Best Sub-Continent Eleven Against West Indies

Best Sub-Continent Eleven Against West Indies

Post by Faheem Hay » Sat, 27 Feb 1993 09:17:16


There have been a lot of discussion about the best batsmen in the
world, top five Indian batsmen etc, etc. I thought that I should put
a list of the best TEST eleven among current players from India and
Pakistan to play against the current West Indies in West Indies (since
they are the toughest to beat at home or away).

Here is my eleven in batting order:

1. Rameez Raja          His Record Against Pace is Fairly Good
2. N. Sidhu             Best Among All other Openers From India/Pak
3. Mohammed Azharuddin  Needs No Justification
4. Sachin Tendulkar     Exceptional Young Talent
5. Javed Maindad (C)    Needs No Justification
6. Saleem Malik         Great Player When Gets Going
7. Kapil Dev (VC)       Needs No Justification
8. Wasim Akram          Needs No Justification
9. Rashid Lateef (W)    Excellent Wicket Keeper/Good Batsman
10. Waqar Younis        Needs No Justification
11. Mustaq Ahmed        Arguably the Best Spinner

Reserves:
12. Vinod Kambli
13. Inzamam Ulhaq
14. A. Kumble
15. Aaqib Javed

I think it is a pretty well balanced side to beat West Indies. It has
a right mixture of Youth/Experience. Any opinions on the team or how
will it do in the West Indies ?

Comments Welcome!!!

Faheem Hayat

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Post by Chandrashekar Ramanath » Sat, 27 Feb 1993 11:06:24

Quote:

>There have been a lot of discussion about the best batsmen in the
>world, top five Indian batsmen etc, etc. I thought that I should put
>a list of the best TEST eleven among current players from India and
>Pakistan to play against the current West Indies in West Indies (since
>they are the toughest to beat at home or away).

>Here is my eleven in batting order:

>1. Rameez Raja              His Record Against Pace is Fairly Good
[.....]
>9. Rashid Lateef (W)        Excellent Wicket Keeper/Good Batsman

         How come you left out Kiran More? ;-) ;-)

[......]

Quote:

>Comments Welcome!!!

>Faheem Hayat

Chandrashekar

 
 
 

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Post by Faheem Hay » Sun, 28 Feb 1993 01:00:07


Quote:

>>There have been a lot of discussion about the best batsmen in the
>>world, top five Indian batsmen etc, etc. I thought that I should put
>>a list of the best TEST eleven among current players from India and
>>Pakistan to play against the current West Indies in West Indies (since
>>they are the toughest to beat at home or away).

>>Here is my eleven in batting order:

>>1. Rameez Raja          His Record Against Pace is Fairly Good
>[.....]
>>9. Rashid Lateef (W)    Excellent Wicket Keeper/Good Batsman

>     How come you left out Kiran More? ;-) ;-)

I have seen very little of Kiran More, but what I read from the rsc articles
that he is not a very good keeper. He has dropped many many catches at crucial
times. Is is not true ?

Faheem Hayat

Advanced Micro Device,
Austin, Texas,
U.S.A.

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Post by Mr. Raza Sy » Sun, 28 Feb 1993 01:07:05

|> There have been a lot of discussion about the best batsmen in the
|> world, top five Indian batsmen etc, etc. I thought that I should put
|> a list of the best TEST eleven among current players from India and
|> Pakistan to play against the current West Indies in West Indies (since
|> they are the toughest to beat at home or away).
|>
|> Here is my eleven in batting order:
|>
|> 1. Rameez Raja            His Record Against Pace is Fairly Good
|> 2. N. Sidhu               Best Among All other Openers From India/Pak
|> 3. Mohammed Azharuddin    Needs No Justification
|> 4. Sachin Tendulkar       Exceptional Young Talent
|> 5. Javed Maindad (C)      Needs No Justification
|> 6. Saleem Malik           Great Player When Gets Going
|> 7. Kapil Dev (VC) Needs No Justification
|> 8. Wasim Akram            Needs No Justification
|> 9. Rashid Lateef (W)      Excellent Wicket Keeper/Good Batsman
|> 10. Waqar Younis  Needs No Justification
|> 11. Mustaq Ahmed  Arguably the Best Spinner
|>
|>
|> Reserves:
|> 12. Vinod Kambli
|> 13. Inzamam Ulhaq
|> 14. A. Kumble
|> 15. Aaqib Javed
|>
|> I think it is a pretty well balanced side to beat West Indies. It has
|> a right mixture of Youth/Experience. Any opinions on the team or how
|> will it do in the West Indies ?
|>
|> Comments Welcome!!!

