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by **Harish Chandramou** » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

After watching the agonising spectacle of the toothless donkey ambling in
to bowl in the first ODI yesterday, I decided to look up some numbers to
see whether there was any real justification to the desire inherent within
me to have a professional assassin hired to eliminate this abhorrent camel
from the Indian cricket scene once and for all.

And to that end, here follow some stats:

[Last game of the World Cup: India vs NZ]

TGO: 10-0-44-0
JS : 10-0-41-2

Aiwa Cup, SL:

TGO: 5.1-0-37-1
JS: 5-0-26-0

TGO: 10-0-35-0
JS: 10-0-28-0

TGO: 10-0-29-2
JS: 10-1-43-2

TGO: 9-0-59-2 [Last game vs SL: Jayasuriya owes him still...]
JS: 8-0-40-0

Singapore:

TGO: 5-2-17-1
DM: 6-1-28-3

TGO: 10-0-50-0
DM: 8.4-1-33-3

Toronto:

TGO: 8.2-0-38-1
DM: 10-2-31-2

TGO: 9-0-36-0
DM: 10-0-36-1

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Grand Total for TGO: 8 games, 8 wickets, Avg: 38.63 RPO: 4.52
Partners' total combined: 9 games, 13 wickets, Avg: 23.54, RPO: 3.95
-----------------

As I suspected, unfortunately not all that conclusive. But still enough
to suggest that it is not *just* my bias and genuine antipathy for the
man that led me to the conclusion earlier reached.

cheers,

Harish [18 off 14 today, though: perhaps we ought to bat him at #3
instead of Dravid...]

by **Slowhan** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> After watching the agonising spectacle of the toothless donkey ambling in
> to bowl in the first ODI yesterday, I decided to look up some numbers to
> see whether there was any real justification to the desire inherent
within
> me to have a professional assassin hired to eliminate this abhorrent
camel
> from the Indian cricket scene once and for all.

Agreed. He hasn't carried his weight in a long while. Problem is, he
somehow gets a lot of attention when once in a blue moon he picks up a
clutch of wickets in a match. He hasn't even been doing that lately. I
think its about time the extended Prasad experiment was aborted.

Slowhand

by **RoshanC** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Grand Total for TGO: 8 games, 8 wickets, Avg: 38.63 RPO: 4.52
>Partners' total combined: 9 games, 13 wickets, Avg: 23.54, RPO: 3.95

Cant you see, clearly its Prasad's bowling which is making his partner take all
those wickets

Cheers,
Roshan [Everything needs to be explained to this Harish guy]

by **Harish Chandramou** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>>Grand Total for TGO: 8 games, 8 wickets, Avg: 38.63 RPO: 4.52
>>Partners' total combined: 9 games, 13 wickets, Avg: 23.54, RPO: 3.95

That should read 9 and 9, of course.

Quote:

>Cant you see, clearly its Prasad's bowling which is making his partner
>take all those wickets

Very good point, Roshan. In fact, I am ashamed I missed it. Why
thank you, its all as clear as day now. Prasad should not only be
retained for time immemorial, but he should also be encouraged to
do worse and worse. That way, by default the bowlers at the other
end will do better and better, and India might actually become a
cricketing superpower before the new millennium. Gee whiz, how
we miss the obvious at times...

Quote:

>Cheers,
>Roshan [Everything needs to be explained to this Harish guy]

Alas, what can you do. When you're a "consummate cricketing
ignorant", the choices left to you do become rather limited.

cheers,

Harish

by **Harish Chandramou** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>somehow gets a lot of attention when once in a blue moon he picks up a
>clutch of wickets in a match. He hasn't even been doing that lately. I
>think its about time the extended Prasad experiment was aborted.

Unfortunately, somehow or the other, he seems to have been virtually
guaranteed a place in the side, no matter how he performs. Why should
it be a given (as was reported in the press a few days ago) that
Mohanty will be the one to make way when Srinath returns? Why the guy

who not only doesn't even *look* like an opening bowler, but in addition
clearly doesn't have the numbers to back him up?

