Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by Shapot » Sun, 22 Oct 2000 04:00:00


has anyone ever seen him play this poorly?  He looks like a hacker out there
when you put his play up against what the other Americans are doing.  I wonder
if he should've played in a more recent tournament to get warmed up for this
event because he doesn't look good at all.
 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by Bruc » Sun, 22 Oct 2000 04:00:00

In rec.sport.golf

Quote:

>has anyone ever seen him play this poorly?  He looks like a hacker out there
>when you put his play up against what the other Americans are doing.  I wonder
>if he should've played in a more recent tournament to get warmed up for this
>event because he doesn't look good at all.

I just commented to my son that you would never see him play this poorly in
a major.  I think he just doesn't get up for these events.  He doesn't care
enough.

 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by jowal » Sun, 22 Oct 2000 04:00:00

Your observation reminds me of Fuzzy's remark to a spectator: You wouldn't
know a good shot if you saw one.

Note Ells, No 2 ranked, and 0-4, but apparently in your eyes that's not
worth comment .


Quote:
> has anyone ever seen him play this poorly?  He looks like a hacker out
there
> when you put his play up against what the other Americans are doing.  I
wonder
> if he should've played in a more recent tournament to get warmed up for
this
> event because he doesn't look good at all.


 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by Joseph N. Hal » Sun, 22 Oct 2000 04:00:00

Why he hasn't done better in fourball competition is a mystery
to me, but you can't argue about his record in other forms of
match play.

He broke his driver after the first one or two holes he played
Thursday (?) and really hasn't seemed comfortable with whatever
the replacement or repair is.  I'm not sure which match it was
but something came loose in the head early in the round.

He has to take time off because very soon he will be playing in
a half dozen events all around the world one right after
another: Disney (defending), Tour Championship (defending),
Valderrama (defending), EMC World Cup (sort of defending),
Grand Slam of Golf (defending), then the January events, etc.

The other thing that really seems to bother him in fourball is
the pace of play.  I don't know why Venturi didn't send him out
in the first group.  Instead, Venturi sent Jim "Roadblock" Furyk
out first and the result was it took over FIVE HOURS for Furyk and
Sutton to win in 13 holes.

  -joseph

Quote:

> has anyone ever seen him play this poorly?  He looks like a hacker out there
> when you put his play up against what the other Americans are doing.  I wonder
> if he should've played in a more recent tournament to get warmed up for this
> event because he doesn't look good at all.

 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by KenPit » Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:59:13

You obviously must attack any negative comment about Tiger.

Since Tiger is a deity in so many eyes around here, it certainly
becomes monumental when he is unable to perform his usual miracles.

This just proves what I always say about golf. Every day is a
different day. Tiger is mortal after all.

Ken

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



Quote:
>Your observation reminds me of Fuzzy's remark to a spectator: You wouldn't
>know a good shot if you saw one.

>Note Ells, No 2 ranked, and 0-4, but apparently in your eyes that's not
>worth comment .



>> has anyone ever seen him play this poorly?  He looks like a hacker out
>there
>> when you put his play up against what the other Americans are doing.  I
>wonder
>> if he should've played in a more recent tournament to get warmed up for
>this
>> event because he doesn't look good at all.

 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by Bruc » Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:59:13

In rec.sport.golf

Quote:

>I think he cared greatly. All you had to do was look at his
>expressions and you should know he cared. Why aren't you asking if
>Els(0-4) or Singh(1-3) care?

Because I live in the USA and am rooting for my team.  I hope ALL the
internationals puke.  You know, it wasn't just me.  I heard the announcers
say the same thing, quote "It looks like someone flipped a switch on
eleven."  That is when he obviously started trying.
 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by Colin Wilso » Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Your observation reminds me of Fuzzy's remark to a spectator: You wouldn't
> know a good shot if you saw one.
> Note Els, No 2 ranked, and 0-4, but apparently in your eyes that's not
> worth comment .

And No. 9 ranked Singh (who with Goosen beat Woods and Begay today) is
1-3.

The biggest dfference between the two teams is exactly the reverse of
what it was last time ... the Americans can hardly miss a putt, and the
Internationals can hardly get one.

Cheers
Colin Wilson
Australian handicap: 10.7
RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/wilsonc.htm

 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by Kenny Stul » Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>Why he hasn't done better in fourball competition is a mystery
>to me, but you can't argue about his record in other forms of
>match play.

>He broke his driver after the first one or two holes he played
>Thursday (?) and really hasn't seemed comfortable with whatever
>the replacement or repair is.  I'm not sure which match it was
>but something came loose in the head early in the round.

