Aus-SA line ups

Aus-SA line ups

Post by MILDEN » Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:45:17


How can SA threaten Aus in the WSC when a combined XI would only have 3 SA's -
Gibbs, Kallis and Pollock. 8:3 is probably the odds that Aus have over SA to
win.
Aside from the sheer depth that Aus have, SA is still Aussie's bunny since WC
99 semi. Maybe Rohodes is a possible 4th.
 
 
 

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Post by Will Sutto » Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:32:11

Quote:

> How can SA threaten Aus in the WSC when a combined XI would only have 3 SA's -
> Gibbs, Kallis and Pollock. 8:3 is probably the odds that Aus have over SA to
> win.
> Aside from the sheer depth that Aus have, SA is still Aussie's bunny since WC
> 99 semi. Maybe Rohodes is a possible 4th.

Aussies Definites
Ponting
Hayden
Bevan
McGrath
Warne
Aussie Probables
Gilchrist
Gillespie
Martyn

So Maybe a side like

McGrath
Gibbs
Ponting
Kallis
Bevan
Martyn / Rhodes
Gilly/Boucher
Pollock
Warne
McGrath
Gillespie / Donald

 
 
 

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Post by Ben Gusse » Sun, 08 Dec 2002 16:19:21


Quote:

> So Maybe a side like

> McGrath
> Gibbs
> Ponting
> Kallis
> Bevan
> Martyn / Rhodes
> Gilly/Boucher
> Pollock
> Warne
> McGrath
> Gillespie / Donald

McGrath to McGrath, oohh, four runs that. Great shot by McGrath. And McGrath
is not happy about it.

--
Cheers,
Ben.

 
 
 

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Post by Mad Hami » Sun, 08 Dec 2002 16:58:01


Quote:
>How can SA threaten Aus in the WSC when a combined XI would only have 3 SA's -
>Gibbs, Kallis and Pollock. 8:3 is probably the odds that Aus have over SA to
>win.

Dunno.
I'd imagine that Gilchrist, McGrath and Warne would be absolute
certainties for a combined team.

Bevan probably as well.

That leaves 2 bowling spots, an allrounder and 4 batting spots.

Pollock for a bowling spot, Klusener as the allrounder. Kallis in as a
batsman who can bowl in most matches.

Ponting's done well at #3 in the one dayers so he's probably in.

Gilchrist

Ponting
Kallis

Bevan
Klusener
Pollock
Warne

McGrath

there are a fair few players who could get a run in the other spots.
I'd probably pick Hayden as the 2nd opener but it wouldn't be
unthinkable to pick Gibbs

The Australian middle order isn't exactly cemented at the minute,
Martyn might be a pick but you could make a strong case for a Jonty
and a few other names from RSA would be in the frame, and I'm not that
impressed by what our other bowlers have done in ODOs since the last
world cup.

As another option you could open with Gibbs and Hayden and put Boucher
in down the order. I don't see it happening but...

Looks to me like Aus would have near certainties in 5 positions, RSA
in 3 and with the remaining spots open to a fair amount of discussion.

Quote:
>Aside from the sheer depth that Aus have, SA is still Aussie's bunny since WC
>99 semi. Maybe Rohodes is a possible 4th.

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Stuart Adamson 1958-2001

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Post by Moby » Sun, 08 Dec 2002 18:03:49


[combined Aus/RSA team]

Quote:
> Gilchrist

Given the options, it would have to be Hayden.  Neither of the RSA openers
have done enough to displace the best test batsman in the world (yes, I do
like saying that) and Gilchrist, the obvious odo keeper is an opening odo
bat.

Quote:
> Ponting
> Kallis

Nah, I'd switch them.  Ponting is more versitile than Kallis and I trust him
more after the fall of an early wicket.

Quote:

> Bevan

Should come in as soon as possible after the 20th over.

Quote:
> Klusener

I'd like to see Rhodes in before Klusener.  Is he available?

