medium fast or fast medium

medium fast or fast medium

Post by Maghin Tamilarasa » Fri, 11 Apr 1997 04:00:00


I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
fast they are bowling?
If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

Maghin Tamilarasan

 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by Kanwar Dhaliwa » Fri, 11 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> fast they are bowling?
> If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

I think it goes like this in ascending order

Medium - Medium fast - fast medium - fast

They take average speed to determine this.

Kanwar

Quote:

> Maghin Tamilarasan



 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by r_kris.. » Fri, 11 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> fast they are bowling?
> If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
"medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

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medium fast or fast medium

Post by Niladri CHATTERJ » Fri, 11 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


>> I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
>> fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
>> which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
>> fast they are bowling?
>> If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.
>I think it goes like this in ascending order
>Medium - Medium fast - fast medium - fast

I think, it should be other way round: Medium, Fast medium, Medium fast, Fast.

My logic is that Fast Medium is still of type Medium where 'Fast' is its
adjective/adverb.

On the other hand, Medium fast is 'fast' but not to that extent.

Comments welcome.

-- Niladri
----------

 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by Ravi Ar » Fri, 11 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Maghin Tamilarasan asks:

Quote:
>I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
>fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
>which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
>fast they are bowling?
>If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

Well this classification is what I call "country dependent". As you will
see the terms mean quite different things in India.

In Descending order of speed:

Rest of the World                                                        
     India
--------------------------                                                
             ----------

1. Fast                                                                  
Extinct after Mohammed Nissar.

2. Medium Fast                                                      
Great, stupendous, scorching, unequalled,

   future Hotel owner, columnist, god, MP, will

   date starlets and marry industrilaist's                                
                                                           daughter.

3. Medium                                                              
Deadly, lethal, fierce, match winner,

   Pride of Bombay/TN/Delhi/wherever,

   Future captain, Miandad's favorite target

4. Medium Fast                                                      
Genuine ***, deadly seamer,

   potential match winner, future selector,

   will marry a model/actress.

5. Military Medium                                                  
Potential genuine ***, honest to goodness                            
                                                 trier, future captain,
UAE Coach, flunkey to

   future MP, will be linked to failed starlets.

6. Fast/Flat spinner                                                
Evolving Paceman, thinking bowler, Bengal                                
                                                  Ranji Captain, full time
Yes man, future                                                          
                             manager, will write many articles/a book

   acknowledging debt to SMG/Kapil.

7. Failed county/shell shield bowler                           nagging,
accurate, penetrative...will set a world

   FC record against J & K, will help Arun Lal                            
                                                      beat Gaekwad's
record. Future Cong-I fund                                                
                                    raiser.

8.       ???                                                              
Madan lal, Suru Nayak, Eknath Solkar,                                    
                                                   Kulkarni, TA Shekar,
God help us all.

BTW Denniss lillee at various times in his career has passed through most
of categories 1 to 7 (on the left). It is rumored though that Miandad,
Zaheer Abbas and Co. continued to prefer the Ghavris and Chetan Sharmas.

ravi (with 5 more Mohalis we would have a team of Dravids and Srinaths
that could take the battle to any world test side while just one more
Dalmiya will send us to the bottom with UAE) aron.

 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by S Jagadi » Fri, 11 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> fast they are bowling?
> If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

> Maghin Tamilarasan


I read a hilarious posting ard a year ago or so where INdia's bowlers were
rated into fast, fast medium, medium fast, medium, slow medium, military medium
and the like ... any1 got a copy of it ?

--

Nanyang Technological University
Mayajaal : http://www2.ntu.ac.sg:8000/~sf918168/mayajaal.html

 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by Ravi Ar » Sat, 12 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Subject: Re: medium fast or fast medium

Date: 10 Apr 1997 22:33:55 GMT

Maghin Tamilarasan asks:

Sorry, my mail editor garbled the formatting last time. Hopefully it will
work this ime around.

Quote:
>I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
>fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
>which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
>fast they are bowling?
>If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

Well this classification is what I call "country dependent". As you will
see the terms mean quite different things in India.

In Descending order of speed:

Rest of the World                                                        
               India
--------------------------                                                
                      ----------

1. Fast                                                                
Extinct after Mohammed Nissar.

2. Medium Fast                                                     Great,
stupendous, scorching, unequalled,

 future Hotel owner, columnist, god, MP, will

 date starlets and marry industrilaist's daughter

3. Medium                                                            
Deadly, lethal, fierce, match winner,                                    
                                                       Pride of
Bombay/TN/Delhi/wherever,

 Future captain, Miandad's favorite target

4.  Fast Medium                                                    Genuine
***, deadly seamer,

potential match winner, future selector,

 will marry a model/actress.

5. Military Medium                                              
Potential genuine ***, honest to

goodness trier, future captain,UAE Coach,                                
                                                   flunkey to future MP,
will be linked

 to failed starlets.

