Problems hitting woods and long irons

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by SYD » Tue, 18 Oct 1994 11:51:04


This is my second year playing golf and it seems that the weakpoints in my
game are my drives and long irons.  Why is it so hard to hit woods and
long irons?  I have problems hitting my 3 and 4 irons.  It's a good thing
I don't have a 2 iron.  Somebody tell me why I'm having problems.  I play
with Maxfli 357 clubs .  thanks for your help.
 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by Ronnie Douthi » Wed, 19 Oct 1994 07:45:52


Quote:


>: I'm not a Mark Koenig, but I play one on TV :^)  

>Ahem, Ronnie, they don't build elevator golf shoes.  :-)

Hey, don't be so sure.  The 70's are back and with advanced technology,
don't be surprised if someone comes out with a set of super mechanical
platform shoes :^)

... we now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

                        -ROn

 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by Padmanabhan Premkum » Tue, 18 Oct 1994 23:55:43

Quote:

>This is my second year playing golf and it seems that the weakpoints in my
>game are my drives and long irons.  Why is it so hard to hit woods and
>long irons?  I have problems hitting my 3 and 4 irons.  It's a good thing
>I don't have a 2 iron.  Somebody tell me why I'm having problems.  I play
>with Maxfli 357 clubs .  thanks for your help.

Tell me about it. I had my first birdie yesterday on a Par 3 135 yds.

Give me a PW, 9 or 8 Iron and under 135 yds, I feel I can take on Jack
Nicklaus.

Give me a Driver or 3 Wood, I feel I can take on the neighbouring fairway.
(up to 250 yards forward).

Give me a 3 Iron and I can't hit to the womens tee from the mens tee.

Come on Mark Koenig, you sound like a great guy. Help us with this one!

Prem

 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by Ronnie Douthi » Wed, 19 Oct 1994 06:06:46


Quote:


>>This is my second year playing golf and it seems that the weakpoints in my
>>game are my drives and long irons.  Why is it so hard to hit woods and

...
>Give me a 3 Iron and I can't hit to the womens tee from the mens tee.

>Come on Mark Koenig, you sound like a great guy. Help us with this one!

I'm not a Mark Koenig, but I play one on TV :^)  Mark, man your a living
r.s.g legend.

Anyway, it's pretty hard for us to give swing advice when we can't
see your swing -- even if we could, it'd still be hard for us to give
you advice that would help.  But, I can tell you what has helped me
get better with the long irons and woods.  When you swing a PW, your
swing should be much more upright than when you swing a driver.  I've worked
a lot on swinging each club on the correct plane.  As you address the ball,
there is a distinct angle between the shaft and the ground.  This angle
gets flatter as the clubs get longer.  If you swing along the plane
defined by this angle, you'll have the correct swing plane for each club.
Then, all you have to do is get all of the OTHER swing mechanics correct,
and you'll be hitting solid 3 irons in no time :^)  To get a head start on
that, take a lesson from a pro.

                            -Ron

 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by Mark Koen » Wed, 19 Oct 1994 06:49:44

: I'm not a Mark Koenig, but I play one on TV :^)  

Ahem, Ronnie, they don't build elevator golf shoes.  :-)

: Mark, man your a living r.s.g legend.

Unfortunately mostly for sticking to the Rules.

I don't like to give swing advice because I am not a Pro.  I was taught
by a great Pro (Patsy, have you seen him yet?).  He taught me many things
about the game, one of the things that sticks with me is that I should never
teach the game until I master it and never take lessons from another Pro
if I ever wanted to come back and see him.  

Every now and then (maybe twice, Ronnie?) I have offered a bit of advice
while watching someone play a round, but it is usually about course
management.

: ...take a lesson from a pro.

This is the best advice I am qualified to give without seeing your swing, etc.

Good Putting!
Mark
--
Mark Koenig, Ports-R-Us, Technical Marketing, Convex Computer Corp.

