World Leftie's v Righties

World Leftie's v Righties

Post by Will Sutto » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Pick the best sides from the last 25 years

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World Leftie's v Righties

Post by Mad Hami » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>Pick the best sides from the last 25 years

off the top of my head
LH

Wessels
Taylor
Lara
Thorpe
Gower
Border
Marsh
Akram
Bedi
Reid

RH
Gavaskar
Greenidge
Viv Richards
Tendulkar
Lara
Steve Waugh
Alan Knott
Hadlee
Marshall
Warne
Garner

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Post by David Gigliott » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Arthur Morris
Bill Lawry
Brian Lara
Allan Border
David Gower
Alvin Kallicharan
Alan Davidson
Wasim Akram
Rod Marsh
Bishen Bedi
Bruce Reid

Regards,
David Gigliotti

Quote:

>Pick the best sides from the last 25 years

>--
>Will Sutton

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Post by Stephen Devau » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Arthur Morris
> Bill Lawry
> Brian Lara
> Allan Border
> David Gower
> Alvin Kallicharan
> Alan Davidson
> Wasim Akram
> Rod Marsh
> Bishen Bedi
> Bruce Reid

> Regards,
> David Gigliotti

> >Pick the best sides from the last 25 years

Hm.  Arthur Morris and Alan Davidson from the last 25 years...  yet, it
must be limited to the last 25 years, or else a chap named Sobers...
Naw, he proberly wouldna made it!

Fraternally in cricket,

Steve the Bajan

 
 
 

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Post by John Hal » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Quote:

>>Pick the best sides from the last 25 years

>off the top of my head
>LH

>Wessels
>Taylor
>Lara
>Thorpe
>Gower
>Border
>Marsh
>Akram
>Bedi
>Reid

They'd do even better with an 11th player, who needs to be able to bowl.
If we could make the period 30 years instead of 25 then we could include
Gary Sobers.

Quote:

>RH
>Gavaskar
>Greenidge
>Viv Richards
>Tendulkar
>Lara
>Steve Waugh
>Alan Knott
>Hadlee
>Marshall
>Warne
>Garner

Lara the ambidextrous? I suggest Javed Miandad in his place.
--
John Hall
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                   a Scotsman with a grievance and a ray of sunshine."
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Post by John Hal » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
>Arthur Morris
>Bill Lawry
>Brian Lara
>Allan Border
>David Gower
>Alvin Kallicharan
>Alan Davidson
>Wasim Akram
>Rod Marsh
>Bishen Bedi
>Bruce Reid

Neither Morris nor Davidson would qualify under the 25 year requirement
that the original poster imposed, though they'd be in a best post-war
lefties' XI, as would Sobers, Graeme Pollock and Harvey. Trevor Goddard,
Eddie Barlow, Martin Donnelly, John Edrich, Alf Valentine, Lock and
Wardle would also come into consideration for such an XI.

Here's my post-WW2 left-handers' XI:

Arthur Morris
Neil Harvey
Graeme Pollock
Brian Lara
Gary Sobers
Allan Border (c)
Wasim Akram
Rod Marsh (w)
Alan Davidson
Bishen Bedi
Bruce Reid

Lawry, Gower and Kallicharan get forced out. Harvey usually batted at
number 3, but I think he opened on occasion. I've moved Davidson below
Wasim Akram and Rod Marsh in the batting order, as I don't think he ever
made a Test hundred. On a spinners' pitch, Lock might replace Reid.

Here's a post-WW2 right-handers' XI for them to play against:

Hutton
Gavaskar
Bradman (c)
Weekes
Walcott
Miller
Knott (w)
Hadlee
Warne
Lillee
Holding

If it's a green pitch, Bedser will come in instead of either Lillee or
Holding. If it's a spinners' pitch, Laker will come in.
--
John Hall
                  "It is never difficult to distinguish between
                   a Scotsman with a grievance and a ray of sunshine."
                                        P.G.Wodehouse (1881-1975)

 
 
 

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Post by John P Darc » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Pick the best sides from the last 25 years

Lefties:

Mark Taylor
Gary Kirsten
Brian Lara
David Gower
Clive Lloyd (c)
Alan Border
Rod Marsh  (wk)
Wasim Akram
Derek Underwood
Paul Strang
Bruce Reid

(fast bowling selection was a struggle)

Righties:

Gordon Greendidge
Graham Gooch  (c)
Sachin Tendulkar
Greg Chappell
Javed Miandad
Ian Botham
Richard Hadlee
Allan Knott  (wk)
Shane Warne
Dennis Lillee
Andy Roberts

(fast bowling selection was a struggle for the opposite reason)

Cheers

John

 
 
 

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Post by Will Sutto » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:


> > Arthur Morris
> > Bill Lawry
> > Brian Lara
> > Allan Border
> > David Gower
> > Alvin Kallicharan
> > Alan Davidson
> > Wasim Akram
> > Rod Marsh
> > Bishen Bedi
> > Bruce Reid

> > Regards,
> > David Gigliotti

> > >Pick the best sides from the last 25 years

> Hm.  Arthur Morris and Alan Davidson from the last 25 years...  yet, it
> must be limited to the last 25 years, or else a chap named Sobers...
> Naw, he proberly wouldna made it!

> Fraternally in cricket,

Not only would he make it , he would be the first player picked in my all
time team

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> Steve the Bajan

 
 
 

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Post by Will Sutto » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:



> >Arthur Morris
> >Bill Lawry
> >Brian Lara
> >Allan Border
> >David Gower
> >Alvin Kallicharan
> >Alan Davidson
> >Wasim Akram
> >Rod Marsh
> >Bishen Bedi
> >Bruce Reid

> Neither Morris nor Davidson would qualify under the 25 year requirement
> that the original poster imposed, though they'd be in a best post-war
> lefties' XI, as would Sobers, Graeme Pollock and Harvey. Trevor Goddard,
> Eddie Barlow, Martin Donnelly, John Edrich, Alf Valentine, Lock and
> Wardle would also come into consideration for such an XI.

