Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Steven Goldbe » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00


I was watching the L.V. Invitational and was astounded when Tiger Woods
was able to reach a par 5, 565 yd. hole with a driver and 6 iron!  That
means his drive went about 350 and the six iron was 210.  How does he do
it?  It doesn't appear that he is a huge person and he doesn't take a
tremendous backswing like Daly does.  The only thing I noticed is that he
stands rather upright and has a steep approach to the ball.  But still!

Steve

 
 
 

Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Robert C. Lovejo » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I was watching the L.V. Invitational and was astounded when Tiger Woods
> was able to reach a par 5, 565 yd. hole with a driver and 6 iron!  That
> means his drive went about 350 and the six iron was 210.  How does he do
> it?  It doesn't appear that he is a huge person and he doesn't take a
> tremendous backswing like Daly does.  The only thing I noticed is that he
> stands rather upright and has a steep approach to the ball.  But still!

> SteveClub head speed.  He can move his hads fast and he has great rotational

speed as a result of loading his body with a lot of torque.  Agift few
have as well as a lot of hard work.
Bob

 
 
 

Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by stev.. » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I was watching the L.V. Invitational and was astounded when Tiger Woods
> was able to reach a par 5, 565 yd. hole with a driver and 6 iron!  That
> means his drive went about 350 and the six iron was 210.  How does he do
> it?  It doesn't appear that he is a huge person and he doesn't take a
> tremendous backswing like Daly does.  The only thing I noticed is that he
> stands rather upright and has a steep approach to the ball.  But still!

> SteveThe distance a ball travels is in direct relation to the clubhead speed at contact. He

creates a HUGE arc and accelarates like crazy through the hitting area. Greg Norman said
he's never seen anyone have their shoulders move through as fast through the point of
contact.

 
 
 

Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by stev.. » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I was watching the L.V. Invitational and was astounded when Tiger Woods
> was able to reach a par 5, 565 yd. hole with a driver and 6 iron!  That
> means his drive went about 350 and the six iron was 210.  How does he do
> it?  It doesn't appear that he is a huge person and he doesn't take a
> tremendous backswing like Daly does.  The only thing I noticed is that he
> stands rather upright and has a steep approach to the ball.  But still!

> SteveThe distance a ball travels is in direct relation to the clubhead speed at contact. He

creates a HUGE arc and accelarates like crazy through the hitting area. Greg Norman said
he's never seen anyone have their shoulders move through as fast through the point of
contact.
 
 
 

Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Greg G. Smit » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I was watching the L.V. Invitational and was astounded when Tiger Woods
> was able to reach a par 5, 565 yd. hole with a driver and 6 iron!  That
> means his drive went about 350 and the six iron was 210.  How does he do
> it?  It doesn't appear that he is a huge person and he doesn't take a
> tremendous backswing like Daly does.  The only thing I noticed is that he
> stands rather upright and has a steep approach to the ball.  But still!

> Steve

Tiger gets all that clubhead speed at impact because he understands how
to set himself up and accelerate from zero at the top of his swing to
well over 100mph at impact:

1- Tiger is very well balanced from start to finish. The only time I've
ever seen him lose his balance is when he takes a step with his right
foot after impact when digging the ball out of high rough.
2- He makes a very full shoulder turn with a fairly straight left arm
and passive hands, resulting in a wide arc for the clubhead.  He
transfers his weight to his right side without his left heel leaving the
ground much if at all:  the balance thing again but with lots of torque
bew*** his upper and lower body.
3- Tiger does not rush his downswing:  his lower body leads and his
hands remain passive, hence his wrist action is delayed to the last
possible split-second.  

Result:  300+ yards tee shots consistently.