How can you exclude Shoaib from test eleven? i would replace sidhu or Rameez with
shoaib and Malick with Kumble. Inclusion of Kumble will make bowling very versatile.

|>
|>
|> Faheem Hayat
|>
|> Advanced Micro Device,
|> Austin, Texas,
|> U.S.A.

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Post by Faheem Hay » Sun, 28 Feb 1993 05:27:44


Quote:

>|> There have been a lot of discussion about the best batsmen in the
>|> world, top five Indian batsmen etc, etc. I thought that I should put
>|> a list of the best TEST eleven among current players from India and
>|> Pakistan to play against the current West Indies in West Indies (since
>|> they are the toughest to beat at home or away).
>|>
>|> Here is my eleven in batting order:
>|>
>|> 1. Rameez Raja                His Record Against Pace is Fairly Good
>|> 2. N. Sidhu           Best Among All other Openers From India/Pak
>|> 3. Mohammed Azharuddin        Needs No Justification
>|> 4. Sachin Tendulkar   Exceptional Young Talent
>|> 5. Javed Maindad (C)  Needs No Justification
>|> 6. Saleem Malik               Great Player When Gets Going
>|> 7. Kapil Dev (VC)     Needs No Justification
>|> 8. Wasim Akram                Needs No Justification
>|> 9. Rashid Lateef (W)  Excellent Wicket Keeper/Good Batsman
>|> 10. Waqar Younis      Needs No Justification
>|> 11. Mustaq Ahmed      Arguably the Best Spinner
>|>
>|>
>|> Reserves:
>|> 12. Vinod Kambli
>|> 13. Inzamam Ulhaq
>|> 14. A. Kumble
>|> 15. Aaqib Javed
>|>
>|> I think it is a pretty well balanced side to beat West Indies. It has
>|> a right mixture of Youth/Experience. Any opinions on the team or how
>|> will it do in the West Indies ?
>|>
>|> Comments Welcome!!!

>How can you exclude Shoaib from test eleven? i would replace sidhu or Rameez with
>shoaib and Malick with Kumble. Inclusion of Kumble will make bowling very versatile.

Shoiab lately has not played for Pakistan in test cricket and therefore I did
not consider him. Replacing Salim Malik with Kumble would add a fifth specialist
bowler and would weaken the batting side. On the other hand, Salim Malik had
a very successful test series against England last summer (In five test he scored
almost 500 runs at 80.00 odd average).

Faheem Hayat

Advanced Micro Device,
Austin, Texas,
U.S.A.

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Post by Wasiuddin A. Wah » Sun, 28 Feb 1993 07:14:24

I would opt for a fifth bowler instead of Malik. Preferably a pace bowler.
I would also want a reliable opener. Sidhu can hardly be called reliable.
Names like Shoaib or Sohail come to mind.
Any comments are welcome.
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Post by Neeran M. Karn » Sun, 28 Feb 1993 08:29:50


Quote:
>I would opt for a fifth bowler instead of Malik. Preferably a pace bowler.
>I would also want a reliable opener. Sidhu can hardly be called reliable.
>Names like Shoaib or Sohail come to mind.

        Anyone recall a chap called Ravi Shastri ?!?

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Post by Rohan Koduvayur Kri Chandr » Sun, 28 Feb 1993 12:43:33


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>>I would opt for a fifth bowler instead of Malik. Preferably a pace bowler.
>>I would also want a reliable opener. Sidhu can hardly be called reliable.
>>Names like Shoaib or Sohail come to mind.

>    Anyone recall a chap called Ravi Shastri ?!?

Yup...and there's none more reliable than him at the moment...But he'll be
back, and surely the selector's won't ignore him...

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Post by Rajesh Ram » Mon, 01 Mar 1993 12:09:52


:
 How can you exclude Shoaib from test eleven? i would replace sidhu or Rameez with shoaib and Malick with Kumble. Inclusion of Kumble will make bowling very versatile.

        I would root for Shoaib too. He sure is a good batsman. In fact,
        I consider him the only true opening batsman amongst the three
        ie Siddhu, Rameez and Shoaib. An opening batsman requires great
        technique and from what I've heard about Shoaib he's got that as
        well as the patience to build an innings.

        --;-)
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Post by Rajesh Ram » Mon, 01 Mar 1993 12:13:11


:
:       Anyone recall a chap called Ravi Shastri ?!?

        Ravi Shastri is not a match for Shoaib Mohammed.

