Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by Devender Chilumu » Tue, 04 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Yes,  I am Indian and I want more cricket.

I do not understand why all the Indians(including P. Panicker) started
***ing about too much cricket?  IMHO I need more cricket.  My reasons
include the following.

1.  For me cricket is entertainment,  so I would not mind enjoying it
everyday from Indian team(How come we never complain that Indian movie
makers make more movies than there are days in a year?).

2.  I do not care what happens to a players' health.  Because if it is
not Srinath,  Srinath's Bap(father) will play,  if not Srinath's Bap,
then his Bap is there to play.  Common folks there are close to 1
Billion people India.  Someone is there to play all the time.  Ya, ya I
know not everyone is capable of playing cricket but who cares(Thank God
Bagath Singh/Alluri Sitaramaiah never said what happens if they die).

3.  Cricket is not a mama and papa's game anymore.  It is professional
sport.  It is up to the player to take care of his/her health.  If one
disregards one's health and plays continuously,  then it's one's own
problem.  But if one serves the country while disregarding one's health
then one is remembered for the sacrifice one makes(I hear Tennis players
withdraw from prfessional circuit all the time.  I do not know what is
stopping cricket players to sit back a tour or two.  In fact this would
give other younger players a chance to prove themselves,  i.e., other
players to be tried-out.  In fact it may help break the monopoly of
limited number of players.  Constant dropping/changing would encourage
the younger lot to work that much harder to get into the team,  cause
they know that they chances of getting into the team).

4.  Cricket is a profession these players chose.  Hence,  thscey should
not hesitate to play it all the time(I work eight hours a day,  and five
days a week.  Can you imagine me asking my boss that I already used my
brain for this week,  and I need rest for a month or two.  They will
promptly replace me with someone else who is capable of working all the
time).

5.  Look at Tendulkar(With all the due respect to his game).  Is he an
example to Indian crickters as far as his fitness is concerned?  The
*** is a fat ass.  He should work his butt-out and become a lean and
mean sun of a gun.  I thought his spouse is a doctor!

6.  It seems like Indian players are under the impression that once you
make it to the team,  you are a Nawab.  In fact the only criteria for
the players to be in the Indian team should be constant performance.
Otherwise,  they should be kicked-out.  Only the best performers from
the First class matches are selected into the Indian side.  One or two
games with the Indian team.  No goods delivered.  No team membership.
Next best performers are selected into the team.  It continues.

Discussions are welcome to the rsc.

Devender.
{No emails are entertained}

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by N Arvindkum » Wed, 05 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Yes,  I am Indian and I want more cricket.
> I do not understand why all the Indians(including P. Panicker) started
> ***ing about too much cricket?  IMHO I need more cricket.  My reasons
> include the following.
> 1.  For me cricket is entertainment,  so I would not mind enjoying it
> everyday from Indian team(How come we never complain that Indian movie
> makers make more movies than there are days in a year?).

True. Any exciting game provides entertainment even if we are on the
losing side. I'd rather have an exciting game of cricket than no cricket.

Quote:
> 2.  I do not care what happens to a players' health.  Because if it is
> not Srinath,  Srinath's Bap(father) will play,  if not Srinath's Bap,
> then his Bap is there to play.  Common folks there are close to 1
> Billion people India.  Someone is there to play all the time.  Ya, ya I
> know not everyone is capable of playing cricket but who cares(Thank God
> Bagath Singh/Alluri Sitaramaiah never said what happens if they die).

Nothing stops these players from making way for the other players.
Why can't India have a pool of around 25 players who get to represent
the team? The next best could automatically be drafted into the team
when the best makes way. Alternately, there could be 22 players for every
series and some players be rested for some matches. This way everyone
gets sufficient rest and no one is a passenger/drinks man all the time.
This doesn't mean that the player who pulled out is out forever.
He could come back after getting sufficient rest.

Quote:
> 6.  It seems like Indian players are under the impression that once you
> make it to the team,  you are a Nawab.  In fact the only criteria for
> the players to be in the Indian team should be constant performance.
> Otherwise,  they should be kicked-out.  Only the best performers from
> the First class matches are selected into the Indian side.  One or two
> games with the Indian team.  No goods delivered.  No team membership.
> Next best performers are selected into the team.  It continues.

One or two games is not enough. Perhaps 4-5 games would be more like it.

