by Rocky Raccoo » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00
by Nick Mea » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00
a) that an unspecified Indian player had declared $50m during
the tax amnesty (as reported by the tax official being
interviewed).
b) Azhar is one of the Indian players most frequently cited in
match fixing allegations.
I don't think it actually suggested that Azhar was the guy that
had declared the $50m, OR, that if he *was* the one, that he had
earned it through match fixing.
Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were apparently
edited for legal reasons.
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by Alvey Sidecas » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00
>My understanding of the ABC report was that it didn't
>necessarily implicate Azhar as the recipient, but rather drew
>two seperate conclussions:
>a) that an unspecified Indian player had declared $50m during
>the tax amnesty (as reported by the tax official being
>interviewed).
>b) Azhar is one of the Indian players most frequently cited in
>match fixing allegations.
>I don't think it actually suggested that Azhar was the guy that
>had declared the $50m, OR, that if he *was* the one, that he had
>earned it through match fixing.
>Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were apparently
>edited for legal reasons.
Knew I should have taped it. Does the ABC still repeat 4 Corners
on the w/e? If so, check it out.
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by dogma » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00
They definitely name Azhar.
"It has since been shown that (I forget his name)'s 50 million
dollar man is Azhar.."
misquote, but that is the gist of what was said
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by Nick Mea » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00
>They definitely name Azhar.
>"It has since been shown that (I forget his name)'s 50 million
>dollar man is Azhar.."
>misquote, but that is the gist of what was said
>Cheers
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by Nick Mea » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00
>> >My understanding of the ABC report was that it didn't
>> >necessarily implicate Azhar as the recipient, but rather drew
>> >two seperate conclussions:
>> >a) that an unspecified Indian player had declared $50m during
>> >the tax amnesty (as reported by the tax official being
>> >interviewed).
>> >b) Azhar is one of the Indian players most frequently cited
in
>> >match fixing allegations.
>> >I don't think it actually suggested that Azhar was the guy
that
>> >had declared the $50m, OR, that if he *was* the one, that he
had
>> >earned it through match fixing.
>> >Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were apparently
>> >edited for legal reasons.
>> I think you're right Nick. Can't recall Azza being named as
the
>> $50m man.
>> Knew I should have taped it. Does the ABC still repeat 4
Corners
>> on the w/e? If so, check it out.
> I find this really amazing. While most Indian RSCers
> lose no opportunity to bash Azharuddin, most of the
> non-Indian "tribe" jump to his defence. The previous
> two responses in this thread reinforce this feeling.
> Azhar may or may not have fixed matches, but he has
> surely "fixed" most of these cricket lovers from other
> countries !
> A. A. Khan
Having said that... perhaps some Indian posters can explain to
me exactly why he is hated so much? No flame wars or
diatribe... just a simple explanation. Is it the match fixing
accusations, his erratic performances, his personal life, his
personality... what?
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by il_khan.. » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00
> >My understanding of the ABC report was that it didn't
> >necessarily implicate Azhar as the recipient, but rather drew
> >two seperate conclussions:
> >a) that an unspecified Indian player had declared $50m during
> >the tax amnesty (as reported by the tax official being
> >interviewed).
> >b) Azhar is one of the Indian players most frequently cited in
> >match fixing allegations.
> >I don't think it actually suggested that Azhar was the guy that
> >had declared the $50m, OR, that if he *was* the one, that he had
> >earned it through match fixing.
> >Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were apparently
> >edited for legal reasons.
> I think you're right Nick. Can't recall Azza being named as the
> $50m man.
> Knew I should have taped it. Does the ABC still repeat 4 Corners
> on the w/e? If so, check it out.
A. A. Khan
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by paul care » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00
> >> >My understanding of the ABC report was that it didn't
> >> >necessarily implicate Azhar as the recipient, but rather drew
> >> >two seperate conclussions:
> >> >a) that an unspecified Indian player had declared $50m during
> >> >the tax amnesty (as reported by the tax official being
> >> >interviewed).
> >> >b) Azhar is one of the Indian players most frequently cited
> in
> >> >match fixing allegations.
> >> >I don't think it actually suggested that Azhar was the guy
> that
> >> >had declared the $50m, OR, that if he *was* the one, that he
> had
> >> >earned it through match fixing.
> >> >Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were apparently
> >> >edited for legal reasons.
> >> I think you're right Nick. Can't recall Azza being named as
> the
> >> $50m man.
> >> Knew I should have taped it. Does the ABC still repeat 4
> Corners
> >> on the w/e? If so, check it out.
> > I find this really amazing. While most Indian RSCers
> > lose no opportunity to bash Azharuddin, most of the
> > non-Indian "tribe" jump to his defence. The previous
> > two responses in this thread reinforce this feeling.
