Flaming of SALMAN AZHAR

Flaming of SALMAN AZHAR

Post by Nafis Ahm » Sun, 21 Nov 1993 05:27:22


The flaming of Salman Azhar (and his animated and frequent replies) is but
an exercise in self-righteousness. The piece of mail that caused such ire
was at the most as offensive as many posted earlier on this newsgroup ( ref.
a malicious remark on HazratBal etc.). The reason for it being offensnsive
to some people was its subject line and timing (India's defeat). The fact
that made it more embittering was that Pakistani supporters were chastised for
their teams defeat at Sharjah, and a reciprocation of such provocations was
anticipated.  

The only thing offensive in Salman's original post was a reference to "hindu-
sounding names". The reference to religion was not in good taste, but again
let me maintain that it was'nt the first reference of its kind. So this does
not make Salman Azhar the only bad guy on the net. Salman's mention of "hindu-
sounding names" was at best not an intentional slur on somebody's religious
feelings. I am sure that he intended to refer to "Indian supporters". The
choice of words was injudicious, for which he has already apologized.

Contrary to what people say, I think Salman Azhar generally reflects the
feelings of most Pakistani fans, although I do not agree with his use of the
term "hindu-sounding names". His posts never contain or hint at vulgarity,
which we cannot sadly say for some people frequenting this newsgroup.

I maintain that Salman Azhar is one of the more rational writers on this
newsgroup, and I hope he continues to write in his debonair style.

NA

 
 
 

Flaming of SALMAN AZHAR

Post by Gurvinder Sareen (Con » Sun, 21 Nov 1993 05:43:21

 (stuff deleted to save BW)
: I maintain that Salman Azhar is one of the more rational writers on this
: newsgroup, and I hope he continues to write in his debonair style.
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:
: NA
:
        May GOD save us!
        I hope Nafis is not an English Professor :-)
        What a definition of "debonair style".

        May RAM, ALLAH, VAHE-GURU, JESUS save us and
        Nafis's hope does not get fulfilled!

Sareen.
Fri Nov 19 12:43:10 PST 1993

 
 
 

Flaming of SALMAN AZHAR

Post by Spaceman Spif » Sun, 21 Nov 1993 18:45:28


Quote:

>a malicious remark on HazratBal etc.). The reason for it being offensnsive
>to some people was its subject line and timing (India's defeat). The fact
>that made it more embittering was that Pakistani supporters were chastised for

                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Quote:
>their teams defeat at Sharjah, and a reciprocation of such provocations was

 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Quote:
>anticipated.

actually azhar brought that chasti***t upon himself by crowing over the
round robin victory over west indies in sharjah, and questioning the ability
of the west indian bowlers to defend a score of 260+ (albeit peppered
with his trademark smileys). what goes around, comes around.
a similar thing happened before the WSC in australia and the 3 nation
tourney in south africa- at least one or two pakistani supporters
trumpeted the superiority of the pakistani team, and saying "we are the
best in the world, we are the world champions" etc. these woofs were
followed by a series of embarrassing performances including 2 or 3 dismissals
for below 100. you have got to be prepared to take the flak when things
like this happen. someone posted Oliver's woofing theorem in rsc a
couple of days back, so you are doubtless aware of the consequences of
woofing. i am sure that you are confident that your team is the best in
the world (or at least in the top two), but it would help no end if
the pakistani supporters held off the celebrations until after the
event. then you can crow to your heart's contents.
on the other hand, i have rarely (if ever) seen a posting by an indian
proclaiming that the indian team is the best etc. for the most part we
tend to savage our selectors/ravi shastri/ w.v. raman etc. we have
repeatedly expressed doubts about the capability of our ODI team (following
series losses to SA, SL and a tie with england). so a poor performance by
the indian team is less surprising than that by a pakistani team. so
azhar's woofing was totally unwarranted.

Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff

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In another time's forgotten space
your eyes looked from your mother's face,
wildflower seed on sand and stone
may the four winds blow you safely home.

 
 
 

Flaming of SALMAN AZHAR

Post by Manish Tu » Tue, 23 Nov 1993 02:48:26

: I maintain that Salman Azhar is one of the more rational writers on this
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Rational..... Salman [I] Azhar ??????????
        Are you crazy!!!!!!!
        I have never seen a more irrational person in m y life.
If you think Bigotry, racism etc is rational..... Then I would recomend you
to a shrink (No smileys added)
        And to think he is a Professor

: newsgroup, and I hope he continues to write in his debonair style.
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                                Gimme a break ............

Manish Tuli

: NA

 
 
 

Flaming of SALMAN AZHAR

Post by Manish Tu » Wed, 24 Nov 1993 04:05:09

        [Stuff deleted about DS[I]A's defense]

        So now DS[I]Q has been canvassing for support. Hey try some
methods like .... say Booth Capturing :)))
Smileys for DS[I]Q :))) :))) :)))

: I maintain that Salman Azhar is one of the more rational writers on this
: newsgroup, and I hope he continues to write in his debonair style.
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This I just cant Digest. Debonair!!!!!!!! Yuch!!!!!!!

Manish Tuli

 
 
 

Flaming of SALMAN AZHAR

Post by vineet ar » Wed, 24 Nov 1993 04:34:35

Did Azhar just break a streak of 50s with his 31
in the match against SA?

Anybody keeping track of how long this streak was?

--Vineet

 
 
 

Flaming of SALMAN AZHAR

Post by Manish Tu » Thu, 25 Nov 1993 03:36:41

: Did Azhar just break a streak of 50s with his 31
: in the match against SA?

        He did Not have a fifty against The west Indies
        He scored around 22(??) I think

        So the streak was already broken

Manish