-Arvind

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by Daud Faroo » Thu, 06 Mar 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>Yes,  I am Indian and I want more cricket.

>I do not understand why all the Indians(including P. Panicker) started
>***ing about too much cricket?  IMHO I need more cricket.  My reasons
>include the following.

>1.  For me cricket is entertainment,  so I would not mind enjoying it
>everyday from Indian team(How come we never complain that Indian movie
>makers make more movies than there are days in a year?).

>2.  I do not care what happens to a players' health.  Because if it is
>not Srinath,  Srinath's Bap(father) will play,  if not Srinath's Bap,
>then his Bap is there to play.  Common folks there are close to 1
>Billion people India.  Someone is there to play all the time.  Ya, ya I
>know not everyone is capable of playing cricket but who cares(Thank God
>Bagath Singh/Alluri Sitaramaiah never said what happens if they die).

>3.  Cricket is not a mama and papa's game anymore.  It is professional
>sport.  It is up to the player to take care of his/her health.  If one
>disregards one's health and plays continuously,  then it's one's own
>problem.  But if one serves the country while disregarding one's health
>then one is remembered for the sacrifice one makes(I hear Tennis players
>withdraw from prfessional circuit all the time.  I do not know what is
>stopping cricket players to sit back a tour or two.  In fact this would
>give other younger players a chance to prove themselves,  i.e., other
>players to be tried-out.  In fact it may help break the monopoly of
>limited number of players.  Constant dropping/changing would encourage
>the younger lot to work that much harder to get into the team,  cause
>they know that they chances of getting into the team).

>4.  Cricket is a profession these players chose.  Hence,  thscey should
>not hesitate to play it all the time(I work eight hours a day,  and five
>days a week.  Can you imagine me asking my boss that I already used my
>brain for this week,  and I need rest for a month or two.  They will
>promptly replace me with someone else who is capable of working all the
>time).

>5.  Look at Tendulkar(With all the due respect to his game).  Is he an
>example to Indian crickters as far as his fitness is concerned?  The
>*** is a fat ass.  He should work his butt-out and become a lean and
>mean sun of a gun.  I thought his spouse is a doctor!

>6.  It seems like Indian players are under the impression that once you
>make it to the team,  you are a Nawab.  In fact the only criteria for
>the players to be in the Indian team should be constant performance.
>Otherwise,  they should be kicked-out.  Only the best performers from
>the First class matches are selected into the Indian side.  One or two
>games with the Indian team.  No goods delivered.  No team membership.
>Next best performers are selected into the team.  It continues.

>Discussions are welcome to the rsc.

>Devender.
>{No emails are entertained}

Man, someone give this guy more cricket!!
--
Daud Farooq

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by Ansari Mohs » Fri, 07 Mar 1997 04:01:00

: 2.  I do not care what happens to a players' health.  Because if it is
: not Srinath,  Srinath's Bap(father) will play,  if not Srinath's Bap,
: then his Bap is there to play.  Common folks there are close to 1
: Billion people India.  Someone is there to play all the time.  Ya, ya I
: know not everyone is capable of playing cricket but who cares(Thank God
: Bagath Singh/Alluri Sitaramaiah never said what happens if they die).

If I'm paying to watch Srinath, I want to see Srinath. Cricket, at the
highest level, is intended to be played by the best players. Anytime
a star player is missing from the lineup, you walk away with a "What
if?" feeling.

Having year-round cricket with 2nd and 3rd string XIs reduces test and
one-day cricket to the level of first-class cricket, and nobody wants to
see that happen. You may still be watching, but most of us will lose
interest just as we have for first-class cricket.

Mohsin Ansari

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by N Arvindkum » Sat, 08 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> If I'm paying to watch Srinath, I want to see Srinath. Cricket, at the
> highest level, is intended to be played by the best players. Anytime
> a star player is missing from the lineup, you walk away with a "What
> if?" feeling.
> Having year-round cricket with 2nd and 3rd string XIs reduces test and
> one-day cricket to the level of first-class cricket, and nobody wants to
> see that happen. You may still be watching, but most of us will lose
> interest just as we have for first-class cricket.

I doubt that it would reduce their levels. On the other hand, the players
who are given exposure are bound to improve. Remember Srinath when he
came in? He would never have improved without the exposure to top level
cricket. If Kuruvilla had been given the exposure, he too would have matured
instead of being - in Boycott's words - just a nagging line and length
medium pacer.