> > Azhar may or may not have fixed matches, but he has
> > surely "fixed" most of these cricket lovers from other
> > countries !
> > A. A. Khan
> Errmmm... I wasn't jumping to Azhar's defence. I was jumping to
> Four Corner's defence. I thought that they had, perhaps, been
> incorrectly quoted. As it turns out, they DID name Azhar. And
> frankly, if he *has* been match fixing, I'm quite happy to see
> the bastard fry in hell.
'I'm sure he didn't do it because there is no EVIDENCE against
him. I believe the phrase is "innocent till proven guilty".
Familiar with it?'
Good to see consistency all around, as usual
P
by Alvey Sidecas » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00
>> >My understanding of the ABC report was that it didn't
>> >necessarily implicate Azhar as the recipient, but rather drew
>> >two seperate conclussions:
>> >a) that an unspecified Indian player had declared $50m during
>> >the tax amnesty (as reported by the tax official being
>> >interviewed).
>> >b) Azhar is one of the Indian players most frequently cited
in
>> >match fixing allegations.
>> >I don't think it actually suggested that Azhar was the guy
that
>> >had declared the $50m, OR, that if he *was* the one, that he
had
>> >earned it through match fixing.
>> >Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were apparently
>> >edited for legal reasons.
>> I think you're right Nick. Can't recall Azza being named as
the
>> $50m man.
>> Knew I should have taped it. Does the ABC still repeat 4
Corners
>> on the w/e? If so, check it out.
> I find this really amazing. While most Indian RSCers
> lose no opportunity to bash Azharuddin, most of the
> non-Indian "tribe" jump to his defence. The previous
> two responses in this thread reinforce this feeling.
> Azhar may or may not have fixed matches, but he has
> surely "fixed" most of these cricket lovers from other
> countries !
Alvey
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by Moby Dic » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00
> > >> >>http://SportToday.org/
> > >> >My understanding of the ABC report was that it didn't
> > >> >necessarily implicate Azhar as the recipient, but rather drew
> > >> >two seperate conclussions:
> > >> >a) that an unspecified Indian player had declared $50m during
> > >> >the tax amnesty (as reported by the tax official being
> > >> >interviewed).
> > >> >b) Azhar is one of the Indian players most frequently cited
> > in
> > >> >match fixing allegations.
> > >> >I don't think it actually suggested that Azhar was the guy
> > that
> > >> >had declared the $50m, OR, that if he *was* the one, that he
> > had
> > >> >earned it through match fixing.
> > >> >Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were apparently
> > >> >edited for legal reasons.
> > >> I think you're right Nick. Can't recall Azza being named as
> > the
> > >> $50m man.
> > >> Knew I should have taped it. Does the ABC still repeat 4
> > Corners
> > >> on the w/e? If so, check it out.
> > > I find this really amazing. While most Indian RSCers
> > > lose no opportunity to bash Azharuddin, most of the
> > > non-Indian "tribe" jump to his defence. The previous
> > > two responses in this thread reinforce this feeling.
> > > Azhar may or may not have fixed matches, but he has
> > > surely "fixed" most of these cricket lovers from other
> > > countries !
> > > A. A. Khan
> > Errmmm... I wasn't jumping to Azhar's defence. I was jumping to
> > Four Corner's defence. I thought that they had, perhaps, been
> > incorrectly quoted. As it turns out, they DID name Azhar. And
> > frankly, if he *has* been match fixing, I'm quite happy to see
> > the bastard fry in hell.
> well I'm not jumping to Azhars defence either, but I just thought I'd
> post a quote here:
> 'I'm sure he didn't do it because there is no EVIDENCE against
> him. I believe the phrase is "innocent till proven guilty".
> Familiar with it?'
> Good to see consistency all around, as usual
1) Four Corners' transcripts contain no detail of Azhar as the named man
while the original report did.
2) Four Corners' sources for naming Azhar were reliable and checked.
3) No one in the quoted text above has actually accused Azhar of anything
other than being the international Indian cricketer who declared $50mill
in their tax amnesty income.
You are, once again, confusing every other Australian with the likes of
Paddy, O'Neill and several people named Colin.
Moby***.
The revolution is dead. Long live the revolution.
by paul care » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00
> > > >> >>http://SportToday.org/
> > > >> >My understanding of the ABC report was that it didn't
> > > >> >necessarily implicate Azhar as the recipient, but rather drew
> > > >> >two seperate conclussions:
> > > >> >a) that an unspecified Indian player had declared $50m during
> > > >> >the tax amnesty (as reported by the tax official being
> > > >> >interviewed).
> > > >> >b) Azhar is one of the Indian players most frequently cited
> > > in
> > > >> >match fixing allegations.
