Bad fileding, bad wicket keeping, bad attitude (WI Vs Aus)

Bad fileding, bad wicket keeping, bad attitude (WI Vs Aus)

Post by Guzni & Nahee » Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Last night I watched highlights of day 3 of test 4 between
Australia Vs W.I.

I have not seen such a bad wicket keeping in test cricket in recent
times.

I have not seen such a bad fielding in test cricket in recent times.

and

There were three "wickets" on no-balls. What should I say? I have not
seen such a bad luck in test cricket (ONLY in one day 3 wickets on
no-balls) in recent days.

W.I. did not look the team which was playing against Pakistan in recently
concluded ODI series.

I suggest them to take a long rest from all kinds of cricket and start
afresh in about 6 months time.

--

Regards
GUZNI
I am a believer in punctuality, though it makes me very lonely.
-------------------------------------------------------------
IMAM ALI (AS) "Every person who is tempted to go astray, does
not deserve punishment." ************************************

 
 
 

Bad fileding, bad wicket keeping, bad attitude (WI Vs Aus)

Post by Eamon Hanna » Tue, 28 Jan 1997 04:00:00

I think its a problem with the split tour - these guys have just had to
scrape themselves off the floor after being drubbed by Pakistan. Neither
the Windies or Aussies could seriously be accused of being in form this
season - the Pakis came annihilated the Windies in the finals and the
Aussies are benefitting by blasting a team who has been beaten at the end
of a long tour just when they had started to turn things around - but keep
in mind Melbourne was only a matter of a couple of runs scored by Junior
Murray - it would have been a whole lot harder to win if the Aussies had
scored say another 60 or so runs.



Quote:
> Last night I watched highlights of day 3 of test 4 between
> Australia Vs W.I.

> I have not seen such a bad wicket keeping in test cricket in recent
> times.

> I have not seen such a bad fielding in test cricket in recent times.

> and

> There were three "wickets" on no-balls. What should I say? I have not
> seen such a bad luck in test cricket (ONLY in one day 3 wickets on
> no-balls) in recent days.

> W.I. did not look the team which was playing against Pakistan in recently
> concluded ODI series.

> I suggest them to take a long rest from all kinds of cricket and start
> afresh in about 6 months time.

> --

> Regards
> GUZNI
> I am a believer in punctuality, though it makes me very lonely.
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> IMAM ALI (AS) "Every person who is tempted to go astray, does
> not deserve punishment." ************************************


 
 
 

Bad fileding, bad wicket keeping, bad attitude (WI Vs Aus)

Post by Lalit Kum » Tue, 28 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>Last night I watched highlights of day 3 of test 4 between
>Australia Vs W.I.
>I have not seen such a bad wicket keeping in test cricket in recent
>times.
>I have not seen such a bad fielding in test cricket in recent times.
>and
>There were three "wickets" on no-balls. What should I say? I have not
>seen such a bad luck in test cricket (ONLY in one day 3 wickets on
>no-balls) in recent days.
>W.I. did not look the team which was playing against Pakistan in recently
>concluded ODI series.
>I suggest them to take a long rest from all kinds of cricket and start
>afresh in about 6 months time.

Quite correct. I watched the whole match on TV and there were a number
of times when I felt like throwing my TV out of the window.

The display by the windies was horrible and Captain Walsh should take
most of the blame. He was one of those who got a wicket off a no ball
and then rounded that off by dropping the simplest of catches. How can
he expect the others to do well.

Also the windies were not helped by some ordinary umpiring. Hayden was
caught behind by Murray but was given not out. Cleary this was out as
the sound could not have come from anything else but the bat.

The second one was when Jimmy Adams took a good bat-pad catch off Mark
Waugh, from the bowling of Hooper. Although Mark was clearly out, it
was pretty difficult for the umpire to judge this one (although I dare
say that if it was a windies batsman and warne bowling then the
benefit would have gone to the Aussies ( ;  )

Overall, a pathetic display by the Windies and in this form even
Zimbabwe should be able to thrash them.

Lalit

 
 
 

Bad fileding, bad wicket keeping, bad attitude (WI Vs Aus)

Post by Joshua Saunder » Tue, 28 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>I think its a problem with the split tour - these guys have just had to
>scrape themselves off the floor after being drubbed by Pakistan.

Well both teams have had that problem. In addition to losing some soul
destroyign games to Pakistan, Aus was also losing in dismal fashion to WI.

Quote:
> Neither
>the Windies or Aussies could seriously be accused of being in form this
>season

Well not in ODI form. I think Aus could justifiably say they've been in
good Test form.

Quote:
> - the Pakis came annihilated the Windies in the finals and the
>Aussies are benefitting by blasting a team who has been beaten at the end
>of a long tour just when they had started to turn things around

Well Aus WAS in Sri Lanka in August, it hasn't been a long summer for just
one team. If WI are beaten just because it's the end of a long tour, well
I'd say that's the end of WI as we know them. I don't subscribe to this
theory.