Cheers,
-Arvind

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by Krishn » Sat, 08 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>> If I'm paying to watch Srinath, I want to see Srinath. Cricket, at the
>> highest level, is intended to be played by the best players. Anytime
>> a star player is missing from the lineup, you walk away with a "What
>> if?" feeling.

>> Having year-round cricket with 2nd and 3rd string XIs reduces test and
>> one-day cricket to the level of first-class cricket, and nobody wants to
>> see that happen. You may still be watching, but most of us will lose
>> interest just as we have for first-class cricket.

>I doubt that it would reduce their levels. On the other hand, the players
>who are given exposure are bound to improve. Remember Srinath when he
>came in? He would never have improved without the exposure to top level
>cricket. If Kuruvilla had been given the exposure, he too would have matured
>instead of being - in Boycott's words - just a nagging line and length
>medium pacer.

>Cheers,
>-Arvind

Well, if , in his first test he had striven for pace and been wayword, Boycott i am sure would have had something to say about that as well.:-) give the guy a break. Just his first test.

ak

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Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by pan.dhanw.. » Sat, 08 Mar 1997 04:00:00

I disagree with your opinion. I rightly think in Mr Ansari' terms. More
cricket will make cricket less interesting and we dont get full output
from the players.

In Telugu there is a saying which means

It is better to have a glass of cow milk rather than having  a big pot of
goat's milk.

Pandu.

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by Ansari Mohs » Sat, 08 Mar 1997 04:00:00

: I doubt that it would reduce their levels. On the other hand, the players
: who are given exposure are bound to improve. Remember Srinath when he
: came in? He would never have improved without the exposure to top level
: cricket. If Kuruvilla had been given the exposure, he too would have matured
: instead of being - in Boycott's words - just a nagging line and length
: medium pacer.

Srinath came at a time when India was facing a crisis situation in the
fast-bowling department. With experience and maturity, he is definitely a
much better bowler now. Kuruvilla is just an unfortunate case of the
selectors not having realised his potential early enough. Some countries
do a better job of exposing talent than others. Australia is a prime
example, and in the recent past Pakistan has started doing a reasonable
job. However, even in these countries there is a lot of talent that falls
thru the cracks. On the other hand, every country has made the mistake of
sticking with players who just were not cut out for cricket at the highest
level. The list is endless, and I do not even care to go into it.

This pool of 25 players or so concept that you bring up already exists in
the form of Under-23 and A-teams. However, if you start fielding
too many players from these teams at a given time, there is no doubt in my
mind that the quality of cricket that the test team now produces will
suffer. And if too many national teams take this approach, then the
quality of cricket that we now see will suffer immeasurably.

It's very important to give youngsters a chance, but the wholesale manner
that you are suggesting is not wise in my opinion. It would be much better
to improve the domestic circuit or have more A-team tours than to take
these budding talents quickly to the final arena.

Mohsin Ansari    

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by Ansari Mohs » Sun, 09 Mar 1997 04:00:00



: >

: >
: > : 2.  I do not care what happens to a players' health.  Because if it is
: > : not Srinath,  Srinath's Bap(father) will play,  if not Srinath's Bap,
: > : then his Bap is there to play.  Common folks there are close to 1
: > : Billion people India.  Someone is there to play all the time.  Ya, ya I
: > : know not everyone is capable of playing cricket but who cares(Thank God
: > : Bagath Singh/Alluri Sitaramaiah never said what happens if they die).
: >
: > If I'm paying to watch Srinath, I want to see Srinath. Cricket, at the
: > highest level, is intended to be played by the best players. Anytime
: > a star player is missing from the lineup, you walk away with a "What
: > if?" feeling.
: >
: > Having year-round cricket with 2nd and 3rd string XIs reduces test and
: > one-day cricket to the level of first-class cricket, and nobody wants to
: > see that happen. You may still be watching, but most of us will lose
: > interest just as we have for first-class cricket.
: >
: > Mohsin Ansari

: In Resonse

: I fully understand what you mean when you say that
: you are missing out on something when your star
: player is missing.  However you sound like a true
: ASS, when you  make statements like you dont
: care about a star players health.  Who know maybe
: you are an ASS.  I would rather see a star player
: get well so I may be able to enjoy his talents for
: years to come.  That one day of cricket or even the
: one series missed due to something as serious as
: a torn muscle is really no big loss in my book.
: So get a life !!!!!!!