> Here's my post-WW2 left-handers' XI:

> Arthur Morris
> Neil Harvey
> Graeme Pollock
> Brian Lara
> Gary Sobers
> Allan Border (c)
> Wasim Akram
> Rod Marsh (w)
> Alan Davidson
> Bishen Bedi
> Bruce Reid

> Lawry, Gower and Kallicharan get forced out. Harvey usually batted at
> number 3, but I think he opened on occasion. I've moved Davidson below
> Wasim Akram and Rod Marsh in the batting order, as I don't think he ever
> made a Test hundred. On a spinners' pitch, Lock might replace Reid.

> Here's a post-WW2 right-handers' XI for them to play against:

> Hutton
> Gavaskar
> Bradman (c)
> Weekes
> Walcott
> Miller
> Knott (w)
> Hadlee
> Warne
> Lillee
> Holding

> If it's a green pitch, Bedser will come in instead of either Lillee or
> Holding. If it's a spinners' pitch, Laker will come in.

Oh what a match that would be............I would give the advantage
to the righties due to the bowlers but wouldn't have Warne playing
against a full lineup of lefties.............
 
 
 

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Post by John Hal » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00



[post-war lefties v righties]

Quote:
>Oh what a match that would be............I would give the advantage
>to the righties due to the bowlers but wouldn't have Warne playing
>against a full lineup of lefties.............

That's a good point. I'd overlooked the idea that Warne is not supposed
to bowl so well against left-handers, though in theory he should have
the advantage of using the rough outside their off-stump. I'm trying to
think of alternative post-war right-arm spinners who can make the ball
turn into the left-hander (which means he has to be a leg-break bowler
rather than an off-spinner). Perhaps the best choice would be Richie
Benaud?

With all those left-arm bowlers, there's likely to be rough outside the
right-hander's off-stump too, which means the left-hand team ideally
should have someone who can turn the ball into the right-hander. That
again has to be a wrist-spinner, so Sobers could get to bowl quite a lot
in that style, and it might even be worth picking Johnny Wardle as well.
I can't think of any other left-handed wrist-spinners post-war who have
been close to top class.
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Post by epco » Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:00:00

All of you who would not include Viv Richards in any batting line up of
the last 25 years are wanckers.  Without a doubt he was the best
batsman, most *** and superb fielder.

So check your YA-YA's before you make the batting line ups.

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Post by John P Darc » Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> All of you who would not include Viv Richards in any batting line up of
> the last 25 years are wanckers.  Without a doubt he was the best
> batsman, most *** and superb fielder.

Your opinion is noted.  I considered Viv, but did not select him
ahead of G.Chappell *and* Javed *and* Sachin.  My team included
Ian Botham at 6, and just *maybe* you could do without him, bat
Viv at 4 and Chappell at 6.

BTW, the correct spelling is "***ers" - does not include a "c".

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Cheers

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Post by legspi.. » Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:44:04 +1100, "Will Sutton"

> >Pick the best sides from the last 25 years

> off the top of my head
> LH
> Lara

> RH
> Lara

people have commented that Hamish put Lara in both teams - but isn't
Lara really a right-hander?  He bowls right-handed, like Clive Lloyd,
etc.  I guess because he bats left-handed he should be in the lefties
team, since he is primarily a batsman, but a case CAN be made for both.

Which team would RJ Hadlee be it - right-handed bowler, left-handed
batsman?

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Post by epco » Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


> > All of you who would not include Viv Richards in any batting
> line up of
> > the last 25 years are wanckers.  Without a doubt he was the best
> > batsman, most *** and superb fielder.
> Your opinion is noted.  I considered Viv, but did not select him
> ahead of G.Chappell *and* Javed *and* Sachin.  My team included
> Ian Botham at 6, and just *maybe* you could do without him, bat
> Viv at 4 and Chappell at 6.
> BTW, the correct spelling is "***ers" - does not include a "c".
> --
> Cheers
> John
> ===============================================
> The Centenary Test:  Australia 138, England 95,
> Australia 419/9d, England 417.  Australia Won
> by 45 runs.  Then along came K.Packer ... :(
> ===============================================

Spelling for ***ers was duly noted.  Thanks.
By the way, I have one questions.  Do you seriously think G.Chappell,
Javed or SRT were/are better batsmen than Viv?  There maybe a couple of
batsman better thank Viv in the last 100 years, no more than that.

Anyway cheers.

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Post by paap.. » Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Saeed Anwar, M taylor, C Lloyd, D Gower, A Border, RMarsh, W Akram, G
Sobers , B Bedi, B Reid, D underwood.

Gavaskar, Greenidge, V Ricahrds, J Miandad, G Chappell, I Healy,
Lillee, Marshall, Holding, Imran, EAS Prasanna (1 Off spinner against
the lefties)



Quote:

> > Pick the best sides from the last 25 years

> Lefties:

> Mark Taylor
> Gary Kirsten
> Brian Lara
> David Gower
> Clive Lloyd (c)
> Alan Border
> Rod Marsh  (wk)
> Wasim Akram
> Derek Underwood
> Paul Strang
> Bruce Reid

> (fast bowling selection was a struggle)

> Righties:

> Gordon Greendidge
> Graham Gooch  (c)
> Sachin Tendulkar
> Greg Chappell
> Javed Miandad
> Ian Botham
> Richard Hadlee
> Allan Knott  (wk)
> Shane Warne
> Dennis Lillee
> Andy Roberts

> (fast bowling selection was a struggle for the opposite reason)

> Cheers

> John

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