Interview with Jonty on Himself, Sledging, Australia etc.

Interview with Jonty on Himself, Sledging, Australia etc.

Post by SA » Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:16:04


Hi

A Jonty Rhodes interview has just appeared in SA Sports Illustrated. Being a
national magazine most of you won't have access to it so I will paraphrase a
few points

a) On SA's chances and past WC's - Rhodes was not led here. This will be his
4th WC. Mentioned that their best chance was probably in 1996 when they were
playing so well. Does not say that they would have won. Trouble is they were
undone by Brian Lara. In 2003 - Says SA can win but is not drawn on
probability

b) Rhodes on Sledging
- Talks about how he and Warne always have a friendly go but all in good fun
and not really sledging
- Also says "A lot is made of sledging and at this level of cricket you've
got to have a sense of humour and laugh at yourself... I've always regarded
it as a compliment if people are trying to distract me. Graeme (Smith)
should take what happened to him as that. I spoke to Shane during last
year's one day series and said "you're giving our young boy a hard time?" He
(Shane) replied that they had given Smith a real working over to see if he
crumbled and he didn't...Augurs well for the future"

The 2 things that are apparent here. Rhodes reckons the sledging is not an
issue and he hints that Smith perhaps should rather take a positive out of
it and not make anything of it

c) Rhodes on retirement - After WC thats it for ODIs. Going to play a season
for Glouctershire and then thats probably it for 1st class cricket

d) Opinions of fielders
- Has high praise for Ponting and Gibbs. Then he specifically singles out
the way the sub-continent fielders have come through (esp. given that some
of the outfields of very hard underneath). Singles out Mohammed Kaif, Yuvraj
Singh plus 1 or 2 Pakistani chaps

e) On SA's mental strength in the WC - Says SA can win given that the games
are one-off and not a series. Seems to concede that Aus are sharper on the
Psychological side. But SA have one a few games in recent years against Aus
(like the indoor series) and can do it. Definitely seems to concede the
mental edge to Aus

f) On Aus and their weaknesses - Here Rhodes concedes no weaknesses. Says
that Aus rely heaviliy their 6 batters and that they are all world class
guys. Says SA needs to nip out 2 or 3 cheaply early on. However he points
out Aus' tail. Basically he is saying that if the top order misfires then
maybe ...

g) A lot of other stuff including his relationship with Cronje. He says
nothing to condone any behaviour (not even betwen the lines) but they were
obviously friends and Rhodes forgave him pretty quickly (maybe due to
Christianity?) Cronje knew not to approach Rhodes with any funny business

Rhodes seems an extremely modest and decent chap. I suppose he has been
around the block often enough. Hopefully he, Klusner, Gibbs, Pollock, Ntini
etc all fire..

Oh well I can hope

Cheers
Dave

 
 
 

Interview with Jonty on Himself, Sledging, Australia etc.

Post by Mike Holman » Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:04:39


tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

Quote:
>b) Rhodes on Sledging
>- Talks about how he and Warne always have a friendly go but all in good fun
>and not really sledging
>- Also says "A lot is made of sledging and at this level of cricket you've
>got to have a sense of humour and laugh at yourself... I've always regarded
>it as a compliment if people are trying to distract me. Graeme (Smith)
>should take what happened to him as that. I spoke to Shane during last
>year's one day series and said "you're giving our young boy a hard time?" He
>(Shane) replied that they had given Smith a real working over to see if he
>crumbled and he didn't...Augurs well for the future"

>The 2 things that are apparent here. Rhodes reckons the sledging is not an
>issue and he hints that Smith perhaps should rather take a positive out of
>it and not make anything of it

That's very much the Atherton line. In his first series against
Australia he got verbals a-plenty. By then end of his second series,
in which he got some runs, they stopped, from which he gathered that
they now respected him as a worthy opponent because he'd passed the
test. He also takes the line that surviving the verbal onslaught is as
much part of the mental, physical and technical challenge of top-level
cricket as facing bouncers and googlies.

I have to admit that the more whinges I read about the evils of
Australian sledging, the more Atherton's view appeals to me.

Cheers,

Mike

 
 
 

Interview with Jonty on Himself, Sledging, Australia etc.