> > > >> >I don't think it actually suggested that Azhar was the guy
> > > that
> > > >> >had declared the $50m, OR, that if he *was* the one, that he
> > > had
> > > >> >earned it through match fixing.
> > > >> >Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were apparently
> > > >> >edited for legal reasons.
> > > >> I think you're right Nick. Can't recall Azza being named as
> > > the
> > > >> $50m man.
> > > >> Knew I should have taped it. Does the ABC still repeat 4
> > > Corners
> > > >> on the w/e? If so, check it out.
> > > > I find this really amazing. While most Indian RSCers
> > > > lose no opportunity to bash Azharuddin, most of the
> > > > non-Indian "tribe" jump to his defence. The previous
> > > > two responses in this thread reinforce this feeling.
> > > > Azhar may or may not have fixed matches, but he has
> > > > surely "fixed" most of these cricket lovers from other
> > > > countries !
> > > > A. A. Khan
> > > Errmmm... I wasn't jumping to Azhar's defence. I was jumping to
> > > Four Corner's defence. I thought that they had, perhaps, been
> > > incorrectly quoted. As it turns out, they DID name Azhar. And
> > > frankly, if he *has* been match fixing, I'm quite happy to see
> > > the bastard fry in hell.
> > well I'm not jumping to Azhars defence either, but I just thought I'd
> > post a quote here:
> > 'I'm sure he didn't do it because there is no EVIDENCE against
> > him. I believe the phrase is "innocent till proven guilty".
> > Familiar with it?'
> > Good to see consistency all around, as usual
> You've certainly got a barrow to push haven't you, Paul. While I'm well
> aware of the short-comings of Australian cricket, I think you've pushed it
> a little too hard this time. "Innocent until proven guilty" *is*
> consistant with the approach taken above when you consider:
> 1) Four Corners' transcripts contain no detail of Azhar as the named man
> while the original report did.
> 2) Four Corners' sources for naming Azhar were reliable and checked.
> 3) No one in the quoted text above has actually accused Azhar of anything
> other than being the international Indian cricketer who declared $50mill
> in their tax amnesty income.
> > > frankly, if he *has* been match fixing, I'm quite happy to see
> > > the bastard fry in hell.
> There is the word "if" in there.
> You are, once again, confusing every other Australian with the likes of
> Paddy, O'Neill and several people named Colin.
> Moby***.
> The revolution is dead. Long live the revolution.
P
by -BEN » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00
>> >Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were apparently
>> >edited for legal reasons.
>> I think you're right Nick. Can't recall Azza being named as the
>> $50m man.
-BEN
by samarth harish sha » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00
<snip>
-Samarth.
by Mad Hami » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00
><snip>
>> Yup.
>> Note also the term 'the bastard'.
>Oh, that usually only means, "the genius".
by Nick Mea » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00
>> >> >>http://www.timesofindia.com/today/26cric3.htm
>> >> >My understanding of the ABC report was that it didn't
>> >> >necessarily implicate Azhar as the recipient, but rather
drew
>> >> >two seperate conclussions:
>> >> >a) that an unspecified Indian player had declared $50m
during
>> >> >the tax amnesty (as reported by the tax official being
>> >> >interviewed).
>> >> >b) Azhar is one of the Indian players most frequently
cited
>> in
>> >> >match fixing allegations.
>> >> >I don't think it actually suggested that Azhar was the guy
>> that
>> >> >had declared the $50m, OR, that if he *was* the one, that
he
>> had
>> >> >earned it through match fixing.
>> >> >Of course, I only read the transcripts, which were
apparently
>> >> >edited for legal reasons.
>> >> I think you're right Nick. Can't recall Azza being named as
>> the
>> >> $50m man.
>> >> Knew I should have taped it. Does the ABC still repeat 4
>> Corners
>> >> on the w/e? If so, check it out.
>> > I find this really amazing. While most Indian RSCers
>> > lose no opportunity to bash Azharuddin, most of the
>> > non-Indian "tribe" jump to his defence. The previous
>> > two responses in this thread reinforce this feeling.
>> > Azhar may or may not have fixed matches, but he has
>> > surely "fixed" most of these cricket lovers from other
>> > countries !
>> > A. A. Khan
>> Errmmm... I wasn't jumping to Azhar's defence. I was jumping
to
>> Four Corner's defence. I thought that they had, perhaps, been
>> incorrectly quoted. As it turns out, they DID name Azhar.
And
>> frankly, if he *has* been match fixing, I'm quite happy to see
>> the bastard fry in hell.
>well I'm not jumping to Azhars defence either, but I just
thought I'd
>post a quote here:
>'I'm sure he didn't do it because there is no EVIDENCE against
>him. I believe the phrase is "innocent till proven guilty".
>Familiar with it?'
>P
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