And its the former quality that frustrates me greatly everytime I
watch him run in to bowl. Here you have kids like Agarkar and Shukla,
who despite really not having the physique for fast bowling, run in
hard and at least *try* and bowl fast...and on the other hand, here
you have this 6 foot 2 wall-like character who seems content to amble
in like a donkey carrying a load, and who shows little or no heart
at any point in his spell.

The one thing all of us who watched the game on Saturday agreed on,
was that Indian cricket needs more players like Mohanty. The guy isn't
much of a talent by any stretch of the imagination, and he doesn't
even have any real pace...but what he does possess in abundance is
plenty of the right attitude and spirit. Even when he gets hit, you
can see that he isn't going to be demoralized right away and is going
to come back and give it all that he's got the very next time
around. What one would do for 11 players like that.

Harish

by **Sridha** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> After watching the agonising spectacle of the toothless donkey ambling in
> to bowl in the first ODI yesterday, I decided to look up some numbers to
> see whether there was any real justification to the desire inherent within
> me to have a professional assassin hired to eliminate this abhorrent camel
> from the Indian cricket scene once and for all.

> And to that end, here follow some stats:

> [Last game of the World Cup: India vs NZ]

too bad you were lodged under some mossy stone until that game.
in the 13 matches prior to that one, prasad had taken 24

Quote:

> TGO: 10-0-44-0
> JS : 10-0-41-2

> Aiwa Cup, SL:

> TGO: 5.1-0-37-1
> JS: 5-0-26-0

> TGO: 10-0-35-0
> JS: 10-0-28-0

> TGO: 10-0-29-2
> JS: 10-1-43-2
<...>
> As I suspected, unfortunately not all that conclusive. But still enough
> to suggest that it is not *just* my bias and genuine antipathy for the
> man that led me to the conclusion earlier reached.

we really believe that.

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Quote:

> Harish [18 off 14 today, though: perhaps we ought to bat him at #3
> instead of Dravid...]

by **Sridha** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> > After watching the agonising spectacle of the toothless donkey ambling in
> > to bowl in the first ODI yesterday, I decided to look up some numbers to
> > see whether there was any real justification to the desire inherent
> within
> > me to have a professional assassin hired to eliminate this abhorrent
> camel
> > from the Indian cricket scene once and for all.

> Agreed. He hasn't carried his weight in a long while. Problem is, he
> somehow gets a lot of attention when once in a blue moon he picks up a
> clutch of wickets in a match.

yeah. azhar gets too much attention when once in a bluemoon he
scores a bunch of runs. who decides how much attention is too much ?
how about some proper reasoning like his inability to bat or his
so-so fielding ?

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Quote:

> He hasn't even been doing that lately. I
> think its about time the extended Prasad experiment was aborted.

> Slowhand

by **Tariq Ahme** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Ho Ho Ho
Sridhar do you expect pseudo-intellects to understand logic.
He has conviniently left those matches to suit his theory.
Slow-brain seems to be***ing his ass these days

T.A

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by **Sridha** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> >somehow gets a lot of attention when once in a blue moon he picks up a
> >clutch of wickets in a match. He hasn't even been doing that lately. I
> >think its about time the extended Prasad experiment was aborted.

> Unfortunately, somehow or the other, he seems to have been virtually
> guaranteed a place in the side, no matter how he performs. Why should
> it be a given (as was reported in the press a few days ago) that
> Mohanty will be the one to make way when Srinath returns? Why the guy

> who not only doesn't even *look* like an opening bowler, but in addition
> clearly doesn't have the numbers to back him up?

> And its the former quality that frustrates me greatly everytime I
> watch him run in to bowl. Here you have kids like Agarkar and Shukla,
> who despite really not having the physique for fast bowling, run in
> hard and at least *try* and bowl fast...
> and on the other hand, here
> you have this 6 foot 2 wall-like character who seems content to amble
> in like a donkey carrying a load, and who shows little or no heart
> at any point in his spell.

you must have been in some musty crevice with your head stuck up
your cloaca when prasad sent sohail packing in wc '96, one ball after
he was smashed thru the covers. or when he claimed 5-30 in wc '99
vs the same enemy. or when he ushered vince wells back to the pavilion
after getting blasted for a straight 6 at sharjah.