He broke his driver on the range Friday morning before the fourball
competition.  He had a spare driver with him, but he had left it in his hotel
room.  Someone was sent for it and he had it by the third hole

<snip>

Kenny

-----------------------------------------------------
Kenny Stultz
RSG Roll Call: http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/stultzk.htm

 
 
 

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Post by Joseph N. Hal » Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:00:00

Quote:


> >Why he hasn't done better in fourball competition is a mystery
> >to me, but you can't argue about his record in other forms of
> >match play.

> >He broke his driver after the first one or two holes he played
> >Thursday (?) and really hasn't seemed comfortable with whatever
> >the replacement or repair is.  I'm not sure which match it was
> >but something came loose in the head early in the round.

> He broke his driver on the range Friday morning before the fourball
> competition.  He had a spare driver with him, but he had left it in his hotel
> room.  Someone was sent for it and he had it by the third hole

Thanks for the correction.  I was having real trouble finding the
details.  Tiger really hasn't seemed comfortable with his driver since
Friday and has probably hit, what, 30% of the fairways?  If that many.
I don't think the spare driver is an exact fit.

  -joseph

 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by Keith Friese » Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:00:00

Now come on.  you golf.  you know what it's like to WANT to do well and try
hard but sometimes that just isn't enough.  Sometimes you just aren't in the
grove.  Tiger is only human (believe it or not).

Keith


Quote:
> In rec.sport.golf

> >I think he cared greatly. All you had to do was look at his
> >expressions and you should know he cared. Why aren't you asking if
> >Els(0-4) or Singh(1-3) care?

> Because I live in the USA and am rooting for my team.  I hope ALL the
> internationals puke.  You know, it wasn't just me.  I heard the announcers
> say the same thing, quote "It looks like someone flipped a switch on
> eleven."  That is when he obviously started trying.

 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by Kenny Stul » Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:00:00

We're getting a lot of the details in the paper since the event is local.  You
might try the online edition of the Washington Post, although I don't know if
that will have all the articles from the print edition.  There was another
interesting story along those lines this morning about some official who had to
meet an airplane in the middle of the night to get parts for the 7 iron David
Duval wrapped around a tree.  Some clubmaker from Bethesda was up in the wee
hours of the morning re-shafting the club.

I think you're right about Tiger's spare driver not quite being like the
original.  He doesn't seem to be having trouble with his other clubs.

Kenny


Quote:



says...

>> >Why he hasn't done better in fourball competition is a mystery
>> >to me, but you can't argue about his record in other forms of
>> >match play.

>> >He broke his driver after the first one or two holes he played
>> >Thursday (?) and really hasn't seemed comfortable with whatever
>> >the replacement or repair is.  I'm not sure which match it was
>> >but something came loose in the head early in the round.

>> He broke his driver on the range Friday morning before the fourball
>> competition.  He had a spare driver with him, but he had left it in his
hotel
>> room.  Someone was sent for it and he had it by the third hole

>Thanks for the correction.  I was having real trouble finding the
>details.  Tiger really hasn't seemed comfortable with his driver since
>Friday and has probably hit, what, 30% of the fairways?  If that many.
>I don't think the spare driver is an exact fit.

>  -joseph

 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by jowal » Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:00:00

And you have a nauseatingly long track record of attacking Tiger and  so
many rsg posters have said so.
For the record, I don't deify Woods - I respect his game.  You should, too.
For anyone to say he's looking like a hacker is worse than absurd.
Speaking of hackers, you've called me and others who point out your illogic
exactly that - hackers.
I thought of you and those comments when Tom Lehman, commenting on his own
poor play, said, We were hitting it sideways, looking like a couple of 4
handicappers just choppin it around out there.
Guess he thinks you're a hacker, Ken.  Is he right?


Quote:
> You obviously must attack any negative comment about Tiger.

> Since Tiger is a deity in so many eyes around here, it certainly
> becomes monumental when he is unable to perform his usual miracles.

> This just proves what I always say about golf. Every day is a
> different day. Tiger is mortal after all.

> Ken

> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



> >Your observation reminds me of Fuzzy's remark to a spectator: You
wouldn't
> >know a good shot if you saw one.

> >Note Ells, No 2 ranked, and 0-4, but apparently in your eyes that's not
> >worth comment .



> >> has anyone ever seen him play this poorly?  He looks like a hacker out
> >there
> >> when you put his play up against what the other Americans are doing.  I
> >wonder
> >> if he should've played in a more recent tournament to get warmed up for
> >this
> >> event because he doesn't look good at all.

 
 
 

Tiger's play at the President's Cup

Post by Joseph N. Hal » Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> I think you're right about Tiger's spare driver not quite being like the
> original.  He doesn't seem to be having trouble with his other clubs.

Notice how he "drove" the ball much better today, hitting irons and
3 woods pretty much all day.

  -joseph