Post by JLichte » Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:11:36

Quote:


> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

> >b) Rhodes on Sledging
> >- Talks about how he and Warne always have a friendly go but all in good fun
> >and not really sledging
> >- Also says "A lot is made of sledging and at this level of cricket you've
> >got to have a sense of humour and laugh at yourself... I've always regarded
> >it as a compliment if people are trying to distract me. Graeme (Smith)
> >should take what happened to him as that. I spoke to Shane during last
> >year's one day series and said "you're giving our young boy a hard time?" He
> >(Shane) replied that they had given Smith a real working over to see if he
> >crumbled and he didn't...Augurs well for the future"

> >The 2 things that are apparent here. Rhodes reckons the sledging is not an
> >issue and he hints that Smith perhaps should rather take a positive out of
> >it and not make anything of it

> That's very much the Atherton line. In his first series against
> Australia he got verbals a-plenty. By then end of his second series,
> in which he got some runs, they stopped, from which he gathered that
> they now respected him as a worthy opponent because he'd passed the
> test. He also takes the line that surviving the verbal onslaught is as
> much part of the mental, physical and technical challenge of top-level
> cricket as facing bouncers and googlies.

> I have to admit that the more whinges I read about the evils of
> Australian sledging, the more Atherton's view appeals to me.

Clearly AThers, like Smith and apparently Warne are exaggerating.
After all, the Aussie TV audience heard nothing, so it must not have
happened. And guess what, there's good news too - no trees have ever
fallen in the Amazon forest. Rejoice.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> Mike


 
 
 

Interview with Jonty on Himself, Sledging, Australia etc.

Post by Moby » Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:06:22


Quote:
> Clearly AThers, like Smith and apparently Warne are exaggerating.
> After all, the Aussie TV audience heard nothing, so it must not have
> happened. And guess what, there's good news too - no trees have ever
> fallen in the Amazon forest. Rejoice.

As much as you might like to win it, I'm afraid Ken has the
misrepresentation award wrapped up for the next 5 years.

How about you try that again, but his time, perhaps you can get it right?

Moby

 
 
 

Interview with Jonty on Himself, Sledging, Australia etc.

Post by JLichte » Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:05:10

Quote:



> > Clearly AThers, like Smith and apparently Warne are exaggerating.
> > After all, the Aussie TV audience heard nothing, so it must not have
> > happened. And guess what, there's good news too - no trees have ever
> > fallen in the Amazon forest. Rejoice.

> As much as you might like to win it, I'm afraid Ken has the
> misrepresentation award wrapped up for the next 5 years.

> How about you try that again, but his time, perhaps you can get it right?

Sorry, I'm jus not as expert as you guys at apologist strategies and
double-speak. I also see no reason to fine tune those skills, and am
quite happy to get it wrong.
 
 
 

Interview with Jonty on Himself, Sledging, Australia etc.

Post by Mad Hamis » Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:08:28


Quote:



>> > Clearly AThers, like Smith and apparently Warne are exaggerating.
>> > After all, the Aussie TV audience heard nothing, so it must not have
>> > happened. And guess what, there's good news too - no trees have ever
>> > fallen in the Amazon forest. Rejoice.

>> As much as you might like to win it, I'm afraid Ken has the
>> misrepresentation award wrapped up for the next 5 years.

>> How about you try that again, but his time, perhaps you can get it right?

>Sorry, I'm jus not as expert as you guys at apologist strategies and
>double-speak. I also see no reason to fine tune those skills, and am
>quite happy to get it wrong.

So tell us your views on Cronje again ...
--
"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001

Mad Hamish
Hamish Laws

 
 
 

Interview with Jonty on Himself, Sledging, Australia etc.

Post by JLichte » Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:42:15

Quote:





> >> > Clearly AThers, like Smith and apparently Warne are exaggerating.
> >> > After all, the Aussie TV audience heard nothing, so it must not have
> >> > happened. And guess what, there's good news too - no trees have ever
> >> > fallen in the Amazon forest. Rejoice.

> >> As much as you might like to win it, I'm afraid Ken has the
> >> misrepresentation award wrapped up for the next 5 years.

> >> How about you try that again, but his time, perhaps you can get it right?

> >Sorry, I'm jus not as expert as you guys at apologist strategies and
> >double-speak. I also see no reason to fine tune those skills, and am
> >quite happy to get it wrong.

> So tell us your views on Cronje again ...

Whats your point? Perhaps you'd care to mischaracterize them here
again?
My views on Cronje are obvious to all.
My views on people not understanding that others ((like the RSA
players and ppl who actually knew Cronje) have different views of
Cronje and how they relate to him and think he should be
regarded/treated, and that those views have legitimate bases, are what
you and the like of Paul Robson keep asserting are my views on Cronje.
You merge the two, and then accuse me of holding views on Cronje, a
typical demonstration of the double-speak of which I speak. I guess
Polly Robson hasnt got to that chapter in his debating book yet.