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Quote:

> Harish

by **S Jagadis** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

but hey, he does well against pak ! 36 wkts in 23 games at
27/wicket and 4 rpo, isnt that what concerns you most of
the time harish ?

jagadish
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by **Ali Min** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>>somehow gets a lot of attention when once in a blue moon he picks up a
>>clutch of wickets in a match. He hasn't even been doing that lately. I
>>think its about time the extended Prasad experiment was aborted.

> .... criticism of Venkatesh Prasad ....

>And its the former quality that frustrates me greatly everytime I
>watch him run in to bowl. Here you have kids like Agarkar and Shukla,
>who despite really not having the physique for fast bowling, run in
>hard and at least *try* and bowl fast...and on the other hand, here
>you have this 6 foot 2 wall-like character who seems content to amble
>in like a donkey carrying a load, and who shows little or no heart
>at any point in his spell.

I think, Harish, that you're being too *** Prasad. His very
recent form may not be that great, but he has one quality that is
priceless for any Indian bowler: He bowls very well against Pakistan.
I know that when I am watching an India-Pakistan game, the only bowler
I am concerned about is Prasad. He showed that when he was recalled in
the Coca-Cola Cup (or whatever) in India earlier this year and again
in the World Cup. For all his ambling, he can look more dangerous
than any other bowler in the Indian team. He is just inconsistent.

Quote:

>The one thing all of us who watched the game on Saturday agreed on,
>was that Indian cricket needs more players like Mohanty. The guy isn't
>much of a talent by any stretch of the imagination, and he doesn't
>even have any real pace...but what he does possess in abundance is
>plenty of the right attitude and spirit. Even when he gets hit, you
>can see that he isn't going to be demoralized right away and is going
>to come back and give it all that he's got the very next time
>around. What one would do for 11 players like that.

I think Agarkar has fnally laid to rest the myth that cricket (or
any sport) is played on the basis of "heart". Talent is the first
requirement, and then "heart" is a good catalyst. Mohanty, IMO, is
a good bowler, with a decent amount of talent. India should stick
with him and forget about Agarkar and Shukla. Unfortunately, pace
bowling does require *some* physique, and these pups just ain't
up to it. What surprises me is that in all of its 1 billion people,
India can't find one who can bowl fast! Well, I guess Srinath can,
on occasion, so let's make it two.

Ali
--
Ali Minai

by **Slowhan** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> yeah. azhar gets too much attention when once in a bluemoon he
> scores a bunch of runs. who decides how much attention is too much ?
> how about some proper reasoning like his inability to bat or his
> so-so fielding ?

Ehh ? I too agree that Azhar gets too much attention for occasional
performances. I too agree that it is time Azhar hung up his boots. So,
what's your point ?

Who decides how much attention is too much ? Well, who decides if bowling
performances have been good enough to merit a place in the side, for that
matter ?

You want proper reasoning ?
Prasad.
Can't bat.
Can't field.
Can bowl well only once in five matches or so.

Slowhand

by **Slowhan** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> you must have been in some musty crevice with your head stuck up
> your cloaca when prasad sent sohail packing in wc '96, one ball after
> he was smashed thru the covers. or when he claimed 5-30 in wc '99
> vs the same enemy. or when he ushered vince wells back to the pavilion
> after getting blasted for a straight 6 at sharjah.

Yeah, Harish generally only comes out of that musty crevice to watch four
out of every five India matches or so. Coincidentally, these have also been
the matches when Prasad's bowling has looked insipid and uninspiring.

And god, getting Vince Wells out...what a fabulous feat. How could we
forget THAT ??

Slowhand

by **Slowhan** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Ho Ho Ho
> Sridhar do you expect pseudo-intellects to understand logic.
> He has conviniently left those matches to suit his theory.
> Slow-brain seems to be***ing his ass these days

> T.A

Gasp ! Do we have another shridhar on our hands ?!! Or maybe even a Zaki
Khan ?!!

Slowhand [though in fairness, Zaki had more class in his baiting than this
dimwitted insect]

by **Harish Chandramou** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>but hey, he does well against pak ! 36 wkts in 23 games at
>27/wicket and 4 rpo, isnt that what concerns you most of
>the time harish ?

No.

cheers,

Harish

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