Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Post by Telne » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 05:38:03


http://SportToday.org/

Harbhajan's *** came because of provocation
David Hopps

Equally culpable in this is the international umpiring fraternity

In punishing Harbhajan cricket is punishing a victim
Australia have been obsessed with "reverse racism"

LONDON: If Harbhajan Singh is banned for three Tests because he called
Andrew Symonds "a monkey" then that is how it must be. In sport, as in life,
racism must be challenged at every opportunity.

Admittedly, "monkey" would not qualify in the top hundred racist insults.
Ian Botham used to revel in the nickname "Guy the Gorilla." When all is said
and done, we are all simian primates. But the word "monkey" had form, as
everybody knew that Symonds had supposedly suffered such insults last year
from Indian crowds. So case proven, the Indian spinner was guilty as
charged.
The Indian board should stop its posturing, accept what must be a galling
reminder that it is the International Cricket Council that still runs the
game, and get on with the tour.

Punishing a victim

Do not delude yourself, though, that in punishing Harbhajan cricket is
punishing a sinner. It is punishing a victim. It is punishing a player who,
it might be concluded, mentally disintegrated. Remember mental
disintegration? It is Australia's nauseatingly self-congratulatory phrase
for sledging. And it worked. It worked so well that Harbhajan cracked and
Australia have not stopped bleating about their shoddy little victory ever
since.

Australia complain that Harbhajan crossed the line. On one side of the line
supposedly are the supremely talented, peerless, combative Australians who,
in the words of their fast bowler, Brett Lee, pride themselves in playing
"tough competitive cricket, fairly and squarely."

On the other side of the line is an Indian spinner, known by the Australians
to have a volatile temperament, who temporarily lost it. He lost his temper,
lost his reputation, lost the match.

The problem is that Australia's dividing line is not a reliable division
between the morally upstanding and the indefensible.
Australia's dividing line is repugnant, enabling the condemnation of the
likes of Harbhajan whilst legitimising obnoxious behaviour that cricket
should have had the bravery to root out a generation ago.

Racism cannot be countenanced. But it is a rum old world that bans a man for
three Tests for calling someone a monkey, yet allows the sort of boorish
behaviour that allows first slip to drone to a batsman or that convinces any
fast bowler with half a brain that personal insults every time a batsman
plays and misses are essential for any cricketer of spirit.

As long as you are careful not to refer to the colour of his skin.

It needs to be remembered that Harbhajan's *** did not come without
provocation. Before he was abused as a monkey, Symonds had been indulging in
a phrase or two out of the corner of his mouth. Australia and Harbhajan have
been at each other for years.
But Australia have been obsessed with "reverse racism" ever since Darren
Lehmann, their batsman, became the first international player to be banned
for the racial abuse of Sri Lankan players five years ago. They have been
intent upon revenge and now they have gained it.

What is deeply instructive in all this is Australia's wisest cricket writers
have saved the bulk of their condemnation not for Harbhajan but for
Australia. At the moment they matched their own record of 16 successive Test
victories, it is clear that once again they have won little affection.


"Opponents, most not as naturally confrontational, seek to match Australia,
but clumsily. Perversely, this gives the Australians the high m***ground."

Peter Roebuck, in the Sydney Morning Herald, was incensed enough to call for
Australia's captain, Ricky Ponting, to be sacked, accusing his side of "the
ugliest performance an Australian side has put up for 20 years."

To punish Harbhajan for his overreaction, he suggested, would impress only
"barrack-room lawyers." Peter English may one day be regarded as their
equal.

His response to a fractious final day on CricInfo was to reflect upon the
Australians' supposed loyalty towards the Spirit of Cricket, a document
drawn up by their former captain, Steve Waugh, which seeks to encapsulate
their "hard but fair" approach to the game.
"They are shocked whenever their outlook is challenged," remarked English.
"After emotional days like this it is hard to sympathise with their
complaints."

Culpable

Equally culpable in this is the international umpiring fraternity. For too
long at Test level, they have done little to quell personal abuse, pleading
only that the stump mikes are turned down so that the public does not know
the full story.