Hope that helps,
Greg of the 7 handicap

 
 
 

Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Thomas Eva » Wed, 09 Oct 1996 04:00:00

A. He is 20 years old
B. He has been hitting golf balls since he was 1
C. He has world-class coach (Harmon) who follows him around like a puppy
   dog.
D. He is 6-2, strong but flexable.
E. He has god-given talent.
F. He has clubs specially fitted to his swing, he doesn't buy clubs off
   the rack.
G. He plays on courses with manicure fairways, they run about 9 on the
   stimpmeter, i.e. lots of roll
H. He has a sports pyschologist
I. Uses fresh-from-the-factory golf balls.

I have none of the above, so I'm lucky to hit it 230 ;-)

Regards,
--
Tom Evans

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Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Osbert Ta » Wed, 09 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> A. He is 20 years old
> B. He has been hitting golf balls since he was 1
> C. He has world-class coach (Harmon) who follows him around like a puppy
>    dog.
> D. He is 6-2, strong but flexable.
> E. He has god-given talent.
> F. He has clubs specially fitted to his swing, he doesn't buy clubs off
>    the rack.
> G. He plays on courses with manicure fairways, they run about 9 on the
>    stimpmeter, i.e. lots of roll
> H. He has a sports pyschologist
> I. Uses fresh-from-the-factory golf balls.

I think the reasons given here, except point E, can be found on many
touring pros. Butch Harmon only started working Woods a few years ago,
when he was already outdriving his peer at that time. Besides, in LV
tourney, he was carrying >300 yards with his 3 wood, carry, not roll.

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Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Nathan Potte » Wed, 09 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I was watching the L.V. Invitational and was astounded when Tiger Woods
> was able to reach a par 5, 565 yd. hole with a driver and 6 iron!  That
> means his drive went about 350 and the six iron was 210.  How does he do
> it?  It doesn't appear that he is a huge person and he doesn't take a
> tremendous backswing like Daly does.  The only thing I noticed is that he
> stands rather upright and has a steep approach to the ball.  But still!

> Steve

Simple, he hits it really hard.

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Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Richard Shanno » Wed, 09 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I was watching the L.V. Invitational and was astounded when Tiger Woods
> was able to reach a par 5, 565 yd. hole with a driver and 6 iron!  That
> means his drive went about 350 and the six iron was 210.  How does he do
> it?  It doesn't appear that he is a huge person and he doesn't take a
> tremendous backswing like Daly does.  The only thing I noticed is that he
> stands rather upright and has a steep approach to the ball.  But still!

> Steve

As far I can see (and anyone else has said), he produces a tremendous
amount of club speed through pure physical talent, and lots of practice.
He has the right golf muscles.

RIhcard

 
 
 

Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Rick Nels » Thu, 10 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> > F. He has clubs specially fitted to his swing, he doesn't buy clubs off
> >    the rack.
> Besides, in LV
> tourney, he was carrying >300 yards with his 3 wood, carry, not roll.

it is the swing.  it is the ball.  it is the shaft.  it is the hard earth and
grass.  it is how they are all synchronized and matched to one another.  it is
very simple.  

if kinetic energy = 1/2 * m * v^2 - and if you can create a sweet spot swing
speed of 135 mph with a downward vector at impact that creates 12% more
backspin and ball flight/lift than anyone else in the world - what does that
translate to in terms of distance?  -  about what you would observe Tiger to
be doing.

the v^2 thing is important..  10 additional mph in sweet spot speed to a swing
measuring 100 mph translates to 20 yards.  and as you get to 120 mph swings,
an additional 10 mph on top of that is 25 yards.  so from a swing with a sweet-
spot speed of 100 to one with a sss of 130 you get an increase in distance of
68 yards.  I get 250 yards with a normal driver and my swing speed has been
around 105 most of this year.   250 + 68 = 318..  I think Tiger has clubs
matched to his height, so there would be even more length added..  I drive
300 with my 1.5" overlength driver..

But there you go, it isn't superhuman, it is just a well-timed swing, a 2-piece
ball, and an xtra-stiff shaft for an xtra-smoothly accelerating swing which
may only be at most 5% better than anyone else's.

