you have 50. Because <x> in this case was 48, the upwards
> adjustment was small.

Thanks.  Crystal clear now.
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Ireland couldn't do an Ireland today

Post by max. » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:38:53



-
->Ireland 183/9 (48 overs. Bray 41, Botha 28, McCallan 20*)
->Windies 190/2 (38.1 overs. Chanderpaul 102*, Sarwan 36, Samuels 27*)
->
->That score is correct. Because of rain, D/L adjusted the requirement
->to 190 for Windies to win. Somebody needs to explain to me how that
->one came about.
-
-Because the first innings was interrupted and shortened by rain, the
-team which batted first was prevented from having knowledge of the
-true length of its innings from the start of the said innings.
-
-The theory is, if you know from the start that you're only going to
-have <x> overs, you'll try to score quicker from the start than if
you
-think you have 50. Because <x> in this case was 48, the upwards
-adjustment was small.

What's the par score for the match on that pitch ?
How is the par score worked out ?

I don't get to umpire any premier matches,
but I do get senior 1 and 2.
I have done the umpires DL training about three times so far, but it
isn't used in the matches that I umpire.
If I was to land at a premier league venue and the home team has
problems with their IT setup, I am obliged to award the match to the
visitors......even if it doesn't rain. Glad I'm only getting senior
matches.
How do you tell some team they lost because the printer is broken?

max.it

 
 
 

Ireland couldn't do an Ireland today

Post by arahi » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:03:54


Quote:
> Tried hard but were clearly weakened by the loss of skipper Trent
> Johnson (shoulder). They needed another 40 runs to have a chance
> of defending against Windies, who made it look pretty easy chasing
> down 184. A very nice ton by Chanderpaul sealed the deal.

> Ireland 183/9 (48 overs. Bray 41, Botha 28, McCallan 20*)
> Windies 190/2 (38.1 overs. Chanderpaul 102*, Sarwan 36, Samuels 27*)

> That score is correct. Because of rain, D/L adjusted the requirement
> to 190 for Windies to win. Somebody needs to explain to me how that
> one came about.

> Cricinfo scorecard:
> <http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/engine/current/match/247477.html>
> --

Here is an extreme example. Consider a match got started team batting
first set off at a normal pace and acheived 90 runs in twenty overs
for the loss of one wicket. Then it started to rain and when the match
restarted the game was reduced to twenty overs each. So now the second
team came out to bat. A target of 90 would be relatively easy for them
since they know they have ten wickets and twenty overs to do it. So
there score is increased to make it "equivalently" hard.
Quote:
> Cheers,
> SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
> Systems Theory internet music project links:
> official site <www.systemstheory.net>
> soundclick <www.soundclick.com/systemstheory>
> garageband <www.garageband.com/artist/systemstheory>
> "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004
> "Codetalkers" CD coming very soon
> NP: nothing

 
 
 

Ireland couldn't do an Ireland today

Post by arahi » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:35:06


Quote:
> Tried hard but were clearly weakened by the loss of skipper Trent
> Johnson (shoulder). They needed another 40 runs to have a chance
> of defending against Windies, who made it look pretty easy chasing
> down 184. A very nice ton by Chanderpaul sealed the deal.

> Ireland 183/9 (48 overs. Bray 41, Botha 28, McCallan 20*)
> Windies 190/2 (38.1 overs. Chanderpaul 102*, Sarwan 36, Samuels 27*)

> That score is correct. Because of rain, D/L adjusted the requirement
> to 190 for Windies to win. Somebody needs to explain to me how that
> one came about.

> Cricinfo scorecard:
> <http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/engine/current/match/247477.html>
> --

See example three
http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ABOUT_CRICKET/RAIN_RULES/DUC...

but use the table from here
http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/rules/wc07_playing_conditions.pdf

The result may be a little different from what you see in the actual
matches because here is a standard table. The ICC uses a calculater
software with a professional table which is a little different. The
Standard table is used if for any reason the calculator is not
available.

Quote:
> Cheers,
> SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
> Systems Theory internet music project links:
> official site <www.systemstheory.net>
> soundclick <www.soundclick.com/systemstheory>
> garageband <www.garageband.com/artist/systemstheory>
> "Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004
> "Codetalkers" CD coming very soon
> NP: nothing

 
 
 

Ireland couldn't do an Ireland today

Post by Mister » Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:04:01


Quote:


>>Ireland 183/9 (48 overs. Bray 41, Botha 28, McCallan 20*)
>>Windies 190/2 (38.1 overs. Chanderpaul 102*, Sarwan 36, Samuels 27*)

>>That score is correct. Because of rain, D/L adjusted the requirement
>>to 190 for Windies to win. Somebody needs to explain to me how that
>>one came about.

> Because the first innings was interrupted and shortened by rain, the
> team which batted first was prevented from having knowledge of the
> true length of its innings from the start of the said innings.

> The theory is, if you know from the start that you're only going to
> have <x> overs, you'll try to score quicker from the start than if you
> think you have 50. Because <x> in this case was 48, the upwards
> adjustment was small.

Its just another way it can be abused. Seriosuly if you know rain is coming
why bat first or loose wickets? Wickets are werth so much in D/L that you
could cruise at 4 an over and end up having your total pushed upto 300.