The umpires in Sydney, Mark Benson and Steve Bucknor, would have ignored
Harbhajan's outburst, too, had not Ponting laid an official complaint.

The difference between personal abuse and a racist outburst is often smaller
than many suppose. For too long, in abdicating their responsibility, umpires
have played with fire.

Now cricket is burning with resentment. ? Guardian Newspapers Limited, 2008

 
 
 

Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Post by T I D » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:48:47

Roebuck always was a shallow twunt.

--
http://SportToday.org/


Quote:
> Telnet wrote in rec.sport.cricket:

>> http://SportToday.org/

>> Harbhajan's *** came because of provocation
>> David Hopps

>> Equally culpable in this is the international umpiring fraternity

>> In punishing Harbhajan cricket is punishing a victim
>> Australia have been obsessed with "reverse racism"

>> LONDON: If Harbhajan Singh is banned for three Tests because he called
>> Andrew Symonds "a monkey" then that is how it must be. In sport, as in
>> life, racism must be challenged at every opportunity.

>> Admittedly, "monkey" would not qualify in the top hundred racist
>> insults. Ian Botham used to revel in the nickname "Guy the Gorilla."
>> When all is said and done, we are all simian primates. But the word
>> "monkey" had form, as everybody knew that Symonds had supposedly
>> suffered such insults last year from Indian crowds. So case proven,
>> the Indian spinner was guilty as charged.
>> The Indian board should stop its posturing, accept what must be a
>> galling reminder that it is the International Cricket Council that
>> still runs the game, and get on with the tour.

>> Punishing a victim

>> Do not delude yourself, though, that in punishing Harbhajan cricket is
>> punishing a sinner. It is punishing a victim. It is punishing a player
>> who, it might be concluded, mentally disintegrated. Remember mental
>> disintegration? It is Australia's nauseatingly self-congratulatory
>> phrase for sledging. And it worked. It worked so well that Harbhajan
>> cracked and Australia have not stopped bleating about their shoddy
>> little victory ever since.

>> Australia complain that Harbhajan crossed the line. On one side of the
>> line supposedly are the supremely talented, peerless, combative
>> Australians who, in the words of their fast bowler, Brett Lee, pride
>> themselves in playing "tough competitive cricket, fairly and
>> squarely."

>> On the other side of the line is an Indian spinner, known by the
>> Australians to have a volatile temperament, who temporarily lost it.
>> He lost his temper, lost his reputation, lost the match.

>> The problem is that Australia's dividing line is not a reliable
>> division between the morally upstanding and the indefensible.
>> Australia's dividing line is repugnant, enabling the condemnation of
>> the likes of Harbhajan whilst legitimising obnoxious behaviour that
>> cricket should have had the bravery to root out a generation ago.

>> Racism cannot be countenanced. But it is a rum old world that bans a
>> man for three Tests for calling someone a monkey, yet allows the sort
>> of boorish behaviour that allows first slip to drone to a batsman or
>> that convinces any fast bowler with half a brain that personal insults
>> every time a batsman plays and misses are essential for any cricketer
>> of spirit.

>> As long as you are careful not to refer to the colour of his skin.

>> It needs to be remembered that Harbhajan's *** did not come
>> without provocation. Before he was abused as a monkey, Symonds had
>> been indulging in a phrase or two out of the corner of his mouth.
>> Australia and Harbhajan have been at each other for years.
>> But Australia have been obsessed with "reverse racism" ever since
>> Darren Lehmann, their batsman, became the first international player
>> to be banned for the racial abuse of Sri Lankan players five years
>> ago. They have been intent upon revenge and now they have gained it.

>> What is deeply instructive in all this is Australia's wisest cricket
>> writers have saved the bulk of their condemnation not for Harbhajan
>> but for Australia. At the moment they matched their own record of 16
>> successive Test victories, it is clear that once again they have won
>> little affection.


>> "Opponents, most not as naturally confrontational, seek to match
>> Australia, but clumsily. Perversely, this gives the Australians the
>> high m***ground."

> Baum is one who has at least made an effort to keep himself under
> control. He deserves credit. He must be under enourmous pressure from his
> employers to trash the Australian team mercilessly, there is a lot of
> revenue to be gained from the website after all.

