## medium fast or fast medium

### medium fast or fast medium

I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
fast they are bowling?
If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

Maghin Tamilarasan

### medium fast or fast medium

Quote:

> I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> fast they are bowling?
> If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

I think it goes like this in ascending order

Medium - Medium fast - fast medium - fast

They take average speed to determine this.

Kanwar

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> Maghin Tamilarasan

### medium fast or fast medium

Quote:

> I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> fast they are bowling?
> If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
"medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

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### medium fast or fast medium

Quote:

>> I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
>> fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
>> which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
>> fast they are bowling?
>> If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.
>I think it goes like this in ascending order
>Medium - Medium fast - fast medium - fast

I think, it should be other way round: Medium, Fast medium, Medium fast, Fast.

My logic is that Fast Medium is still of type Medium where 'Fast' is its
adjective/adverb.

On the other hand, Medium fast is 'fast' but not to that extent.

Comments welcome.

-- Niladri
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### medium fast or fast medium

Maghin Tamilarasan asks:

Quote:
>I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
>fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
>which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
>fast they are bowling?
>If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

Well this classification is what I call "country dependent". As you will
see the terms mean quite different things in India.

In Descending order of speed:

Rest of the World
India
--------------------------
----------

1. Fast
Extinct after Mohammed Nissar.

2. Medium Fast
Great, stupendous, scorching, unequalled,

future Hotel owner, columnist, god, MP, will

date starlets and marry industrilaist's
daughter.

3. Medium
Deadly, lethal, fierce, match winner,

Pride of Bombay/TN/Delhi/wherever,

Future captain, Miandad's favorite target

4. Medium Fast
Genuine ***, deadly seamer,

potential match winner, future selector,

will marry a model/actress.

5. Military Medium
Potential genuine ***, honest to goodness
trier, future captain,
UAE Coach, flunkey to

future MP, will be linked to failed starlets.

6. Fast/Flat spinner
Evolving Paceman, thinking bowler, Bengal
Ranji Captain, full time
Yes man, future
manager, will write many articles/a book

acknowledging debt to SMG/Kapil.

7. Failed county/shell shield bowler                           nagging,
accurate, penetrative...will set a world

FC record against J & K, will help Arun Lal
beat Gaekwad's
record. Future Cong-I fund
raiser.

8.       ???
Madan lal, Suru Nayak, Eknath Solkar,
Kulkarni, TA Shekar,
God help us all.

BTW Denniss lillee at various times in his career has passed through most
of categories 1 to 7 (on the left). It is rumored though that Miandad,
Zaheer Abbas and Co. continued to prefer the Ghavris and Chetan Sharmas.

ravi (with 5 more Mohalis we would have a team of Dravids and Srinaths
that could take the battle to any world test side while just one more
Dalmiya will send us to the bottom with UAE) aron.

### medium fast or fast medium

Quote:
> I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> fast they are bowling?
> If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

> Maghin Tamilarasan

I read a hilarious posting ard a year ago or so where INdia's bowlers were
rated into fast, fast medium, medium fast, medium, slow medium, military medium
and the like ... any1 got a copy of it ?

--

Nanyang Technological University
Mayajaal : http://www2.ntu.ac.sg:8000/~sf918168/mayajaal.html

### medium fast or fast medium

Subject: Re: medium fast or fast medium

Date: 10 Apr 1997 22:33:55 GMT

Maghin Tamilarasan asks:

Sorry, my mail editor garbled the formatting last time. Hopefully it will
work this ime around.

Quote:
>I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
>fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
>which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
>fast they are bowling?
>If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

Well this classification is what I call "country dependent". As you will
see the terms mean quite different things in India.

In Descending order of speed:

Rest of the World
India
--------------------------
----------

1. Fast
Extinct after Mohammed Nissar.

2. Medium Fast                                                     Great,
stupendous, scorching, unequalled,

future Hotel owner, columnist, god, MP, will

date starlets and marry industrilaist's daughter

3. Medium
Deadly, lethal, fierce, match winner,
Pride of
Bombay/TN/Delhi/wherever,

Future captain, Miandad's favorite target

4.  Fast Medium                                                    Genuine
***, deadly seamer,

potential match winner, future selector,

will marry a model/actress.

5. Military Medium
Potential genuine ***, honest to

goodness trier, future captain,UAE Coach,
flunkey to future MP,
will be linked

to failed starlets.