Thanks,
Rick

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Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Mann Steph » Fri, 11 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> it is the swing.  it is the ball.  it is the shaft.  it is the hard earth and
> grass.  it is how they are all synchronized and matched to one another.  it is
> very simple.  
> if kinetic energy = 1/2 * m * v^2 - and if you can create a sweet spot swing
> speed of 135 mph with a downward vector at impact that creates 12% more
> backspin and ball flight/lift than anyone else in the world - what does that
> translate to in terms of distance?  -  about what you would observe Tiger to
> be doing.
> the v^2 thing is important..  10 additional mph in sweet spot speed to a swing
> measuring 100 mph translates to 20 yards.  and as you get to 120 mph swings,
> an additional 10 mph on top of that is 25 yards.  so from a swing with a sweet-
> spot speed of 100 to one with a sss of 130 you get an increase in distance of
> 68 yards.  I get 250 yards with a normal driver and my swing speed has been
> around 105 most of this year.   250 + 68 = 318..  I think Tiger has clubs
> matched to his height, so there would be even more length added..  I drive
> 300 with my 1.5" overlength driver..
> But there you go, it isn't superhuman, it is just a well-timed swing, a 2-piece
> ball, and an xtra-stiff shaft for an xtra-smoothly accelerating swing which
> may only be at most 5% better than anyone else's.

Ahh..that would all be correct...except...he doesn't use a two-piece ball.
OH well, a lot of math for nothing. ;')

--
--Steve

                Golfers are the true gentlemen of Sport.

 
 
 

Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by miko » Fri, 11 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> How does he do it?
> It doesn't appear that he is a huge person and he doesn't take a
> tremendous backswing like Daly does.  The only thing I noticed is that he
> stands rather upright and has a steep approach to the ball.  But still!

"      There seems to be little doubt Tiger does have the game,
according to
       an ad hoc panel of experts polled by GOLF DIGEST.

       Tiger's calling card is his length off the tee. In his first two
weeks
       on tour, his average driving distance was 312.3 yards, 25 yards
beyond
       the lengthy standard set by heretofore leader John Daly's
287.2-yard
       average. While it's easy to see where Daly gets his distance,
spotting
       Woods' power source in a classic swing that Jack Nicklaus has
called
       the most fundamentally sound he's ever seen, requires a more
subtle
       eye.

       Although Tiger may not look it at 6-foot-2 and 155 pounds, he is
strong
       and flexible, owing to his work in the weight room. This allows
him to
       make a huge shoulder turn over minimal hip rotation and build a
       tremendous amount of energy at the top of the backswing. The key
is
       the *** release of this energy as his lower body unwinds in
the
       downswing. "His hips are very quick through the ball," explains
David
       Leadbetter. "The club is still going back as he's coming down."
The
       effect is like snapping a whip.

       "Tiger's got the fastest rotational speed I haveever seen,"
observes
       Rick Smith. Correspondingly, his arms--and clubhead--are just as
fast.

from:
      Tiger power: What makes him so long--and so special
      http://SportToday.org/
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Tiger Woods--How does he hit so far??

Post by Rick Nels » Tue, 15 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>  downswing. "His hips are very quick through the ball," explains David
>  Leadbetter. "The club is still going back as he's coming down."
>  The effect is like snapping a whip.

> from:
>       Tiger power: What makes him so long--and so special
>       http://www.golf.com/golfdigest/profiles/tigerpwr.htm

A smooth acceleration all the way through starting with a quick change in
direction at the top the creates more bend in an X100 shaft than anyone could
have imagined possible - and a very well-timed *Sproing* as the clubhead meets
the ball..

Or is it he is hitting Top-Flite Hot XL's?   I get 15 more yards easy with
those or HP Distance's than with a Balata 3-piece liquid center.  Just can't
putt or chip with them.  :\  Maybe Tiger's greatness is that he is best putter
ever and can actually out-shortgame pros who are using Tour Balatas while using
the Hot XL himself.

Thanks,
Rick

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