>> Peter Roebuck, in the Sydney Morning Herald, was incensed enough to
>> call for Australia's captain, Ricky Ponting, to be sacked, accusing
>> his side of "the ugliest performance an Australian side has put up for
>> 20 years."

> Peter Roebuck is employed by Fairfax, which makes its money out of
> advertising revenue from its newspapers and websites. The websites have
> more Indian readers than Australian readers when Australia is playing
> India, hence Peter Roebuck's shoddy attempt to attack Ponting and the
> team. read the comments page on any Roebuck article that they allow
> comments on, strangely enough they are mostly people with Indian names
> egging him on. It's big bucks for Fairfax to be anti-Australian when
> Australia is playing India. Roebuck deserves a massive payrise, can you
> imagine the revenue he is bringing in for Fairfax from the web site? Can
> you imagine the figures they're showing to their advertisers? Until next
> year of course when the numbers for their website magically go down when
> Australia is not playing India.

>> To punish Harbhajan for his overreaction, he suggested, would impress
>> only "barrack-room lawyers." Peter English may one day be regarded as
>> their equal.

>> His response to a fractious final day on CricInfo was to reflect upon
>> the Australians' supposed loyalty towards the Spirit of Cricket, a
>> document drawn up by their former captain, Steve Waugh, which seeks to
>> encapsulate their "hard but fair" approach to the game.
>> "They are shocked whenever their outlook is challenged," remarked
>> English. "After emotional days like this it is hard to sympathise with
>> their complaints."

> It's hard to sympathise with cricinfo's biased view either. CI is run out
> of India, by Indians, for Indians, and the fans of other countries do not
> matter. Why would they when the other cricket countries combined don't
> even get close to India's population? I'm guessing here but a quick
> calculation puts the population of ALL the other major cricket countries
> at around half of India's population. The fact that this guy has got an
> "English" name is supposed to mean he's not just as beholden to his
> employers as every other "journalist" covering this issue? How long would
> a journalist (if this guy is a journalist) last at CI if they criticised
> India? Honestly this is getting ***ing laughable. These people are
> supposed to be journalists. If it's not Roebuck at the broadsheets making
> a laughing stock of the profession it's the new media like CI. Every one
> of them not interested in a single thing but $, and they'll destroy the
> game before they're finished. It's a strange tactic to take from a
> website completely devoted to the game, a website that I have contributed
> to btw.

>> Culpable

>> Equally culpable in this is the international umpiring fraternity. For
>> too long at Test level, they have done little to quell personal abuse,
>> pleading only that the stump mikes are turned down so that the public
>> does not know the full story.

>> The umpires in Sydney, Mark Benson and Steve Bucknor, would have
>> ignored Harbhajan's outburst, too, had not Ponting laid an official
>> complaint.

>> The difference between personal abuse and a racist outburst is often
>> smaller than many suppose. For too long, in abdicating their
>> responsibility, umpires have played with fire.

>> Now cricket is burning with resentment. ? Guardian Newspapers Limited,
>> 2008

> I'm starting to think it would be better if Australia did not even
> acknowledge their opponents. Start with Perth, shake their hands at the
> start of the game and at the end of the game, and absolutely ***ing
> destroy them in between. Score 600 in about 5 sessions, then bowl them
> out twice in a day. and go on your way. Do not make a single sound in
> between. No doubt we'd still be accused of arrogance.


 
 
 

Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Post by Jason Gillespi » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:55:17

If Peter Roebuck says sun rises in the east, you will still
call him a dumbass and post a thousand line argument why
Roebuck is wrong.

The problem lies in your head, not in Peter Roebuck or Michael
Epis or Tony Greig or Geoff Boycott or other Caucasian
players, commentators and columnists who are universally
condemning the repulsive Australian cry babies and sissies
like you.

As far as I am concerned the TWO MAJOR issues are
incompetent biased umpiring and false allegations on Harbhajan.

Third is Australian hypocritic cheating behavior and broken
pacts agreed to before the series started.

Australian team not shaking hands with the Indian team after the
match is certainly arrogant but its a MINOR issue.