        --;-)
        Rajesh Raman

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Post by tha.. » Fri, 05 Mar 1993 05:49:38

best Ind-paki team for oneday will be

Manoj Prabhakar    <-----------Ramiz Raja is not in form right now.
Navjot siddhu
Vinod Kambli/ Inzamam ul haq
Sachin Tendulkar
Javed mindad(?)
Mohamed Azharudin
Kapildev     <-------------- He has to be a captain for the oneday match.
Wasim Akram
Kiran More        no other choice. he is better batsman than Rashid.
Waqar Younes
Mushtaq/kumble  Kumble was more succesful than Mushtaq in SA. And Kumble is
                better batsman than Mushtaq

 In this team their are 5 specialist batsman and bowler and one wicketkeeper.

Start bowling with Kapil and Waqar and first change Wasim and second change
Manoj and then mushtaq or kumble.

any comments,
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Post by Aamir Husa » Fri, 05 Mar 1993 07:57:03

Quote:

> best Ind-paki team for oneday will be

> Manoj Prabhakar    <-----------Ramiz Raja is not in form right now.
> Navjot siddhu
> Vinod Kambli/ Inzamam ul haq
> Sachin Tendulkar
> Javed mindad(?)
> Mohamed Azharudin
> Kapildev     <-------------- He has to be a captain for the oneday match.
> Wasim Akram
> Kiran More        no other choice. he is better batsman than Rashid.
> Waqar Younes
> Mushtaq/kumble  Kumble was more succesful than Mushtaq in SA. And Kumble is
>                 better batsman than Mushtaq

>  In this team their are 5 specialist batsman and bowler and one wicketkeeper.

> Start bowling with Kapil and Waqar and first change Wasim and second change
> Manoj and then mushtaq or kumble.

> any comments,
> utpal thakar

tendulkar, miandad, azhar, kapil, akram, younis and mushtaq/kumble
are automatic selections.

I would diasgree with your choice of openers, i would definitely go with
rameez, he might not have had a good series in the recent one days
in south africa well against WI anyway, but then not many pak batsmen
did. he has a good 1day record
         matches   runs   ave    100's   50's  
Rameez    143      4475   33.9    7       27
since then pak has played in sharjah and now in Sa/Zim a total of 11 odi's
in that i know rameez has scored 1 hundred and 2 fifties( ithink)

i dont think i would go with prabhakar for opener in ODI's
it would be interesting to see the odi records of the current india
team. requesting for someone to please post it if they have it.
 i would go with Sidhu or Shoaib mohd for the 2nd choice. well might have
to stick with prabhakar as a 5th bowler. but i would prefer aqib javed

I diagree with the choice of more, i would go with raashid latif
i think he is not only a better keeper but also a better bat.

i would replace inzamam with malik
my odi team would be
1. R. Raja
2. Shoaib mohd/ Sidhu
3. Malik /Kambli
4. tendulkar
5. miandad
6. Azhar
7. kapil
8. akram
9. latif
10. Kumble/mushtaq
11. younis

the first name (if there are 2 names) being preferred

The main problem i have with your article is that fact that you want
wasim akram, to come in as a 1st change bowler and kapil to open
the bowling with waqar. wasim with out a doubt should open the
bowling and also be there at the end of the innings. he is after all
the leading ODI bowler in the world (well one of two ambrose comes to
mind as the other). tendulkar and shoaib sharing the 5th bowler spell.
alternatively have prabhakar in for shoaib/sidhu

Aamir

 
 
 

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Post by D. Salman [Quintessential] Azh » Sat, 06 Mar 1993 04:18:17

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>Kiran More        no other choice. he is better batsman than Rashid.
>UTPAL THAKAR.

Depends on how you define "better" batsman. Personally, I consider
Rashid Latif to be tamong he most technically correct batsmen
in the sub-continent.  In fact, if I think he might be the solution to
Pakistan's on-down problem. Anyway, maybe you haven't seen Rashid bat;
maybe you should ask Geoff Boycott.

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Post by Jon Thackr » Wed, 10 Mar 1993 21:29:50

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   >
   > best Ind-paki team for oneday will be
   >

Why is an India/Pakistan team considered to be a sub-continent eleven?
Isn't Sri Lanka part of this sub-continent?
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Post by KANDALA SRINIV » Thu, 11 Mar 1993 02:19:51

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>Why is an India/Pakistan team considered to be a sub-continent eleven?
>Isn't Sri Lanka part of this sub-continent?
>--

Because (probably) these two countries used to field a single team before 47
(or is it 50?)

srini

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