'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by Moha » Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:21:34


http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ipl/content/story/337402.html
Q: Finally, how will IPL, being essentially an event of the BCCI, help
Indian cricket?

A: There are many firsts. For the first time, we [in India] have a
Twenty20 format for our fans, based for the first time on a city versus
city basis. It will be the first time that international players will be
participating in a domestic league, and also the first time that
corporates are directly involved.

A domestic event in India will be covered globally, and our youngsters
will be able to play with the world's best, show their skills and also
learn, with the best coaches and support staff to help them improve
their game. A minimum of 32 under-22 players will be part of the teams.
They will get noticed if they perform and this will speed up their
progress towards representing the country. The money IPL makes will help
improve infrastructure.

Our franchises all have a will to win and will over the years start
academies and spend time in developing talent. Support staff will also
benefit. Last but not the least, it will be best for the cricket
enthusiasts around the globe. They will get to see some remarkable
cricket and spectators at the ground will have great experience.

'My team, my city' is our final objective. If we able to build on that
over the next few years we will have something that will revolutionise
cricket - the way it's played, watched or followed.

Mohan

 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by linu » Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:23:49


Quote:
> http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ipl/content/story/337402.html
> Q: Finally, how will IPL, being essentially an event of the BCCI, help
> Indian cricket?

> A: There are many firsts. For the first time, we [in India] have a
> Twenty20 format for our fans, based for the first time on a city versus
> city basis. It will be the first time that international players will be
> participating in a domestic league, and also the first time that
> corporates are directly involved.

> A domestic event in India will be covered globally, and our youngsters
> will be able to play with the world's best, show their skills and also
> learn, with the best coaches and support staff to help them improve
> their game. A minimum of 32 under-22 players will be part of the teams.
> They will get noticed if they perform and this will speed up their
> progress towards representing the country. The money IPL makes will help
> improve infrastructure.

> Our franchises all have a will to win and will over the years start
> academies and spend time in developing talent. Support staff will also
> benefit. Last but not the least, it will be best for the cricket
> enthusiasts around the globe. They will get to see some remarkable
> cricket and spectators at the ground will have great experience.

> 'My team, my city' is our final objective. If we able to build on that
> over the next few years we will have something that will revolutionise
> cricket - the way it's played, watched or followed.

> Mohan

I am sure it will be a success in India, but I am not sure if it will
attract that much interest elswhere initially. It is a version of the
game dumbed down to the level of baseball. I don't know how being good
at 20-20 will make you a better test player.

 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by Moha » Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:04:28

<snip>

Quote:
> I am sure it will be a success in India, but I am not sure if it will
> attract that much interest elswhere initially.

It is an Indian league played between Indian cities. I don't expect it
to be a success elsewhere, not that elsewhere matters much anyway.

Quote:
> It is a version of the
> game dumbed down to the level of baseball. I don't know how being good
> at 20-20 will make you a better test player.

Again, that's another thing that won't matter in a few years.

Mohan

 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by Chan » Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:52:09


Quote:

> <snip>

> > I am sure it will be a success in India, but I am not sure if it will
> > attract that much interest elswhere initially.

> It is an Indian league played between Indian cities. I don't expect it
> to be a success elsewhere, not that elsewhere matters much anyway.

Agreed; if there is as much money in it as appears to be the case,
then the IPL could become to India what the NFL is to the US, and what
happens (or doesn't) in other countries would be irrelevant. The
Indian economy and population size can easily sustain a venture like
this.

- Chan

 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by linu » Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:52:16


Quote:


> > <snip>

> > > I am sure it will be a success in India, but I am not sure if it will
> > > attract that much interest elswhere initially.

> > It is an Indian league played between Indian cities. I don't expect it
> > to be a success elsewhere, not that elsewhere matters much anyway.

> Agreed; if there is as much money in it as appears to be the case,
> then the IPL could become to India what the NFL is to the US, and what
> happens (or doesn't) in other countries would be irrelevant. The
> Indian economy and population size can easily sustain a venture like
> this.

> - Chan

It depends on what the Indians do with the whole concept. NFL in
America is sustained not by the game itself but by the over the top
marketing and merchandising. The coporate interests drive everything
there and to do that elsewhere you need commercial interests with very
deep pockets who will have to hold their nerves and absorb financial
losses intially. Are the indians involved up to that task? I have no
idea.
 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by outsourcingbusin.. » Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:48:59


Quote:
> http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ipl/content/story/337402.html
> Q: Finally, how will IPL, being essentially an event of the BCCI, help
> Indian cricket?