India would hav WON Sydney test even if the umpiring
decisions were 60-40 in favor of Australia.


Quote:
> Telnet wrote in rec.sport.cricket:

>> http://SportToday.org/

>> Harbhajan's *** came because of provocation
>> David Hopps

>> Equally culpable in this is the international umpiring fraternity

>> In punishing Harbhajan cricket is punishing a victim
>> Australia have been obsessed with "reverse racism"

>> LONDON: If Harbhajan Singh is banned for three Tests because he called
>> Andrew Symonds "a monkey" then that is how it must be. In sport, as in
>> life, racism must be challenged at every opportunity.

>> Admittedly, "monkey" would not qualify in the top hundred racist
>> insults. Ian Botham used to revel in the nickname "Guy the Gorilla."
>> When all is said and done, we are all simian primates. But the word
>> "monkey" had form, as everybody knew that Symonds had supposedly
>> suffered such insults last year from Indian crowds. So case proven,
>> the Indian spinner was guilty as charged.
>> The Indian board should stop its posturing, accept what must be a
>> galling reminder that it is the International Cricket Council that
>> still runs the game, and get on with the tour.

>> Punishing a victim

>> Do not delude yourself, though, that in punishing Harbhajan cricket is
>> punishing a sinner. It is punishing a victim. It is punishing a player
>> who, it might be concluded, mentally disintegrated. Remember mental
>> disintegration? It is Australia's nauseatingly self-congratulatory
>> phrase for sledging. And it worked. It worked so well that Harbhajan
>> cracked and Australia have not stopped bleating about their shoddy
>> little victory ever since.

>> Australia complain that Harbhajan crossed the line. On one side of the
>> line supposedly are the supremely talented, peerless, combative
>> Australians who, in the words of their fast bowler, Brett Lee, pride
>> themselves in playing "tough competitive cricket, fairly and
>> squarely."

>> On the other side of the line is an Indian spinner, known by the
>> Australians to have a volatile temperament, who temporarily lost it.
>> He lost his temper, lost his reputation, lost the match.

>> The problem is that Australia's dividing line is not a reliable
>> division between the morally upstanding and the indefensible.
>> Australia's dividing line is repugnant, enabling the condemnation of
>> the likes of Harbhajan whilst legitimising obnoxious behaviour that
>> cricket should have had the bravery to root out a generation ago.

>> Racism cannot be countenanced. But it is a rum old world that bans a
>> man for three Tests for calling someone a monkey, yet allows the sort
>> of boorish behaviour that allows first slip to drone to a batsman or
>> that convinces any fast bowler with half a brain that personal insults
>> every time a batsman plays and misses are essential for any cricketer
>> of spirit.

>> As long as you are careful not to refer to the colour of his skin.

>> It needs to be remembered that Harbhajan's *** did not come
>> without provocation. Before he was abused as a monkey, Symonds had
>> been indulging in a phrase or two out of the corner of his mouth.
>> Australia and Harbhajan have been at each other for years.
>> But Australia have been obsessed with "reverse racism" ever since
>> Darren Lehmann, their batsman, became the first international player
>> to be banned for the racial abuse of Sri Lankan players five years
>> ago. They have been intent upon revenge and now they have gained it.

>> What is deeply instructive in all this is Australia's wisest cricket
>> writers have saved the bulk of their condemnation not for Harbhajan
>> but for Australia. At the moment they matched their own record of 16
>> successive Test victories, it is clear that once again they have won
>> little affection.


>> "Opponents, most not as naturally confrontational, seek to match
>> Australia, but clumsily. Perversely, this gives the Australians the
>> high m***ground."

> Baum is one who has at least made an effort to keep himself under
> control. He deserves credit. He must be under enourmous pressure from his
> employers to trash the Australian team mercilessly, there is a lot of
> revenue to be gained from the website after all.

>> Peter Roebuck, in the Sydney Morning Herald, was incensed enough to
>> call for Australia's captain, Ricky Ponting, to be sacked, accusing
>> his side of "the ugliest performance an Australian side has put up for
>> 20 years."