This guy needs a tutorial in "Reading Usenet News". I made the comment about
missing star players, while another contributor made the players' health
comment. Most people can see from my comments that I am placing a premium on
players' healths. In any case, as far as your opinion of me, just three
words: I DON'T CARE !!!  

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by Ja » Sun, 09 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Quote:




>> : 2.  I do not care what happens to a players' health.  Because if it is
>> : not Srinath,  Srinath's Bap(father) will play,  if not Srinath's Bap,
>> : then his Bap is there to play.  Common folks there are close to 1
>> : Billion people India.  Someone is there to play all the time.  Ya, ya I
>> : know not everyone is capable of playing cricket but who cares(Thank God
>> : Bagath Singh/Alluri Sitaramaiah never said what happens if they die).
>> snipped.....

I think to satisfy viewers like you, there should be three or four indian teams
touring different countries or having other teams visiting them.
You can then watch all the cricket you want.
Traditional test cricket should be abandoned and players will chose, for
whatever teams they want to play. This way you will clear up lot of selection committee
garbagge. Only thing will be that tickets (to see a real match) would be only $5000.00
per half day.

Good luck with commercialized cricket dream league

jay

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by N Arvindkum » Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> >cricket. If Kuruvilla had been given the exposure, he too would have matured
> >instead of being - in Boycott's words - just a nagging line and length
> >medium pacer.
> Well, if , in his first test he had striven for pace and been wayword, Boycott i am sure would have had something to say about that as well.:-) give the guy a break. Just his first test.

Frankly, I feel Boycott shouldn't have said that. I have been watching
the telecast and Kuruvilla was really impressive.

-Arvind

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by Your Nam » Mon, 10 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Quote:



> : >

> : >
> : > : 2.  I do not care what happens to a players' health.  Because if it is
> : > : not Srinath,  Srinath's Bap(father) will play,  if not Srinath's Bap,
> : > : then his Bap is there to play.  Common folks there are close to 1
> : > : Billion people India.  Someone is there to play all the time.  Ya, ya I
> : > : know not everyone is capable of playing cricket but who cares(Thank God
> : > : Bagath Singh/Alluri Sitaramaiah never said what happens if they die).
> : >
> : > If I'm paying to watch Srinath, I want to see Srinath. Cricket, at the
> : > highest level, is intended to be played by the best players. Anytime
> : > a star player is missing from the lineup, you walk away with a "What
> : > if?" feeling.
> : >
> : > Having year-round cricket with 2nd and 3rd string XIs reduces test and
> : > one-day cricket to the level of first-class cricket, and nobody wants to
> : > see that happen. You may still be watching, but most of us will lose
> : > interest just as we have for first-class cricket.
> : >
> : > Mohsin Ansari

> : In Resonse

> : I fully understand what you mean when you say that
> : you are missing out on something when your star
> : player is missing.  However you sound like a true
> : ASS, when you  make statements like you dont
> : care about a star players health.  Who know maybe
> : you are an ASS.  I would rather see a star player
> : get well so I may be able to enjoy his talents for
> : years to come.  That one day of cricket or even the
> : one series missed due to something as serious as
> : a torn muscle is really no big loss in my book.
> : So get a life !!!!!!!

> This guy needs a tutorial in "Reading Usenet News". I made the comment about
> missing star players, while another contributor made the players' health
> comment. Most people can see from my comments that I am placing a premium on
> players' healths. In any case, as far as your opinion of me, just three
> words: I DON'T CARE !!!  

 
 
 

Yes, I am Indian and I want more cricket.

Post by A.M.Narayan » Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:00:00

: > >cricket. If Kuruvilla had been given the exposure, he too would have matured
: > >instead of being - in Boycott's words - just a nagging line and length
: > >medium pacer.

: > Well, if , in his first test he had striven for pace and been wayword, Boycott i am sure would have had something to say about that as well.:-) give the guy a break. Just his first test.

: Frankly, I feel Boycott shouldn't have said that. I have been watching
: the telecast and Kuruvilla was really impressive.

: -Arvind

Boycott was comparing him with Srinath in that column but the next day Boycott
had told that Kuruvilla is impressive even though he doen't have pace.

Narayanan