6. Fast/Flat spinner
Evolving Paceman, thinking bowler, Bengal
Ranji Captain, full time
Yes man, future

manager, will write many articles/a book

acknowledging debt to SMG/Kapil.

7. Failed county/shell shield bowler                       nagging,
accurate, penetrative...will set a world

FC record against J & K, will help Arun Lal

beat Gaekwad's record. Future Cong-I fund

raiser.

8.       ???
Madan lal, Suru Nayak, Eknath Solkar,

Kulkarni, TA Shekar,God help us all.

BTW Denniss lillee at various times in his career has passed through most
of categories 1 to 7 (on the left). It is rumored though that Miandad,
Zaheer Abbas and Co. continued to prefer the Ghavris and Chetan Sharmas.

ravi (with 5 more Mohalis we would have a team of Dravids and Srinaths
that could take the battle to any world test side while just one more
Dalmiya will send us to the bottom with UAE) aron.

### medium fast or fast medium

: >
: > I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
: > fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
: > which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
: > fast they are bowling?
: > If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.
:
: I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
: "medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

It not a good/accurate way of describing speed but Medium Fast is slow the
Fast Medium (at least everywhere I've seen it used).
Here is the order as I understand  it

Fast
Fast (Medium)
Medium (Fast)
Medium

If they every use brackets people might be less confused. Lets hope I've
started something. Generally a fast medium would imply a fastish medium.

Colin

### medium fast or fast medium

Quote:

> : >
> : > I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> : > fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> : > which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> : > fast they are bowling?
> : > If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.
> :
> : I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
> : "medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

> It not a good/accurate way of describing speed but Medium Fast is slow the
> Fast Medium (at least everywhere I've seen it used).
> Here is the order as I understand  it

> Fast
> Fast (Medium)
> Medium (Fast)
> Medium

> If they every use brackets people might be less confused. Lets hope I've
> started something. Generally a fast medium would imply a fastish medium.

> Colin

I personally think that commentators subscribe the Feyeraband's
"Anarchistic Theory of Knowledge" and chop and change whenever they feel
like it. I think "fast-medium" should be quicker than "medium fast" but,
hell, there is no authority for either of them.

Cheers
MArk

### medium fast or fast medium

Quote:

> : >
> : > I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> : > fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> : > which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> : > fast they are bowling?
> : > If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.
> :
> : I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
> : "medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

> It not a good/accurate way of describing speed but Medium Fast is slow the
> Fast Medium (at least everywhere I've seen it used).
> Here is the order as I understand  it

> Fast
> Fast (Medium)
> Medium (Fast)
> Medium

> If they every use brackets people might be less confused. Lets hope I've
> started something. Generally a fast medium would imply a fastish medium.

> Colin

Ok, now what is FAST, FAST(MEDIUM), MEDIUM(FAST), MEDIUM, etc ?
Is 100Km/h fast or fast(medium), or, medium(fast), ?
Someone was commenting Gillespie bowled VERY FAST at 141Km/h against RSA.
Could someone care to explain these rating into some physical units.
Thanks, Joe C.

### medium fast or fast medium

Quote:

> > I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> > fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> > which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> > fast they are bowling?
> > If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

> I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
> "medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

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***** Medium Slow exists, only the tv companies are usually too polite too
call someone that, so they just call them Medium.
Fast Medium is quicker than medium fast.
It goes:

Slow (spinners i guess)
Slow-Medium (dodgy spinners like Derik Underwood but then all
all spinners are just referred to as offbreak,
legbreak or slow-left-arm)
Medium-Slow - people like Thorpe, Cronje, Astle.
Medium      - Mark Ealham of England, Greg Blewett, Steve Waugh
Medium-Fast - Craig White, probably mark waugh
Fast-Medium - all the england seamers. Plus loads of others
Fast - Younis, Wasim, Donald, Devon Malcolm, Maybe Srinath too.

Hope that answers your questions.!

### medium fast or fast medium

Quote:

> Ok, now what is FAST, FAST(MEDIUM), MEDIUM(FAST), MEDIUM, etc ?
> Is 100Km/h fast or fast(medium), or, medium(fast), ?
> Someone was commenting Gillespie bowled VERY FAST at 141Km/h against RSA.
> Could someone care to explain these rating into some physical units.
> Thanks, Joe C.

This was the point I was trying to make when I started this thread. As
can be seen by the responses, there seems to be no clear agreement as to
the classifications for a pace bowler, nor does there seem to be any
logic to the way they are classified, other than people's intuition and
gut feeling.

Maghin