> Peter Roebuck is employed by Fairfax, which makes its money out of
> advertising revenue from its newspapers and websites. The websites have
> more Indian readers than Australian readers when Australia is playing
> India, hence Peter Roebuck's shoddy attempt to attack Ponting and the
> team. read the comments page on any Roebuck article that they allow
> comments on, strangely enough they are mostly people with Indian names
> egging him on. It's big bucks for Fairfax to be anti-Australian when
> Australia is playing India. Roebuck deserves a massive payrise, can you
> imagine the revenue he is bringing in for Fairfax from the web site? Can
> you imagine the figures they're showing to their advertisers? Until next
> year of course when the numbers for their website magically go down when
> Australia is not playing India.

>> To punish Harbhajan for his overreaction, he suggested, would impress
>> only "barrack-room lawyers." Peter English may one day be regarded as
>> their equal.

>> His response to a fractious final day on CricInfo was to reflect upon
>> the Australians' supposed loyalty towards the Spirit of Cricket, a
>> document drawn up by their former captain, Steve Waugh, which seeks to
>> encapsulate their "hard but fair" approach to the game.
>> "They are shocked whenever their outlook is challenged," remarked
>> English. "After emotional days like this it is hard to sympathise with
>> their complaints."

> It's hard to sympathise with cricinfo's biased view either. CI is run out
> of India, by Indians, for Indians, and the fans of other countries do not
> matter. Why would they when the other cricket countries combined don't
> even get close to India's population? I'm guessing here but a quick
> calculation puts the population of ALL the other major cricket countries
> at around half of India's population. The fact that this guy has got an
> "English" name is supposed to mean he's not just as beholden to his
> employers as every other "journalist" covering this issue? How long would
> a journalist (if this guy is a journalist) last at CI if they criticised
> India? Honestly this is getting ***ing laughable. These people are
> supposed to be journalists. If it's not Roebuck at the broadsheets making
> a laughing stock of the profession it's the new media like CI. Every one
> of them not interested in a single thing but $, and they'll destroy the
> game before they're finished. It's a strange tactic to take from a
> website completely devoted to the game, a website that I have contributed
> to btw.

>> Culpable

>> Equally culpable in this is the international umpiring fraternity. For
>> too long at Test level, they have done little to quell personal abuse,
>> pleading only that the stump mikes are turned down so that the public
>> does not know the full story.

>> The umpires in Sydney, Mark Benson and Steve Bucknor, would have
>> ignored Harbhajan's outburst, too, had not Ponting laid an official
>> complaint.

>> The difference between personal abuse and a racist outburst is often
>> smaller than many suppose. For too long, in abdicating their
>> responsibility, umpires have played with fire.

>> Now cricket is burning with resentment. ? Guardian Newspapers Limited,
>> 2008

> I'm starting to think it would be better if Australia did not even
> acknowledge their opponents. Start with Perth, shake their hands at the
> start of the game and at the end of the game, and absolutely ***ing
> destroy them in between. Score 600 in about 5 sessions, then bowl them
> out twice in a day. and go on your way. Do not make a single sound in
> between. No doubt we'd still be accused of arrogance.


 
 
 

Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Post by Will_ » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:50:06


Quote:
> http://SportToday.org/

> Harbhajan's *** came because of provocation
> David Hopps

There are loads of journos world wide who have seen their sporting stars
humiliated by Australia and use this as an excuse while ignoring the facts.

1/ IF and I say IF and one again I repeat it IF Harby said the monkey words
then there no excuse especially after what happened in Idia

2/ If the match referee just accepted the word of Auistralian players over
the Indians then his decision was greatly flawed

3/ The mechanismn for appeal was always there so why the suspension of the
tour ?  (Will never forgive India for that disgraceful inncident)

 
 
 

Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Post by Cicer » Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:05:32


Quote:
> Telnet wrote in rec.sport.cricket:

>> http://SportToday.org/

>> Harbhajan's *** came because of provocation
>> David Hopps

>> Equally culpable in this is the international umpiring fraternity

>> In punishing Harbhajan cricket is punishing a victim
>> Australia have been obsessed with "reverse racism"

>> LONDON: If Harbhajan Singh is banned for three Tests because he called
>> Andrew Symonds "a monkey" then that is how it must be. In sport, as in
>> life, racism must be challenged at every opportunity.