> A: There are many firsts. For the first time, we [in India] have a
> Twenty20 format for our fans, based for the first time on a city versus
> city basis. It will be the first time that international players will be
> participating in a domestic league, and also the first time that
> corporates are directly involved.

> A domestic event in India will be covered globally, and our youngsters
> will be able to play with the world's best, show their skills and also
> learn, with the best coaches and support staff to help them improve
> their game. A minimum of 32 under-22 players will be part of the teams.
> They will get noticed if they perform and this will speed up their
> progress towards representing the country. The money IPL makes will help
> improve infrastructure.

> Our franchises all have a will to win and will over the years start
> academies and spend time in developing talent. Support staff will also
> benefit. Last but not the least, it will be best for the cricket
> enthusiasts around the globe. They will get to see some remarkable
> cricket and spectators at the ground will have great experience.

> 'My team, my city' is our final objective. If we able to build on that
> over the next few years we will have something that will revolutionise
> cricket - the way it's played, watched or followed.

> Mohan

One of two things will happen. Either the HUGE HYPE being generated
will not be sustained and some people will lose money in the long run.
OR   IPL will become a success and world cricket will suffer. That is
the boards of the other countries will suffer. ICC will become a non
entity and far less powerful than what it is even today and BCCI"s
hold over world cricket will become much stronger. World Cricket as we
know it will cease to exist. (or at least not be as prevalent).
Whether that is a good thing is anybody's guess.
 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by Moha » Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:25:41

Quote:

> OR   IPL will become a success and world cricket will suffer. That is
> the boards of the other countries will suffer. ICC will become a non
> entity and far less powerful than what it is even today and BCCI"s
> hold over world cricket will become much stronger. World Cricket as we
> know it will cease to exist. (or at least not be as prevalent).
> Whether that is a good thing is anybody's guess.

Why isn't it a good thing?
 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by outsourcingbusin.. » Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:02:46


Quote:

> > OR ? IPL will become a success and world cricket will suffer. That is
> > the boards of the other countries will suffer. ICC will become a non
> > entity and far less powerful than what it is even today and BCCI"s
> > hold over world cricket will become much stronger. World Cricket as we
> > know it will cease to exist. (or at least not be as prevalent).
> > Whether that is a good thing is anybody's guess.

> Why isn't it a good thing?

If BCCI's hold over world cricket becomes even more it can never be a
good thing. Whether it is BCCI or any body. The fact that this will be
worse is because it may happen at the COST of the other boards. This
is my belief. IMHO it can never be good for cricket. So, I firmly
believe that one of two things will happen as I mentioned above.
Either IPL makes money and becomes powerful (and it can only do so by
***izing other forms of cricket). OR they lose money. In which
case the status quo will continue.

But since ICL belongs to some other group ICL becoming acceptable can
only help cricket. For India to improve its quality of cricket (not
just money coming in) there needs to be competition within the system.
Such a thing can only happen if ICL starts to get more sponsorship and
money. If IPL becomes popular and a big money spinner not only will
the hold of the BCCI become absolute within India (as it already is)
but will become even more in world cricket. And as I mentioned above
in this particular case it will happen at the cost of the other
boards. There is a limited amount of money available for cricket
advertising. As large as India's market is NO MARKET IS UNLIMITED.
Therefore, for IPL to succeed with the amount of money these big
corporates are spending they can only make money by digging into the
pie of world cricket. BCCI may lose revenue as well from its test
matches and one day games but this will be made up (10 times over) by
its profit in IPL. However, the other boards will suffer.

So, in conclusion one of two things will happen. Either IPL will lose
money which I believe would be the best thing for world cricket (Only
bad for those corporates who lost money). OR IPL becomes a big money
spinner at the cost of the other boards in world cricket. I for one
hope the former happens and not the latter.

 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by Moha » Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:20:45

Quote:

>> Why isn't it a good thing?

> If BCCI's hold over world cricket becomes even more it can never be a
> good thing. Whether it is BCCI or any body.

