Match-fixers records to stay intact says Wisden editor

Match-fixers records to stay intact says Wisden editor

Post by Prakash Melwan » Wed, 16 May 2001 22:32:49


Some relevant quotes from Grame Wright:

1.  ``The more you go into it, the more absurd it becomes. For example,
partnership records by definition involve more than one person, so what
would you do then?

2. ``My one worry in all this is that while Sir Paul Condon is undoubtedly a
competent investigator, I wonder quite how deep his knowledge of cricket is.

3. ``Unfortunately most ICC action tends to be retrospective. One of my
predecessors wrote that when it came to the ICC you could always hear the
sound of horses galloping over the horizon. It would be better if ICC did
something to keep them bolted in the stable.''

Wonder whether point 3 is somehow connected with point 2 because of the
first part of item 1 :-)

Hopefully the voice of sanity will prevail. It would seem in cricket
nowadays that the Wright way is the right way.

Cheers
Prakash

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LONDON, May 15 (AFP) - Players found guilty of match-fixing will still have
their records maintained in Wisden Cricketers' Almanack, the editor of the
game's bible told AFP here Tuesday.

A report in the Sunday Times suggested that Sir Paul Condon, the head of the
International Cricket Council's (ICC) anti-corruption unit, was putting
forward the expunging of records from the game's supreme statistical
authority as one of a number of reccommendations in his first report into
corruption into cricket, due to be made public on May 23.

But Wisden editor Graeme Wright said such a proposal was unworkable. ``From
a Wisden point of view we are utterly opposed to retrospectively altering
records.

``The more you go into it, the more absurd it becomes. For example,
partnership records by definition involve more than one person, so what
would you do then?

``We are not going to be retrospective. About ten years ago ICC said that
matches played on rebel tours in South Africa should no longer be regarded
as first-class. But they were considered so at the time and we did not
change our records. We did not alter our records for political reasons and
we are not going to change them as some kind of punishment for match-fixers.

``My one worry in all this is that while Sir Paul Condon is undoubtedly a
competent investigator, I wonder quite how deep his knowledge of cricket is.

``Cricket statistics are a minefield for those who are well-versed in the
game never mind those on the fringe.''

Wright was also concerned that this retrospective action would not help play
a significant role in preventing match-fixing. ``Unfortunately most ICC
action tends to be retrospective. One of my predecessors wrote that when it
came to the ICC you could always hear the sound of horses galloping over the
horizon.

``It would be better if ICC did something to keep them bolted in the
stable.''

 
 
 

Match-fixers records to stay intact says Wisden editor

Post by Andrew Dunfor » Thu, 17 May 2001 07:18:48


Quote:
> Some relevant quotes from Grame Wright:

> 1.  ``The more you go into it, the more absurd it becomes. For example,
> partnership records by definition involve more than one person, so what
> would you do then?

> 2. ``My one worry in all this is that while Sir Paul Condon is undoubtedly
a
> competent investigator, I wonder quite how deep his knowledge of cricket
is.

> 3. ``Unfortunately most ICC action tends to be retrospective. One of my
> predecessors wrote that when it came to the ICC you could always hear the
> sound of horses galloping over the horizon. It would be better if ICC did
> something to keep them bolted in the stable.''

> Wonder whether point 3 is somehow connected with point 2 because of the
> first part of item 1 :-)

> Hopefully the voice of sanity will prevail. It would seem in cricket
> nowadays that the Wright way is the right way.

So long as the Wright concerned is a New Zealander.

Andrew

 
 
 

Match-fixers records to stay intact says Wisden editor

Post by Rober » Thu, 17 May 2001 15:04:25

Poor excuses/


Quote:
> Some relevant quotes from Grame Wright:

> 1.  ``The more you go into it, the more absurd it becomes. For example,
> partnership records by definition involve more than one person, so what
> would you do then?

> 2. ``My one worry in all this is that while Sir Paul Condon is undoubtedly
a
> competent investigator, I wonder quite how deep his knowledge of cricket
is.

> 3. ``Unfortunately most ICC action tends to be retrospective. One of my
> predecessors wrote that when it came to the ICC you could always hear the
> sound of horses galloping over the horizon. It would be better if ICC did
> something to keep them bolted in the stable.''

> Wonder whether point 3 is somehow connected with point 2 because of the
> first part of item 1 :-)

> Hopefully the voice of sanity will prevail. It would seem in cricket
> nowadays that the Wright way is the right way.

> Cheers
> Prakash

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> -----------------------------------------

> LONDON, May 15 (AFP) - Players found guilty of match-fixing will still
have
> their records maintained in Wisden Cricketers' Almanack, the editor of the
> game's bible told AFP here Tuesday.

> A report in the Sunday Times suggested that Sir Paul Condon, the head of
the
> International Cricket Council's (ICC) anti-corruption unit, was putting
> forward the expunging of records from the game's supreme statistical
> authority as one of a number of reccommendations in his first report into
> corruption into cricket, due to be made public on May 23.

> But Wisden editor Graeme Wright said such a proposal was unworkable.
``From
> a Wisden point of view we are utterly opposed to retrospectively altering
> records.

> ``The more you go into it, the more absurd it becomes. For example,
> partnership records by definition involve more than one person, so what
> would you do then?

> ``We are not going to be retrospective. About ten years ago ICC said that
> matches played on rebel tours in South Africa should no longer be regarded
> as first-class. But they were considered so at the time and we did not
> change our records. We did not alter our records for political reasons and
> we are not going to change them as some kind of punishment for
match-fixers.

> ``My one worry in all this is that while Sir Paul Condon is undoubtedly a
> competent investigator, I wonder quite how deep his knowledge of cricket
is.

> ``Cricket statistics are a minefield for those who are well-versed in the
> game never mind those on the fringe.''

> Wright was also concerned that this retrospective action would not help
play
> a significant role in preventing match-fixing. ``Unfortunately most ICC
> action tends to be retrospective. One of my predecessors wrote that when
it
> came to the ICC you could always hear the sound of horses galloping over
the
> horizon.

> ``It would be better if ICC did something to keep them bolted in the
> stable.''


 
 
 

Match-fixers records to stay intact says Wisden editor

Post by Moby » Thu, 17 May 2001 16:21:05

On Wed, 16 May 2001, Robert submitted to the Inquisition's torture and said:

Quote:
> Poor excuses/

So how do you think Reifer (WI) would feel about no longer having anything
other than a very poor batting record to remember his test days by.  Of
course at the moment he can remember that he ran out the RSA captain when
he was looking dangerous...

Moby.
The revolution is dead.  Long live the revolution.