>> Admittedly, "monkey" would not qualify in the top hundred racist
>> insults. Ian Botham used to revel in the nickname "Guy the Gorilla."
>> When all is said and done, we are all simian primates. But the word
>> "monkey" had form, as everybody knew that Symonds had supposedly
>> suffered such insults last year from Indian crowds. So case proven,
>> the Indian spinner was guilty as charged.
>> The Indian board should stop its posturing, accept what must be a
>> galling reminder that it is the International Cricket Council that
>> still runs the game, and get on with the tour.

>> Punishing a victim

>> Do not delude yourself, though, that in punishing Harbhajan cricket is
>> punishing a sinner. It is punishing a victim. It is punishing a player
>> who, it might be concluded, mentally disintegrated. Remember mental
>> disintegration? It is Australia's nauseatingly self-congratulatory
>> phrase for sledging. And it worked. It worked so well that Harbhajan
>> cracked and Australia have not stopped bleating about their shoddy
>> little victory ever since.

>> Australia complain that Harbhajan crossed the line. On one side of the
>> line supposedly are the supremely talented, peerless, combative
>> Australians who, in the words of their fast bowler, Brett Lee, pride
>> themselves in playing "tough competitive cricket, fairly and
>> squarely."

>> On the other side of the line is an Indian spinner, known by the
>> Australians to have a volatile temperament, who temporarily lost it.
>> He lost his temper, lost his reputation, lost the match.

>> The problem is that Australia's dividing line is not a reliable
>> division between the morally upstanding and the indefensible.
>> Australia's dividing line is repugnant, enabling the condemnation of
>> the likes of Harbhajan whilst legitimising obnoxious behaviour that
>> cricket should have had the bravery to root out a generation ago.

>> Racism cannot be countenanced. But it is a rum old world that bans a
>> man for three Tests for calling someone a monkey, yet allows the sort
>> of boorish behaviour that allows first slip to drone to a batsman or
>> that convinces any fast bowler with half a brain that personal insults
>> every time a batsman plays and misses are essential for any cricketer
>> of spirit.

>> As long as you are careful not to refer to the colour of his skin.

>> It needs to be remembered that Harbhajan's *** did not come
>> without provocation. Before he was abused as a monkey, Symonds had
>> been indulging in a phrase or two out of the corner of his mouth.
>> Australia and Harbhajan have been at each other for years.
>> But Australia have been obsessed with "reverse racism" ever since
>> Darren Lehmann, their batsman, became the first international player
>> to be banned for the racial abuse of Sri Lankan players five years
>> ago. They have been intent upon revenge and now they have gained it.

>> What is deeply instructive in all this is Australia's wisest cricket
>> writers have saved the bulk of their condemnation not for Harbhajan
>> but for Australia. At the moment they matched their own record of 16
>> successive Test victories, it is clear that once again they have won
>> little affection.


>> "Opponents, most not as naturally confrontational, seek to match
>> Australia, but clumsily. Perversely, this gives the Australians the
>> high m***ground."

> Baum is one who has at least made an effort to keep himself under
> control. He deserves credit. He must be under enourmous pressure from his
> employers to trash the Australian team mercilessly, there is a lot of
> revenue to be gained from the website after all.

>> Peter Roebuck, in the Sydney Morning Herald, was incensed enough to
>> call for Australia's captain, Ricky Ponting, to be sacked, accusing
>> his side of "the ugliest performance an Australian side has put up for
>> 20 years."

> Peter Roebuck is employed by Fairfax, which makes its money out of
> advertising revenue from its newspapers and websites. The websites have
> more Indian readers than Australian readers when Australia is playing
> India, hence Peter Roebuck's shoddy attempt to attack Ponting and the
> team. read the comments page on any Roebuck article that they allow
> comments on, strangely enough they are mostly people with Indian names
> egging him on. It's big bucks for Fairfax to be anti-Australian when
> Australia is playing India. Roebuck deserves a massive payrise, can you
> imagine the revenue he is bringing in for Fairfax from the web site? Can
> you imagine the figures they're showing to their advertisers? Until next
> year of course when the numbers for their website magically go down when
> Australia is not playing India.

