And he didn't try to run for a single. Seems to be getting better!!
by MAJ » Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:11:36
And he didn't try to run for a single. Seems to be getting better!!
by John P Darc » Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:28:43
> And he didn't try to run for a single. Seems to be getting better!!
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Cheers
John
What sort of meat do you store in
an internet refrigerator? Spam.
by Matt van de Werke » Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:34:10
>> And he didn't try to run for a single. Seems to be getting better!!
> This is a text newsgroup. HTML elsewhere, please.
Just because *your* newsreader can render it, and can generate it, does not
make it appropriate.
In my not-so-humble opinion, any newsreader (or email client, for that
matter) that can render html like a browser is BROKEN.
Cheers,
MvdW
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Linux 2.4.19 - Dual Athlon MP1800+ -- Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:32PM
Just go with the flow control, roll with the crunches, and, when you
get a prompt, type like hell.
by Aragor » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:46:44
by Geoff Muldoo » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 07:59:01
Fully agree.
Both my email client and my news reader (both non-M$ products BTW) have
the ability to render HTML. In both, I have intentionally disabled this
"feature", because I'm ultra-security conscious.
If posters insist on sending me HTML guff, I just don't read it, but bin
it. They want to reduce their audience, their problem.
I consider it more rude than top-posting. I don't use UseNet for
"pretties". If they "need" to use HTML, let them set up a web page and
send me the URL.
Geoff M
by Moby » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:32:45
> >In my not-so-humble opinion, any newsreader (or email client, for that
> >matter) that can render html like a browser is BROKEN.
> Matt,
> Fully agree.
> Both my email client and my news reader (both non-M$ products BTW) have
> the ability to render HTML. In both, I have intentionally disabled this
> "feature", because I'm ultra-security conscious.
> If posters insist on sending me HTML guff, I just don't read it, but bin
> it. They want to reduce their audience, their problem.
> I consider it more rude than top-posting. I don't use UseNet for
> "pretties". If they "need" to use HTML, let them set up a web page and
> send me the URL.
TIA
Moby
by Raghu Jetle » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:41:51
> > >In my not-so-humble opinion, any newsreader (or email client, for that
> > >matter) that can render html like a browser is BROKEN.
> > Matt,
> > Fully agree.
> > Both my email client and my news reader (both non-M$ products BTW) have
> > the ability to render HTML. In both, I have intentionally disabled this
> > "feature", because I'm ultra-security conscious.
> > If posters insist on sending me HTML guff, I just don't read it, but bin
> > it. They want to reduce their audience, their problem.
> > I consider it more rude than top-posting. I don't use UseNet for
> > "pretties". If they "need" to use HTML, let them set up a web page and
> > send me the URL.
> Geoff... any chance you could e-mail me a short set of instructions to
kill
> the HTML formatting completely?
AFAIK, there in no way to do what he is talking about in Outlook Express.
About your problem, the thing I do is this.
When you are following up to HTML/RT, OE seems to compose
your reply in the same format. So after clicking on Reply & having the
reply open in your composition window, you click on the Format menu.
Then Choose Rich Text(HTML) from the drop down. And again
click Format & now choose Plain text. This seems to work most of the
time. i.e. OE doesn't allow you to directly format it to plain text,
because it thinks it's already doing plain text, because of the options
you have chosen. So now you have to convert it to Rich Text & convert
it back to Plain text. Works most of the time.
I am assuming you already have set the rights options in tools/options.
by Geoff Muldoo » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:07:29
>> Geoff... any chance you could e-mail me a short set of instructions to
>> kill the HTML formatting completely?
>He uses a different newsreader. And he is talking about not rendering HTML.
>What you are talking about it not composing HTML.
>AFAIK, there in no way to do what he is talking about in Outlook Express.
Moby, just get yourself a better client, one built specifically just for
UseNet.
Look at:
http://tucows.mirror.aarnet.edu.au/news95_default.html
or
http://cws.internet.com/news.html
Free Agent is very popular. I use MicroPlanet Gravity, but their site
seems down lately.
<snip M$ OE stuff>
Geoff M
by Moby » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:41:47
> About your problem, the thing I do is this.
> When you are following up to HTML/RT, OE seems to compose
> your reply in the same format. So after clicking on Reply & having the
> reply open in your composition window, you click on the Format menu.
> Then Choose Rich Text(HTML) from the drop down. And again
> click Format & now choose Plain text. This seems to work most of the
> time. i.e. OE doesn't allow you to directly format it to plain text,
> because it thinks it's already doing plain text, because of the options
> you have chosen. So now you have to convert it to Rich Text & convert
> it back to Plain text. Works most of the time.
Moby
Who just wants pine back.
by Womba » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:06:15
<snip>
> He uses a different newsreader. And he is talking about not rendering
> HTML. What you are talking about it not composing HTML.
> AFAIK, there in no way to do what he is talking about in Outlook
> Express.
Wombat
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by Moby » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:56:22
> <snip>
> >> Geoff... any chance you could e-mail me a short set of instructions
> >> to kill the HTML formatting completely?
> > He uses a different newsreader. And he is talking about not rendering
> > HTML. What you are talking about it not composing HTML.
> > AFAIK, there in no way to do what he is talking about in Outlook
> > Express.
> In Outlook Express 6, there is a setting under:
> Tools -> Options -> Read which can be ticked to "Read All Messages In
Plain
> Text"
Moby
by Womba » Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:13:45
>> <snip>
>>>> Geoff... any chance you could e-mail me a short set of instructions
>>>> to kill the HTML formatting completely?
>>> He uses a different newsreader. And he is talking about not
>>> rendering HTML. What you are talking about it not composing HTML.
>>> AFAIK, there in no way to do what he is talking about in Outlook
>>> Express.
>> In Outlook Express 6, there is a setting under:
>> Tools -> Options -> Read which can be ticked to "Read All Messages
>> In Plain Text"
> Am using Ver 6. Is it the encoding? Otherwise I can't find it.
(Have sent a screenshot to your e-mail)
Wombat
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by Raghu Jetle » Fri, 07 Mar 2003 03:42:48
> Go to Tools -> Options. Then select the Read tab. Fourth check box from
the
> top should be "Read All Messages As Plain Text".
> (Have sent a screenshot to your e-mail)
Me & Moby had 6.00.26
Moby, you can download the latest version from the MS site.
I think IE6 SP1 comes with OE 6.00.28
by Moby » Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:32:44
> > > Am using Ver 6. Is it the encoding? Otherwise I can't find it.
> > Go to Tools -> Options. Then select the Read tab. Fourth check box from
> the
> > top should be "Read All Messages As Plain Text".
> > (Have sent a screenshot to your e-mail)
> You have 6.00.28.
> Me & Moby had 6.00.26
> Moby, you can download the latest version from the MS site.
> I think IE6 SP1 comes with OE 6.00.28
Moby
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