Quote:
>- but keep
>in mind Melbourne was only a matter of a couple of runs scored by Junior
>Murray - it would have been a whole lot harder to win if the Aussies had
>scored say another 60 or so runs.

Well it's hard to say. Adams was in fine form in that test, and as you
mention, Murray was too. Aus COULD have won with another 60 runs, OTOH
they may have needed more like 150 more runs. You just can't say.

Josh

 
 
 

Bad fileding, bad wicket keeping, bad attitude (WI Vs Aus)

Post by Joshua Saunder » Tue, 28 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


>>Last night I watched highlights of day 3 of test 4 between
>>Australia Vs W.I.

>>I have not seen such a bad wicket keeping in test cricket in recent
>>times.

>>I have not seen such a bad fielding in test cricket in recent times.

>>and

>>There were three "wickets" on no-balls. What should I say? I have not
>>seen such a bad luck in test cricket (ONLY in one day 3 wickets on
>>no-balls) in recent days.

>>W.I. did not look the team which was playing against Pakistan in recently
>>concluded ODI series.

>>I suggest them to take a long rest from all kinds of cricket and start
>>afresh in about 6 months time.

>Quite correct. I watched the whole match on TV and there were a number
>of times when I felt like throwing my TV out of the window.

>The display by the windies was horrible and Captain Walsh should take
>most of the blame. He was one of those who got a wicket off a no ball
>and then rounded that off by dropping the simplest of catches. How can
>he expect the others to do well.

>Also the windies were not helped by some ordinary umpiring. Hayden was
>caught behind by Murray but was given not out. Cleary this was out as
>the sound could not have come from anything else but the bat.

No I can't agree here. This was not at all "clearly out".

Quote:
>The second one was when Jimmy Adams took a good bat-pad catch off Mark
>Waugh, from the bowling of Hooper. Although Mark was clearly out, it
>was pretty difficult for the umpire to judge this one (although I dare
>say that if it was a windies batsman and warne bowling then the
>benefit would have gone to the Aussies ( ;  )

Yes well no doubt Dave Shepherd is a nice fellow, but it's clear he's an
incompetent umpire (scoff scoff). How you can say it was "clearly" out
when the commentators couldn't work it out at all, is quite beyond me.

It's a bit rich even mentioning umpires when a team has lost 16 for 284
over the 2 innings on a good batting pitch.

Quote:
>Overall, a pathetic display by the Windies and in this form even
>Zimbabwe should be able to thrash them.

I seriously doubt that.

Josh

 
 
 

Bad fileding, bad wicket keeping, bad attitude (WI Vs Aus)

Post by Kurt Tools » Tue, 28 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>>Also the windies were not helped by some ordinary umpiring. Hayden was
>>caught behind by Murray but was given not out. Cleary this was out as
>>the sound could not have come from anything else but the bat.

>No I can't agree here. This was not at all "clearly out".

Well, very few fine-edged catches are CLEARLY out. I'm assuming that
we are actually talking about the Bevans decision when there was a
noticeable "snick" heard in the audio. I'd have to say this was out
but I would not bet my life on it. It was a fine edge similar to
a couple of the earlier WI tail dismissals of Bevan which were given
out.

Quote:
>>The second one was when Jimmy Adams took a good bat-pad catch off Mark
>>Waugh, from the bowling of Hooper. Although Mark was clearly out, it
>>was pretty difficult for the umpire to judge this one (although I dare
>>say that if it was a windies batsman and warne bowling then the
>>benefit would have gone to the Aussies ( ;  )

>Yes well no doubt Dave Shepherd is a nice fellow, but it's clear he's an
>incompetent umpire (scoff scoff). How you can say it was "clearly" out
>when the commentators couldn't work it out at all, is quite beyond me.

Again, probably was out but I certainly cannot fault Shepherd on this
decision as it was very difficult to be sure.

Quote:
>It's a bit rich even mentioning umpires when a team has lost 16 for 284
>over the 2 innings on a good batting pitch.

Well, you're right, the Wi batted terribly and the Australians bowled
well. However, I feel the Australians were very lucky to make over 350.
Umpire Randel has certainly done the WI no favors, and has consistently
given all the close ones to Australia. Still even 350 would have probably
been enough.

Quote:
>>Overall, a pathetic display by the Windies and in this form even
>>Zimbabwe should be able to thrash them.

Yes, a pathetic batting display, although as I said earlier the
bowling was not too bad. Although after the 3rd "wicket" off a
no-ball, the fight just seemed to go out of them as they realized
that destiny was against them.

Quote:
>I seriously doubt that.

Me too, but they Zimbabwe might have a chance. The WI will be bundled
out for a low score like this every now and then as their batting, while
talented, is still very fragile. Also, they really cannot afford to have
a second-rate keeper, no matter how well he bats.

Well, the series is well and truly over, so congrats to Australia,
they can be no doubt they deserved it.

Quote:
>Josh

Kurt