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The way Karthik has performed in the last few one dayers in the Under-19
world cup, it seems Prithiv's days are numbered.

Good for India.

Don't you think Karthik is too old to be the Indian keeper ?
And too experienced also - 9 FC Matches.

Yes!  Karthik has batted well.  How good is his keeping?

DB.

I heard people were saying he is very good.

People also said Parthiv Patel is very good.

In fact you yourself said it here
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Rx6g8.28438%24it5.4235632%40news...

I think anyone under the age of 25 shouldn't even be considered.

Gafoor,

Yes, he was good when he was playing under-19. But he is unable to fulfil
the promises showed while playing under-19 and Karthik is doing good right
now.

If Karthik is better than Parthiv then why not? Karthik is also representing
Karnataka..

Thanks

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Rx6g8.28438%24it5.4235632%40news...

Where's AKane, when you really need him?

--
Shripathi Kamath

Do you think there is even the slightest chance that the reason for this
was because he was selected in the test team without much first class
experience ?

To prevent him also from not being able to fulfil the promised he is
showing while playing U-19.

U-19 is different from Test Matches. It's stupid & silly to select
someone into the test team on the basis of U-19 performances,
especially when it's U-19 Limited Over games.

I think there is since not everyone is Tendulkar and can be a prodigy.

Yes you are right and we should wait till he proves himself while playing
for Karnataka or India-A.

But we should replace Patel and send him to domestic circuit.

He's doing well with the bat right now - but then lots of people are. Shikar
Dhawan is doing brilliantly with the bat, and he hasnt even broken into the
Delhi team yet - and wont till next year, because Delhi didnt come close to
even making the semis of the Ranji Trophy. Karthik is a good prospect, but as
of the moment we have no idea if his batting is near good enough even for fc
cricket, leave alone test cricket (his fc average is about 25 IIRC).

Also, BTW, we have no real reports on if his keeping has been good. Yesterday
at the start of the innings for example, he let 4 byes thru his legs from a
medium--pacer  - if that had happened in international cricket we would never
have heard the end of it from journalists or on rsc. But its U19 cricket, so
kids are allowed to make mistakes. As they should be.

No he isnt, he's representing Tamil Nadu. If he was from Karnataka he probably
wouldnt be playing first-class cricket yet - they have a couple of keepers they
like, and Karthik would probably still be on the bench for them. He plays for
TN - but even so, last year when it came to the Ranji finals, TN decided to go
with a more experienced player over him (despite the fact that he had played a
couple of smaller games for TN last year already). Its early days yet for him -
no real urgency. There should have been no urgency for Parthiv either, except
the situation got to be desperate - it really isnt *that* bad now (for one
thing, someone like MSK Prasad is fit and playing decently now, he was injured
and not playing when things were in bad shape a year or so ago).

Sadiq [ none of the U19s deserve promotion yet ] Yusuf

Nope, TN.

CiL
Who saw him keep for a few hours at chepauk in a match against Assam.

He has the same disease. Cant catch anything that comes below the knees.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:11:59 +0530, "Ramakrishnan G"

I am telling you, the new & Improved Dasgupta is out best bet..!

Unfortunately that day I didnt see him keep to spinners (the tour game
in Aus telecasted live) but his keeping to pace was real good and
Aravind (where is he nowadays?) said that he had read reports which
said he kept really well against spin as well.
somebody needs to see this guy keep now and comment.  I am sure that
selectors are keeping a close eye on him, if not them, Telegraph India
will definitely do and let them know..!
seriously though, one needs to know how he is keeping nowadays, just
not trash the young man based on his past and if he is good now and
keeps well to spinners and pace, get him in.

Dinesh Karthik should play more seasons for TN, let him win a ranji
trophy for TN! , hone his skill further, get physically stronger and
then we shall consider him for the international arena.

tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

Is this the new and Improved Dasgupta who was out for a duck against
England A today, then?

Cheers,

Mike

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:16:54 +0000, Mike Holmans

Arrgjh... I meant his keeping and anyway I saw him bat in that tour
game in Aus and he was real good, better than chopra during the period
of his stay on that bouncy track against Tait and others. had written
this that point of time
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Again junta here have not seen Dasgupta keep recently  and just keep
throwing rubbish at him, I saw him in the tour game and can tell u
this much, he also has really improved ( I didnt see him keeping to
spin, but only to pace) plus his batting was good, yes he got out but
during the time he stayed in there with Chopra, he looked the better
and more assured of the two. Chopra had probs (in the last tour game)
with the extra bounce of the ball from the good length and was going
forward with his hands very low and was getting knocked high on the
bat or gloves from the ones kicking off from good lenght. Dasgupta was
more assured and handled them with aplomb and finally ended up getting
out when he suddenly against run of play played a across the line shot
to a fuller one and was trapped.

I am not saying DG is better bat than Chopra, no no but to just to
keep the image of him from the old times and say he has not imprioved
say in his keeping despite whatever Rod Marsh says is all rubbish. If
u say from what I saw him last, then that qualification is fine but to
say he cant have improved is nonsense. I saw his keeping and can say
that it has improved to pace.  
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My main worry or area of concern is how he is keeping to spin and also
to pace, is he consistenly good nowadays,  All I am saying is dont
diss the poor fellow based on his past, lets see how he is keeping
nowadays and ofcourse the batting and take a call. Not many in India,
the fans ie Mike are willing to give him that time, cos the junta have
not seen him keep recently, hence I am waiting to read recent reports
but cricket journo of domestic coverage is so ***ed up that they dont
do proper justice to these areas, basically I should be in that
field..:-)