>> To punish Harbhajan for his overreaction, he suggested, would impress
>> only "barrack-room lawyers." Peter English may one day be regarded as
>> their equal.

>> His response to a fractious final day on CricInfo was to reflect upon
>> the Australians' supposed loyalty towards the Spirit of Cricket, a
>> document drawn up by their former captain, Steve Waugh, which seeks to
>> encapsulate their "hard but fair" approach to the game.
>> "They are shocked whenever their outlook is challenged," remarked
>> English. "After emotional days like this it is hard to sympathise with
>> their complaints."

> It's hard to sympathise with cricinfo's biased view either. CI is run out
> of India, by Indians, for Indians, and the fans of other countries do not
> matter. Why would they when the other cricket countries combined don't
> even get close to India's population? I'm guessing here but a quick
> calculation puts the population of ALL the other major cricket countries
> at around half of India's population. The fact that this guy has got an
> "English" name is supposed to mean he's not just as beholden to his
> employers as every other "journalist" covering this issue? How long would
> a journalist (if this guy is a journalist) last at CI if they criticised
> India? Honestly this is getting ***ing laughable. These people are
> supposed to be journalists. If it's not Roebuck at the broadsheets making
> a laughing stock of the profession it's the new media like CI. Every one
> of them not interested in a single thing but $, and they'll destroy the
> game before they're finished. It's a strange tactic to take from a
> website completely devoted to the game, a website that I have contributed
> to btw.

>> Culpable

>> Equally culpable in this is the international umpiring fraternity. For
>> too long at Test level, they have done little to quell personal abuse,
>> pleading only that the stump mikes are turned down so that the public
>> does not know the full story.

>> The umpires in Sydney, Mark Benson and Steve Bucknor, would have
>> ignored Harbhajan's outburst, too, had not Ponting laid an official
>> complaint.

>> The difference between personal abuse and a racist outburst is often
>> smaller than many suppose. For too long, in abdicating their
>> responsibility, umpires have played with fire.

>> Now cricket is burning with resentment. ? Guardian Newspapers Limited,
>> 2008

> I'm starting to think it would be better if Australia did not even
> acknowledge their opponents. Start with Perth, shake their hands at the
> start of the game and at the end of the game, and absolutely ***ing
> destroy them in between. Score 600 in about 5 sessions, then bowl them
> out twice in a day. and go on your way. Do not make a single sound in
> between. No doubt we'd still be accused of arrogance.

Better still- bat first and score 600 in 15 sessions.
 
 
 

Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Post by Don Mile » Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:38:53



Quote:
>I'm starting to think it would be better if Australia did not even
>acknowledge their opponents. Start with Perth, shake their hands at the
>start of the game and at the end of the game, and absolutely ***ing
>destroy them in between. Score 600 in about 5 sessions, then bowl them
>out twice in a day. and go on your way. Do not make a single sound in
>between. No doubt we'd still be accused of arrogance.

Sadly it would be completely beyond them it seems from recent form.

And I don't mean the 600 or the twice in a day bowl out - I mean not
making a single sound - it would demand far too much self-control.

If they could manage any sort of performance without the 'single sound'
I'd take my hat of to them. Sadly it might as well be stuck with
super-glue.

Let's turn up the stump mikes - place a bug on every player - and let's
see if they can still win with the world listening in.

Don
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Post by Jellybean » Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:23:50

Quote:



>> I'm starting to think it would be better if Australia did not even
>> acknowledge their opponents. Start with Perth, shake their hands at
>> the start of the game and at the end of the game, and absolutely
>> ***ing destroy them in between. Score 600 in about 5 sessions, then
>> bowl them out twice in a day. and go on your way. Do not make a single
>> sound in between. No doubt we'd still be accused of arrogance.

> Sadly it would be completely beyond them it seems from recent form.

> And I don't mean the 600 or the twice in a day bowl out - I mean not
> making a single sound - it would demand far too much self-control.

Have neve seen or watched an aussie side go 5 mins without an appeal.
Quote:

> If they could manage any sort of performance without the 'single sound'
> I'd take my hat of to them. Sadly it might as well be stuck with
> super-glue.

