Had Lara been left out of this team though, WI would now be 180 all
out at best.
Hinds and Chanderpaul played very well indeed for their 30s, but this
is a pitch on which the bounce is very unpredictable already. It's not
spitting really viciously, so the batsmen aren't in physical danger,
but it's very difficult to pick up what shot to play from the apparent
length.
I don't think there's another batsman in the world who could have got
the runs Lara did today: you'd back a Kallis or a Dravid to have
survived it, but they'd be on 73* and feeling that they'd done pretty
well, not 159*. I don't know what the Australian batsmen would have
done, but we'd already be inundated with posts from Alvey calling for
the removal of Port of Spain from the Test match circuit.
Cheers,
Mike
Australian batsmen who could have done something similar: Ponting,
Hayden (in form), Langer, Gilchrist, maybe Martyn (given his
performance at Melbourne last year). That's why they're great, and
everyone else, bar Lara, is an also-ran.
Aditya
>> I don't think there's another batsman in the world who could have got
>> the runs Lara did today: you'd back a Kallis or a Dravid to have
>> survived it, but they'd be on 73* and feeling that they'd done pretty
>> well, not 159*. I don't know what the Australian batsmen would have
>> done, but we'd already be inundated with posts from Alvey calling for
>> the removal of Port of Spain from the Test match circuit.
>It's the sort of knock I was hoping for from Tendulkar on the last day
>of the recent Bangalore Test, but hardly expecting. The difference is
>that with Lara, you can expect it and not be disappointed 99 times out
>of 100.
>Australian batsmen who could have done something similar: Ponting,
>Hayden (in form), Langer, Gilchrist, maybe Martyn (given his
>performance at Melbourne last year). That's why they're great, and
>everyone else, bar Lara, is an also-ran.
Cheers,
Mike
Dravid very rarely scores when everybody else around him is falling.
Only 3 times in his career has RD scored 50 in a completed inning
when no one else has scored a 50 (1 of this 3 is a 100).
More info found here
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/c8519d37080...
> Cheers,
> Mike
Among the Indians, Tendulkar is most likely to make batting look easy
on a difficult wicket.
s.
> Even forgetting the strokes or the strike rate, I wouldn't really
back
> Dravid to do a boy on the burning deck.
> Dravid very rarely scores when everybody else around him is falling.
> Only 3 times in his career has RD scored 50 in a completed inning
> when no one else has scored a 50 (1 of this 3 is a 100).
> More info found here
Since you've found that old thread, you should read Shripathi's
evisceration (Marathi translation: gaand phataila) of your BS theory in
that thread, and the multitude of times people have told you how flawed
it is subsequently.
And the BOBD idea is not just to do with past accomplishment. Bar the
167, no-one would have expected VVSL to do it at Kolkata, but he did.
It takes an innings like that to make someone's name. Tendulkar hasn't
done it to win India a match, and Lara has done it several times, which
is the difference between a great player and a gifted player with
flawed temperament.
Aditya
Try to make your biases less obvious, Samir.
Aditya
Try to make your biases less obvious, Samir.
Aditya
> >Australian batsmen who could have done something similar: Ponting,
> >Hayden (in form), Langer, Gilchrist, maybe Martyn (given his
> >performance at Melbourne last year). That's why they're great, and
> >everyone else, bar Lara, is an also-ran.
> I'm not convinced. That lot didn't do very well on similar pitches
> against the likes of Caddick and Harmison, so I don't see why they'd
> do well on this one against this attack.
Aditya
snip irrelevant
alvey
in brish, thinking about forming a Chardonnay CC.
> Among the Indians, Tendulkar is most likely to make batting look easy
> on a difficult wicket.
alveu
>> On 8 Apr 2005 16:13:29 -0700, "Aditya Basrur"
>> >Australian batsmen who could have done something similar: Ponting,
>> >Hayden (in form), Langer, Gilchrist, maybe Martyn (given his
>> >performance at Melbourne last year). That's why they're great, and
>> >everyone else, bar Lara, is an also-ran.
>> I'm not convinced. That lot didn't do very well on similar pitches
>> against the likes of Caddick and Harmison, so I don't see why they'd
>> do well on this one against this attack.
>Because they have the talent and temperament to do so. Unlike a certain
>Tendulkar (who has the talent, but not the temperament). Mine's a
>prospective evaluation, rather than anything historically based - they
>seem to have solid enough techniques, particularly the Western
>Australians, to prosper on any sort of track. I think they *could* have
>done something similar - whether they *will* (or would have?) is
>another issue entirely.
Australians tend to think of poor pitches as appalling natural
disasters which should really lead to the match being called off
rather than as natural hazards which any professional player ought to
be capable of dealing with. People like Langer and Hayden with
extensive experience in English domestic cricket are probably somewhat
better able to cope than those like Ponting, Martyn and Gilchrist who
have virtually zero experience on bad wickets, but Bradman played
quite a bit in England and never mastered poor pitches either.
Cheers,
Mike
s.
Poor pitches make the game interesting so long as there is no advantage
to a team on account of the toss.
1. Looking back at the old (not so old) times.
5. SRT in finals - Same old story
6. SRT - Same old Story...contd
7. Dhawan in Finals/SF ... Same old story continued
9. One rule for India and a different rule for Australia - Same Old Story
10. Same old story continues for Indians in Australia ....
11. Aussie media-Old story but balanced one
12. same old story
13. Same old story!