Why? ICC at present has complete hold over world cricket, but I don't
see you complaining. BCCI/IPL will replace ICC, the franchises will
replace the various boards. So I don't see what is so bad for cricket.
If anything it will be better, because unlike the present situation,
each board won't have a captive market based on nationality. Franchises
will either have to produce a competitive team or get out of business.

Quote:
> But since ICL belongs to some other group ICL becoming acceptable can
> only help cricket. For India to improve its quality of cricket (not
> just money coming in) there needs to be competition within the system.

That is the kind of competition you will see between IPL franchisees.

Quote:
> Such a thing can only happen if ICL starts to get more sponsorship and
> money. If IPL becomes popular and a big money spinner not only will
> the hold of the BCCI become absolute within India (as it already is)
> but will become even more in world cricket. And as I mentioned above
> in this particular case it will happen at the cost of the other
> boards.

Yes. In the place of those boards we will have franchises for Melbourne,
Sydney, Jo'burg, Manchester, etc.

Mohan

 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by outsourcingbusin.. » Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:38:27


Quote:

> >> Why isn't it a good thing?

> > If BCCI's hold over world cricket becomes even more it can never be a
> > good thing. Whether it is BCCI or any body.

> Why? ICC at present has complete hold over world cricket, but I don't
> see you complaining. BCCI/IPL will replace ICC, the franchises will
> replace the various boards. So I don't see what is so bad for cricket.
> If anything it will be better, because unlike the present situation,
> each board won't have a captive market based on nationality. Franchises
> will either have to produce a competitive team or get out of business.

> > But since ICL belongs to some other group ICL becoming acceptable can
> > only help cricket. For India to improve its quality of cricket (not
> > just money coming in) there needs to be competition within the system.

> That is the kind of competition you will see between IPL franchisees.

> > Such a thing can only happen if ICL starts to get more sponsorship and
> > money. If IPL becomes popular and a big money spinner not only will
> > the hold of the BCCI become absolute within India (as it already is)
> > but will become even more in world cricket. And as I mentioned above
> > in this particular case it will happen at the cost of the other
> > boards.

> Yes. In the place of those boards we will have franchises for Melbourne,
> Sydney, Jo'burg, Manchester, etc.

> Mohan

That may well be but the money those franchises make may not be enough
to compensate for the cannibilazation that takes place if test cricket
and one day were to dissappear in the next 10 to 15 years. For India
is the main market so their domestic IPL will make millions upon
millions but the domestic leagues in the other countries may not even
make a fraction of that amount. It will be interesting to see what
happens in the next 10 years. I guess time will tell. Let us wait and
see.
 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by Rishi » Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:37:48

Quote:
> I am sure it will be a success in India, but I am not sure if it will
> attract that much interest elswhere initially. It is a version of the
> game dumbed down to the level of baseball. I don't know how being good
> at 20-20 will make you a better test player.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

I have a feeling people may get bored pretty soon, even in India. I
hope I am wrong, with all the money and time they have put into this.
 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by Rishi » Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:59:07


Quote:


> > <snip>

> > > I am sure it will be a success in India, but I am not sure if it will
> > > attract that much interest elswhere initially.

> > It is an Indian league played between Indian cities. I don't expect it
> > to be a success elsewhere, not that elsewhere matters much anyway.

> Agreed; if there is as much money in it as appears to be the case,
> then the IPL could become to India what the NFL is to the US, and what
> happens (or doesn't) in other countries would be irrelevant. The
> Indian economy and population size can easily sustain a venture like
> this.

> - Chan

But if it really popular only in India, I am not sure it is going to
help the Indian economy that much with the salaries they give out to
foreign players. They need atleast some foreign endor***ts if they
don't make too much from TV outside of India.
 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by tendulkar.co » Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:13:47


Quote:



> > > <snip>

> > > > I am sure it will be a success in India, but I am not sure if it will
> > > > attract that much interest elswhere initially.

> > > It is an Indian league played between Indian cities. I don't expect it
> > > to be a success elsewhere, not that elsewhere matters much anyway.

> > Agreed; if there is as much money in it as appears to be the case,
> > then the IPL could become to India what the NFL is to the US, and what
> > happens (or doesn't) in other countries would be irrelevant. The
> > Indian economy and population size can easily sustain a venture like
> > this.

> > - Chan

> But if it really popular only in India, I am not sure it is going to
> help the Indian economy that much with the salaries they give out to
> foreign players. They need atleast some foreign endor***ts if they
> don't make too much from TV outside of India.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Economics 101.