6. Fast/Flat spinner                                              
Evolving Paceman, thinking bowler, Bengal                                
                                                 Ranji Captain, full time
Yes man, future

manager, will write many articles/a book

acknowledging debt to SMG/Kapil.

7. Failed county/shell shield bowler                       nagging,
accurate, penetrative...will set a world

FC record against J & K, will help Arun Lal

beat Gaekwad's record. Future Cong-I fund

raiser.

8.       ???                                                        
Madan lal, Suru Nayak, Eknath Solkar,

Kulkarni, TA Shekar,God help us all.

BTW Denniss lillee at various times in his career has passed through most
of categories 1 to 7 (on the left). It is rumored though that Miandad,
Zaheer Abbas and Co. continued to prefer the Ghavris and Chetan Sharmas.

ravi (with 5 more Mohalis we would have a team of Dravids and Srinaths
that could take the battle to any world test side while just one more
Dalmiya will send us to the bottom with UAE) aron.

 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by Colin Lo » Sat, 12 Apr 1997 04:00:00


: >
: > I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
: > fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
: > which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
: > fast they are bowling?
: > If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.
:
: I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
: "medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

It not a good/accurate way of describing speed but Medium Fast is slow the
Fast Medium (at least everywhere I've seen it used).
Here is the order as I understand  it

Fast
Fast (Medium)
Medium (Fast)
Medium

If they every use brackets people might be less confused. Lets hope I've
started something. Generally a fast medium would imply a fastish medium.

Colin

 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by Mark Wilso » Sat, 12 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:



> : >
> : > I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> : > fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> : > which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> : > fast they are bowling?
> : > If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.
> :
> : I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
> : "medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

> It not a good/accurate way of describing speed but Medium Fast is slow the
> Fast Medium (at least everywhere I've seen it used).
> Here is the order as I understand  it

> Fast
> Fast (Medium)
> Medium (Fast)
> Medium

> If they every use brackets people might be less confused. Lets hope I've
> started something. Generally a fast medium would imply a fastish medium.

> Colin

I personally think that commentators subscribe the Feyeraband's
"Anarchistic Theory of Knowledge" and chop and change whenever they feel
like it. I think "fast-medium" should be quicker than "medium fast" but,
hell, there is no authority for either of them.

Cheers
MArk

 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by Joe Croo » Sat, 12 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:



> : >
> : > I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> : > fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> : > which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> : > fast they are bowling?
> : > If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.
> :
> : I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
> : "medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

> It not a good/accurate way of describing speed but Medium Fast is slow the
> Fast Medium (at least everywhere I've seen it used).
> Here is the order as I understand  it

> Fast
> Fast (Medium)
> Medium (Fast)
> Medium

> If they every use brackets people might be less confused. Lets hope I've
> started something. Generally a fast medium would imply a fastish medium.

> Colin

Ok, now what is FAST, FAST(MEDIUM), MEDIUM(FAST), MEDIUM, etc ?
Is 100Km/h fast or fast(medium), or, medium(fast), ?
Someone was commenting Gillespie bowled VERY FAST at 141Km/h against RSA.
Could someone care to explain these rating into some physical units.
Thanks, Joe C.
 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by Damon Jone » Thu, 17 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> > I was wondering how exactly bowlers are classified as being medium fast,
> > fast medium or fast? Is it just on the speed at which they bowl? If so
> > which is faster, medium fast or fast medium, and also, who works out how
> > fast they are bowling?
> > If you could enlighten me as to the above I would be grateful.

> I remember during the world cup 1983 , BBC commentators coined a new term
> "medium slow" when they were referring Balwinder Singh Sandhu.

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***** Medium Slow exists, only the tv companies are usually too polite too
call someone that, so they just call them Medium.
        Fast Medium is quicker than medium fast.
It goes:

        Slow (spinners i guess)
        Slow-Medium (dodgy spinners like Derik Underwood but then all
                    all spinners are just referred to as offbreak,
                    legbreak or slow-left-arm)
        Medium-Slow - people like Thorpe, Cronje, Astle.
        Medium      - Mark Ealham of England, Greg Blewett, Steve Waugh
        Medium-Fast - Craig White, probably mark waugh
        Fast-Medium - all the england seamers. Plus loads of others
        Fast - Younis, Wasim, Donald, Devon Malcolm, Maybe Srinath too.

Hope that answers your questions.!

 
 
 

medium fast or fast medium

Post by Maghin Tamilarasa » Fri, 25 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Ok, now what is FAST, FAST(MEDIUM), MEDIUM(FAST), MEDIUM, etc ?
> Is 100Km/h fast or fast(medium), or, medium(fast), ?
> Someone was commenting Gillespie bowled VERY FAST at 141Km/h against RSA.
> Could someone care to explain these rating into some physical units.
> Thanks, Joe C.

This was the point I was trying to make when I started this thread. As
can be seen by the responses, there seems to be no clear agreement as to
the classifications for a pace bowler, nor does there seem to be any
logic to the way they are classified, other than people's intuition and
gut feeling.

Maghin