Eye-to eye,sledging etc

Eye-to eye,sledging etc

Post by Harish Chandramou » Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:00:00


Shantanu,

Whilst I agree with the spirit of your post and think that the
Indians do need to be a *heck* of a lot more aggressive against
teams like Pakistan than they are at present, I also think
you're making a mountain out of a molehill here.

Lets not forget it was *Akhtar* who sledged Dravid (and of course,
got away scot free for his efforts: whereas Prasad managed to get
himself fined for his actions from 2 days back) and Afridi who
started off verbal proceedings against Jadeja. So where does the
question of censuring our boys even arise? If anything, we need
be proud of them for the attitude they displayed out there today.

Especially the captain, who led from the front in more respects
than one.

Who feels a little better after today's result,

Harish
--
World XI: 1. Jadeja 2. Kirsten 3. Blewett 4. Hooper 5. Azhar (c)
6. Bevan 7. Moin (wk) 8. Akram 9. M. Ahmed 10. Donald 11. Prasad

 
 
 

Eye-to eye,sledging etc

Post by Dirty_Harr » Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Harish was this list of World XI compiled to receive hate mail ...?


Quote:
>Shantanu,

>Whilst I agree with the spirit of your post and think that the
>Indians do need to be a *heck* of a lot more aggressive against
>teams like Pakistan than they are at present, I also think
>you're making a mountain out of a molehill here.

>Lets not forget it was *Akhtar* who sledged Dravid (and of course,
>got away scot free for his efforts: whereas Prasad managed to get
>himself fined for his actions from 2 days back) and Afridi who
>started off verbal proceedings against Jadeja. So where does the
>question of censuring our boys even arise? If anything, we need
>be proud of them for the attitude they displayed out there today.

>Especially the captain, who led from the front in more respects
>than one.

>Who feels a little better after today's result,

>Harish
>--
>World XI: 1. Jadeja 2. Kirsten 3. Blewett 4. Hooper 5. Azhar (c)
>6. Bevan 7. Moin (wk) 8. Akram 9. M. Ahmed 10. Donald 11. Prasad


 
 
 

Eye-to eye,sledging etc

Post by ramj » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>I was reading Prem Panicker's report of today's match and I
>was glad that for once India showed some aggression and a***for
>tat for the sledging that Pakistani players indulge in.(note ,
>I am not saying sledging is incorrect,Australia & RSA do it all
>the time)But today for once Dravid and Jadeja kind of replied
>back.This is something which I have been saying a lot that unless
>our body language is aggresive our performance especially against
>Pakistan (and also against other teams which indulge in sledging)
>will be bad.In other words,you need diamonds to cut diamonds.
> I have said this before.I hope Azhar was watching this match and
>learned something about how Dravid and Jadeja behaved on the field.
>wheras compare that to what he did during the test series.

I think sledging itself does not win matches, (I am not saying you implied
that), but it could be a manifestation of the attitude that is inside.
Frankly, Jadeja's captaincy in the few matches he has been in recently have
been quite inspiring. But of course, soon enough, a meek, docile, wimpy
captain would be back, and the confidence would go to the dumps again.

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Eye-to eye,sledging etc

Post by ravi_kris.. » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> [Indian cricket history would have been so different if Sidhu was captain]

Oh yeah. If Sidhu was the captain, many batsmen would have been in a
'***ous' mood quite literally. :-)

RK- [ who is amused at this idiotic post glorifying sledging ]

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Eye-to eye,sledging etc

Post by Karthik Aghor » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Eye-to-eye and lip-for-lip aggression is cheap.  Real aggression is that
which manifests when bat hits ball, or ball hits wicket.  We don't have to
roll over, but we don't have to talk either.  If Akhtar sledges, shut up
(maybe even smile ruefully) and dispatch the next half-loose ball to the
fence.  If Aamir sledges, clean bowl him the next ball!  That'll ruin his
psyche more than verbal or optical aggression.

If Azhar jokes with the fielders when he gets sledged, so be it.  As long
as he bats aggressively and sensibly, I don't care if he kisses the bowler
after each hit to the fence.  The more kisses, the better then.

I just wonder .... does Sachin sledge? I've never heard that he does.  

Cheers
Ragamuffin [who believes sledging is for lesser men.  Real ones let their
            skills talk.]

 
 
 

Eye-to eye,sledging etc

Post by Harish Chandramou » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>If Azhar jokes with the fielders when he gets sledged, so be it.  As long
>as he bats aggressively and sensibly, I don't care if he kisses the bowler
>after each hit to the fence.  The more kisses, the better then.

Thats just the problem. He doesn't. Of all the Indians on the field
during the last Pakistani series, he was about the only one who
spent half his time fraternizing with the opposition players (when
play was going on, mind you) *and* came out looking like a complete
weed with the willow. If he were to perform, who gives a damn as to
how he conducts himself...its only because he doesn't perform and
acts in the manner he does, that the whole issue arises.

Quote:
>I just wonder .... does Sachin sledge? I've never heard that he does.  

By his own confession, he _has_, in the past. Apparently against our
very own Atul Wassan, in a fc game :) And one of my favourite
moments: watching him give Saqlain the royal finger, after India
finally beat Pakistan at Sharjah (after a long, long time) a few
years ago. But on the whole, yeah, I'd have to say that he lets the
bat speak for him, and as you say, that *is* the best way to go
about things.

Of course if you're Ajay Jadeja and you don't quite have the same
ability, it doesn't hurt to hand it back in other forms, either.

Cheers,

Harish [shocked that even Dravid stood up for himself, for a change]
--
World XI: 1. Jadeja 2. Kirsten 3. Blewett 4. Hooper 5. Azhar (c)
6. Bevan 7. Moin (wk) 8. Akram 9. M. Ahmed 10. Donald 11. Prasad

 
 
 

Eye-to eye,sledging etc

Post by Execof » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Why don't the Indians react the way Pete Rose or ROdman would likely do, if
they find an opposing team member getting in their way. Take them out, they
even have a nice bat in their hands. Shoaib would have a hard time bowling with
his nuts in pain.