You don't need to export stuff to become wealthy.
If IPL creates profits, the nation itself will become wealthy.

If Microsoft hires Indians for cheap and sell Software only within the
US and generates profit, it is good for the US net wealth

OTOH, if Adobe hires US engineers and only exports software, but makes
a loss, it is not good for the US net wealth

As long as you are making profits, you don't care where you get your
raw materials (Ricky Cheating & Michael Crooke) from.

 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by Rishi » Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:02:43


Quote:




> > > > <snip>

> > > > > I am sure it will be a success in India, but I am not sure if it will
> > > > > attract that much interest elswhere initially.

> > > > It is an Indian league played between Indian cities. I don't expect it
> > > > to be a success elsewhere, not that elsewhere matters much anyway.

> > > Agreed; if there is as much money in it as appears to be the case,
> > > then the IPL could become to India what the NFL is to the US, and what
> > > happens (or doesn't) in other countries would be irrelevant. The
> > > Indian economy and population size can easily sustain a venture like
> > > this.

> > > - Chan

> > But if it really popular only in India, I am not sure it is going to
> > help the Indian economy that much with the salaries they give out to
> > foreign players. They need atleast some foreign endor***ts if they
> > don't make too much from TV outside of India.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> Economics 101.

> You don't need to export stuff to become wealthy.
> If IPL creates profits, the nation itself will become wealthy.

> If Microsoft hires Indians for cheap and sell Software only within the
> US and generates profit, it is good for the US net wealth

> OTOH, if Adobe hires US engineers and only exports software, but makes
> a loss, it is not good for the US net wealth

> As long as you are making profits, you don't care where you get your
> raw materials (Ricky Cheating & Michael Crooke) from.- Hide quoted text -

I don't know much about economics, but it sounds counter-intuitive to
me. If I were to make a guess, people spending might actually give a
false sense of economic growth in the shorter term, but in a case like
this where (assuming) we get 0 foreign investment but spend money to
get foreign players, then local spending would not help the economy at
all. But if you know what you are talking about, I will just take your
word for it.
 
 
 

'IPL will revolutionise the game' - Modi

Post by tendulkar.co » Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:17:42


Quote:





> > > > > <snip>

> > > > > > I am sure it will be a success in India, but I am not sure if it will
> > > > > > attract that much interest elswhere initially.

> > > > > It is an Indian league played between Indian cities. I don't expect it
> > > > > to be a success elsewhere, not that elsewhere matters much anyway.

> > > > Agreed; if there is as much money in it as appears to be the case,
> > > > then the IPL could become to India what the NFL is to the US, and what
> > > > happens (or doesn't) in other countries would be irrelevant. The
> > > > Indian economy and population size can easily sustain a venture like
> > > > this.

> > > > - Chan

> > > But if it really popular only in India, I am not sure it is going to
> > > help the Indian economy that much with the salaries they give out to
> > > foreign players. They need atleast some foreign endor***ts if they
> > > don't make too much from TV outside of India.- Hide quoted text -

> > > - Show quoted text -

> > Economics 101.

> > You don't need to export stuff to become wealthy.
> > If IPL creates profits, the nation itself will become wealthy.

> > If Microsoft hires Indians for cheap and sell Software only within the
> > US and generates profit, it is good for the US net wealth

> > OTOH, if Adobe hires US engineers and only exports software, but makes
> > a loss, it is not good for the US net wealth

> > As long as you are making profits, you don't care where you get your
> > raw materials (Ricky Cheating & Michael Crooke) from.- Hide quoted text -

> I don't know much about economics, but it sounds counter-intuitive to
> me. If I were to make a guess, people spending might actually give a
> false sense of economic growth in the shorter term, but in a case like
> this where (assuming) we get 0 foreign investment but spend money to
> get foreign players, then local spending would not help the economy at
> all. But if you know what you are talking about, I will just take your
> word for it.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

The Wealth of a Nation is determined by how much they produce, not how
many people are employed.

Take extreme cases,
i) Robots does all the human work including maintaining Robots. There
is 100% unemployment, but each person is wealthy
ii) There are One Million Companies hiring every employable person and
every company is making a loss. There is 100% employment, but each
person is poor

Yes, those are idealistic example far in touch with reality. But,
still you should drive towards (i) and not (ii)