Quote:
> Pollock
> Warne

> McGrath

I'd have Dale at 10, of course.

This leaves me with a team of

Hayden
Gilchrist
Kallis
Ponting
Bevan (inserted as soon as possible after over 15)
Rhodes
Klusener
Pollock
Warne
Dale
McGrath

Klusener would not get a bowl unless Kallis had problems.  One problem, of
course is a second spinner.  This can be changed by playing Lehmann instead
of Kallis on slow pitches.  Lehmann would bat below Bevan (or above in some
cases) and the other bats would shuffle up.

Moby

 
 
 

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Post by Crickete » Sun, 08 Dec 2002 19:16:06

On present form Ntini would have to be in the team.
 
 
 

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Post by JLichte » Mon, 09 Dec 2002 01:06:53

Quote:




> [combined Aus/RSA team]

> > Gilchrist

> Given the options, it would have to be Hayden.  Neither of the RSA openers
> have done enough to displace the best test batsman in the world (yes, I do
> like saying that) and Gilchrist, the obvious odo keeper is an opening odo
> bat.

> > Ponting
> > Kallis

> Nah, I'd switch them.  Ponting is more versitile than Kallis and I trust him
> more after the fall of an early wicket.

> > Bevan

> Should come in as soon as possible after the 20th over.

> > Klusener

> I'd like to see Rhodes in before Klusener.  Is he available?

> > Pollock
> > Warne

> > McGrath

> I'd have Dale at 10, of course.

> This leaves me with a team of

> Hayden
> Gilchrist
> Kallis
> Ponting
> Bevan (inserted as soon as possible after over 15)
> Rhodes
> Klusener
> Pollock
> Warne
> Dale
> McGrath

> Klusener would not get a bowl unless Kallis had problems.  One problem, of
> course is a second spinner.  This can be changed by playing Lehmann instead
> of Kallis on slow pitches.  Lehmann would bat below Bevan (or above in some
> cases) and the other bats would shuffle up.

Klusener has been known to bowl offspinners in ODI matches.
Hayden is, as you say, the best Test bat in the world. He has lots to
prove as an ODI bat. Not a terrible pick, but right now I'd take Gibbs
ahead of him.
 
 
 

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Post by JLichte » Mon, 09 Dec 2002 01:08:07

Quote:

> On present form Ntini would have to be in the team.

I agree, but ahead of?
In MOby's team, Dale, who cant even make the present Aus side.
Is Ntini good enough to get in ahead of Gillespie?
 
 
 

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Post by Crickete » Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:30:17

Quote:
> I agree, but ahead of?
> In MOby's team, Dale, who cant even make the present Aus side.
> Is Ntini good enough to get in ahead of Gillespie?

In the PwC ratings Ntini is ahead of Gillespie.
 
 
 

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Post by Mang » Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:48:23


Quote:
> How can SA threaten Aus in the WSC when a combined XI would only have 3
SA's -
> Gibbs, Kallis and Pollock. 8:3 is probably the odds that Aus have over SA
to
> win.
> Aside from the sheer depth that Aus have, SA is still Aussie's bunny since
WC
> 99 semi.

They've been Australia's bunny for a long time before that match.

Maybe Rohodes is a possible 4th.

 
 
 

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Post by Moby » Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:20:04


Quote:
> > I agree, but ahead of?
> > In MOby's team, Dale, who cant even make the present Aus side.
> > Is Ntini good enough to get in ahead of Gillespie?

> In the PwC ratings Ntini is ahead of Gillespie.

Being more realistic, I would probably play Ntini.

Moby

 
 
 

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Post by Mad Hami » Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:14:13


Quote:

>Klusener has been known to bowl offspinners in ODI matches.
>Hayden is, as you say, the best Test bat in the world. He has lots to
>prove as an ODI bat. Not a terrible pick, but right now I'd take Gibbs
>ahead of him.

Hayden averages 40 in odos
Gibbs 35.
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