> Let's turn up the stump mikes - place a bug on every player - and let's
> see if they can still win with the world listening in.

> Don

 
 
 

Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Post by Jellybean » Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:25:00

Quote:



>> http://SportToday.org/

>> Harbhajan's *** came because of provocation
>> David Hopps

> There are loads of journos world wide who have seen their sporting stars
> humiliated by Australia and use this as an excuse while ignoring the facts.

> 1/ IF and I say IF and one again I repeat it IF Harby said the monkey
> words then there no excuse especially after what happened in Idia

> 2/ If the match referee just accepted the word of Auistralian players
> over the Indians then his decision was greatly flawed

> 3/ The mechanismn for appeal was always there so why the suspension of
> the tour ?  (Will never forgive Australia for that disgraceful incident)

Corrected.
 
 
 

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Post by linu » Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:16:25


Quote:

> I'm starting to think it would be better if Australia did not even
> acknowledge their opponents. Start with Perth, shake their hands at the
> start of the game and at the end of the game, and absolutely ***ing
> destroy them in between. Score 600 in about 5 sessions, then bowl them
> out twice in a day. and go on your way. Do not make a single sound in
> between. No doubt we'd still be accused of arrogance.- Hide quoted text -

That will be the day when Australians can play without opening their
mouths!  As some one else suggested, lets turn on the stump mikes, and
also equip all players with mikes so that everyone can hear what is
being said out their in the middle. Then we will see who can and can
not play without the so called "mental disintegration".  That would be
interesting indeed.
 
 
 

Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Post by Fish Womp » Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:38:00

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:16:25 -0800 (PST), linus

Quote:


>> I'm starting to think it would be better if Australia did not even
>> acknowledge their opponents. Start with Perth, shake their hands at the
>> start of the game and at the end of the game, and absolutely ***ing
>> destroy them in between. Score 600 in about 5 sessions, then bowl them
>> out twice in a day. and go on your way. Do not make a single sound in
>> between. No doubt we'd still be accused of arrogance.- Hide quoted text -

>That will be the day when Australians can play without opening their
>mouths!  As some one else suggested, lets turn on the stump mikes, and
>also equip all players with mikes so that everyone can hear what is
>being said out their in the middle. Then we will see who can and can
>not play without the so called "mental disintegration".  That would be
>interesting indeed.

And I suppose H Singh didn't tell Pieterson to *** off either?

Careful with wanting stump mics on all the time, what they reveal may
not be what you expect.

fish

 
 
 

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Post by Cicer » Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:51:26


Quote:



>>> I'm starting to think it would be better if Australia did not even
>>> acknowledge their opponents. Start with Perth, shake their hands at the
>>> start of the game and at the end of the game, and absolutely ***ing
>>> destroy them in between. Score 600 in about 5 sessions, then bowl them
>>> out twice in a day. and go on your way. Do not make a single sound in
>>> between. No doubt we'd still be accused of arrogance.

>> Sadly it would be completely beyond them it seems from recent form.

>> And I don't mean the 600 or the twice in a day bowl out - I mean not
>> making a single sound - it would demand far too much self-control.

> Have neve seen or watched an aussie side go 5 mins without an appeal.

That's because they have some pretty handy bowlers.
 
 
 

Harbhajan is a victim of Australia's nauseatingly self congratulatory Sledging - David Hopps

Post by Jellybean » Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:33:52

Quote:






>>>> I'm starting to think it would be better if Australia did not even
>>>> acknowledge their opponents. Start with Perth, shake their hands at
>>>> the start of the game and at the end of the game, and absolutely
>>>> ***ing destroy them in between. Score 600 in about 5 sessions, then
>>>> bowl them out twice in a day. and go on your way. Do not make a
>>>> single sound in between. No doubt we'd still be accused of arrogance.

>>> Sadly it would be completely beyond them it seems from recent form.

>>> And I don't mean the 600 or the twice in a day bowl out - I mean not
>>> making a single sound - it would demand far too much self-control.

>> Have neve seen or watched an aussie side go 5 mins without an appeal.

> That's because they have some pretty Loud bowlers.

Corrected