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Post by vignes1.. » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:46:28


Some knee problem?

Unlikely to bowl in this innings, says Benaud....  adds, "one strike
bowler short".

That would make Ponting's decision a bit easier.

Vicky:
[Hodge looks a bit tentative]

 
 
 

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Post by Jamm » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:47:28


Quote:
> Some knee problem?

> Unlikely to bowl in this innings, says Benaud....  adds, "one strike
> bowler short".

> That would make Ponting's decision a bit easier.

What decision?

 
 
 

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Post by vignes1.. » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:59:03

Oh...  I thought scoring would be easier for Australians...  even Nel's
nose is bleeding now.  Thirty minutes before tea with 375 on board
looks very likely now.

Vicky:
[yeah...  but, this is cricket]

 
 
 

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Post by dechuck » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:57:16


Quote:
> Some knee problem?

medial ligiment, probably won't be playing in Sydney
Quote:

> Unlikely to bowl in this innings, says Benaud....  adds, "one strike
> bowler short".

> That would make Ponting's decision a bit easier.

> Vicky:
> [Hodge looks a bit tentative]

 
 
 

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Post by dechuck » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:58:32


Quote:



>> Some knee problem?

>> Unlikely to bowl in this innings, says Benaud....  adds, "one strike
>> bowler short".

>> That would make Ponting's decision a bit easier.

> What decision?

I think he meant that with Ntini injured Aus should be able to score faster
and make Pontings declaration decision easier
 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:03:13


Quote:



> > Some knee problem?

> medial ligiment, probably won't be playing in Sydney

Not to worry: South Africa has already (yesterday) called up alleged spin
bowler Johan Botha.

<snip>

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by Jamm » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:03:32


Quote:
> Oh...  I thought scoring would be easier for Australians...  even Nel's
> nose is bleeding now.  Thirty minutes before tea with 375 on board
> looks very likely now.

> Vicky:
> [yeah...  but, this is cricket]

Oh yeah, i don't see that as a decision, just a by product
 
 
 

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Post by Abhiji » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:18:21

Quote:

> Some knee problem?

> Unlikely to bowl in this innings, says Benaud....  adds, "one strike
> bowler short".

> That would make Ponting's decision a bit easier.

I think that makes it harder becuase of less chance of being all-out
for a paltry score. That is the best scenario for Ponting so he doesn't
have to make decision at all.
 
 
 

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Post by Abhiji » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:20:15

Quote:





> > > Some knee problem?

> > medial ligiment, probably won't be playing in Sydney

> Not to worry: South Africa has already (yesterday) called up alleged spin
> bowler Johan Botha.

But that was to put pressure on Boje to do someting special in Aus I2.
He hasn't delivered yet though. Let's see.
 
 
 

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Post by dechuck » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:59:34


Quote:


>> Some knee problem?

>> Unlikely to bowl in this innings, says Benaud....  adds, "one strike
>> bowler short".

>> That would make Ponting's decision a bit easier.

> I think that makes it harder becuase of less chance of being all-out
> for a paltry score. That is the best scenario for Ponting so he doesn't
> have to make decision at all.

Whatever his decision it will be selfish won;'t it?
 
 
 

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Post by Abhiji » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:04:48

Quote:



> > I think that makes it harder becuase of less chance of being all-out
> > for a paltry score. That is the best scenario for Ponting so he doesn't
> > have to make decision at all.

> Whatever his decision it will be selfish won;'t it?

Selfish? No. Poor? Maybe.
 
 
 

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Post by dechuck » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:09:55


Quote:




>> > I think that makes it harder becuase of less chance of being all-out
>> > for a paltry score. That is the best scenario for Ponting so he doesn't
>> > have to make decision at all.

>> Whatever his decision it will be selfish won;'t it?

> Selfish? No. Poor? Maybe.

Well may be poor but Ponting does not seem to be a selfish Captain. He made
the correct decision to bat 1st in this test looking at how the pitch is
playing and with the team he has
 
 
 

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Post by Abhiji » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:15:33

Quote:






> >> > I think that makes it harder becuase of less chance of being all-out
> >> > for a paltry score. That is the best scenario for Ponting so he doesn't
> >> > have to make decision at all.

> >> Whatever his decision it will be selfish won;'t it?

> > Selfish? No. Poor? Maybe.

> Well may be poor but Ponting does not seem to be a selfish Captain. He made
> the correct decision to bat 1st in this test looking at how the pitch is
> playing and with the team he has

Can't get you there. You seem to be presenting logic that Ponting's
decision is not poor while insisting he is not selfish. When the hell
did I or anyone in this thread said he (or his decision) is selfish?
 
 
 

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Post by dechuck » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:32:22


Quote:







>> >> > I think that makes it harder becuase of less chance of being all-out
>> >> > for a paltry score. That is the best scenario for Ponting so he
>> >> > doesn't
>> >> > have to make decision at all.

>> >> Whatever his decision it will be selfish won;'t it?

>> > Selfish? No. Poor? Maybe.

>> Well may be poor but Ponting does not seem to be a selfish Captain. He
>> made
>> the correct decision to bat 1st in this test looking at how the pitch is
>> playing and with the team he has

> Can't get you there. You seem to be presenting logic that Ponting's
> decision is not poor while insisting he is not selfish. When the hell
> did I or anyone in this thread said he (or his decision) is selfish?

not in this thread but you suggested in another thread that  :

" He decided to bat first when (barring late efforts of Hussey) he was
the only batsman to have appeared confident facing the SA attack on D1.
(That he was dropped at 17 is another matter. Had Nel held onto the
sitter, it could have been a collapse Aussies haven't seen for a
while.) Hayden was scratchy, others didn't long last. This makes me
think if Ponting is taking the confidence of the team into
consideration while making such decisions, or he just wants to prove to
SA that Aussies can bat in such conditions backed only by his own guts.
Or is he too afraid to face Boje in I4? Or he wants to use his own
strong spin squad on I4 (and maybe give Symonds a last opportunity to
prove his bowling worth)?" under a subject line of "
Ponting makes decisions for himself or for the team? "

Pontings decision to bat first was the only logical decision to make

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Post by Abhiji » Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:38:02

Quote:



> > Can't get you there. You seem to be presenting logic that Ponting's
> > decision is not poor while insisting he is not selfish. When the hell
> > did I or anyone in this thread said he (or his decision) is selfish?

> not in this thread but you suggested in another thread that  :

> " He decided to bat first when (barring late efforts of Hussey) he was
> the only batsman to have appeared confident facing the SA attack on D1.
> (That he was dropped at 17 is another matter. Had Nel held onto the
> sitter, it could have been a collapse Aussies haven't seen for a
> while.) Hayden was scratchy, others didn't long last. This makes me
> think if Ponting is taking the confidence of the team into
> consideration while making such decisions, or he just wants to prove to
> SA that Aussies can bat in such conditions backed only by his own guts.
> Or is he too afraid to face Boje in I4? Or he wants to use his own
> strong spin squad on I4 (and maybe give Symonds a last opportunity to
> prove his bowling worth)?" under a subject line of "
> Ponting makes decisions for himself or for the team? "

> Pontings decision to bat first was the only logical decision to make

But I never accused him of being selfish..