 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by John D. Mill » Thu, 20 Oct 1994 03:09:55

Quote:
Ron Douthit writes:



>>: I'm not a Mark Koenig, but I play one on TV :^)  

>>Ahem, Ronnie, they don't build elevator golf shoes.  :-)
>Hey, don't be so sure.  The 70's are back and with advanced technology,
>don't be surprised if someone comes out with a set of super mechanical
>platform shoes :^)
>... we now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

 Well I hope they have the spikeless soles!!! PPC comment.

(Perfuntory Politically Correect comment).

regards,
Jack

 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by Ronnie Douthi » Thu, 20 Oct 1994 08:50:24



Quote:

>[...
>> long irons?  I have problems hitting my 3 and 4 irons.  It's a good thing
>So, SY!  Try playing the ball farther forward in your stance with long irons and
>woods than you do with the shorter clubs.

Are you serious ?  This goes against every thing I've ever read or have
been taught.

                        -Ron

 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by Mark Koen » Thu, 20 Oct 1994 10:31:34


: Try playing the ball farther forward in your stance with long irons and
: woods than you do with the shorter clubs.

: Are you serious ?  This goes against every thing I've ever read or have
: been taught.

Ah, Ronnie, James is right.  The long the club, the farther forward it should
be in your stance compared to a shorter club.

Maybe you've been working too hard?  :-)  Need a golf day?

Good Putting!
Mark
--
Mark Koenig, Ports-R-Us, Technical Marketing, Convex Computer Corp.

 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by James F. Ti » Thu, 20 Oct 1994 06:33:13

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Quote:
> long irons?  I have problems hitting my 3 and 4 irons.  It's a good thing
> I don't have a 2 iron.  Somebody tell me why I'm having problems.  I play
> with Maxfli 357 clubs .  thanks for your help.

First, even if it's fictitious, give us a monicker, ok SYD3? (I'll just call you SY,
for now. 8^)

So, SY!  Try playing the ball farther forward in your stance with long irons and
woods than you do with the shorter clubs.

--
Jim Tims
Now if you're a miner, when you're too tired and old and sick and
stupid to do your job properly, you have to go, whereas just the
opposite applies with the judges. --  Beyond the Fringe

 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by k.. » Wed, 19 Oct 1994 08:27:21

I have had similar problems and found one piece of advise that seems to help and
 can do no harm.  I tended to overswing when hitting long irons.  If I used the
same swing tempo and effort as I did with the short irons, I got much better
results.

For what it is worth.

 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by Ernie Hamb » Sat, 22 Oct 1994 14:16:55

Gentlemen.  Ball position is more a result than a cause since its location
(back or forward in the stance) is determined largely by something called
the "natural face progression" of the club.  The face of a wood is actually
on the outside of the shaft (as you look down) while a shorter iron is offset
giving the appearance that the ball is moved back in the stance.  The position
of the arms and hands is very, very, very similar no matter what club you're
playing.  Problems hitting long irons and woods is more often times than not
an amplification of other problems.  Think about this; when was the last time
you saw someone slice a sand wedge from 80 yards?  Golf is just really hard
when it comes to these clubs.  Moving the ball to far forward actually increases
the chances of a bad shot since the club may not be traveling along its intended path anymore.   To answer the question more questions about the swing need
to be asked.  Moving the ball forward may not be the best "first choice" in
this case.  We need more information.  ---------- E. Hamby, Golf Professional
--
Ernie Hamby
Anchorage, Alaska
 
 
 

Problems hitting woods and long irons

Post by Ronnie Douthi » Thu, 20 Oct 1994 23:11:37


Quote:


>: Try playing the ball farther forward in your stance with long irons and
>: woods than you do with the shorter clubs.


>: Are you serious ?  This goes against every thing I've ever read or have
>: been taught.

>Ah, Ronnie, James is right.  The long the club, the farther forward it should
>be in your stance compared to a shorter club.

>Maybe you've been working too hard?  :-)  Need a golf day?

 Maybe so.  I could have sworn he wrote "back" instead of "forward."  
 Unfortunately for me, the text is included and it's clear I misread the
 post.  How my brain could have tricked me is beyond me.

 Sorry James.

                    -Ron