Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by gp » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:00:07


Anybody heard about this??

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Rich Beem is "insulted," he's insulted by the new AT&T National
tournament to be hosted by Tiger Woods in DC on the week of July 4th.
The previous tournament in DC had an open field, and that's what Beem
and other are complaining about. "It's the most totally wrong thing
I've heard of in a long time that's sticking it to the players," Beem
said.

"I was shocked when I heard that," Brad Faxon said. "We've got players
looking for spots, and we're replacing a tournament that had a full
field. With the amount of tournaments we have that are invitationals,
it doesn't make sense to do more." There already are at least 7
"invite only" tourneys on the tour. So if you're not that good or
can't get an invite, how are you supposed to make a living on tour?

 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by John van der Pflu » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:05:07


Quote:
>Anybody heard about this??

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>Rich Beem is "insulted," he's insulted by the new AT&T National
>tournament to be hosted by Tiger Woods in DC on the week of July 4th.
>The previous tournament in DC had an open field, and that's what Beem
>and other are complaining about. "It's the most totally wrong thing
>I've heard of in a long time that's sticking it to the players," Beem
>said.

>"I was shocked when I heard that," Brad Faxon said. "We've got players
>looking for spots, and we're replacing a tournament that had a full
>field. With the amount of tournaments we have that are invitationals,
>it doesn't make sense to do more." There already are at least 7
>"invite only" tourneys on the tour. So if you're not that good or
>can't get an invite, how are you supposed to make a living on tour?

LOL.  A guy making $1,000,000 plus playing a game complaining that
he's having a hard time "making a living."  Classic.  
--

jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by \ » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:15:17

Quote:

> So if you're not that good or can't get an invite,
> how are you supposed to make a living on tour?

Get better.  Or suck up to Tiger.  Or both.

There.  Your problem's solved.

Next stupid question.

Randy

 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by Bobby Knigh » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:17:12

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:05:07 -0400, John van der Pflum

Quote:


>>Anybody heard about this??

>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>Rich Beem is "insulted," he's insulted by the new AT&T National
>>tournament to be hosted by Tiger Woods in DC on the week of July 4th.
>>The previous tournament in DC had an open field, and that's what Beem
>>and other are complaining about. "It's the most totally wrong thing
>>I've heard of in a long time that's sticking it to the players," Beem
>>said.

>>"I was shocked when I heard that," Brad Faxon said. "We've got players
>>looking for spots, and we're replacing a tournament that had a full
>>field. With the amount of tournaments we have that are invitationals,
>>it doesn't make sense to do more." There already are at least 7
>>"invite only" tourneys on the tour. So if you're not that good or
>>can't get an invite, how are you supposed to make a living on tour?

>LOL.  A guy making $1,000,000 plus playing a game complaining that
>he's having a hard time "making a living."  Classic.  

Beem and Faxon weren't  speaking of their  situation, but of the
lesser players' on tour.   The guys that are trying to keep their card
and are on the bubble lose another tournament that could help them.  
  ___,  
  \o    
   |    
  / \  
     .  
Someone likes every shot
bk
 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by sfb » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:17:28

That Beem and Faxon are playing a game for millions of dollars, doesn't mean
they aren't making a valid point.

The increase in invitational tournaments is back dooring some of the better
players into the lesser tournaments. The Tour has a requirement to play 15
events a year. Why should Tiger and Phil get their 15 in invitationals while
forcing the unwashed to play the likes of the John Deere?

If the Tour thinks the Deere and other tournaments need names to survive,
then everybody including Tiger should be carrying some of the load.



Quote:

>>Anybody heard about this??

>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>Rich Beem is "insulted," he's insulted by the new AT&T National
>>tournament to be hosted by Tiger Woods in DC on the week of July 4th.
>>The previous tournament in DC had an open field, and that's what Beem
>>and other are complaining about. "It's the most totally wrong thing
>>I've heard of in a long time that's sticking it to the players," Beem
>>said.

>>"I was shocked when I heard that," Brad Faxon said. "We've got players
>>looking for spots, and we're replacing a tournament that had a full
>>field. With the amount of tournaments we have that are invitationals,
>>it doesn't make sense to do more." There already are at least 7
>>"invite only" tourneys on the tour. So if you're not that good or
>>can't get an invite, how are you supposed to make a living on tour?

> LOL.  A guy making $1,000,000 plus playing a game complaining that
> he's having a hard time "making a living."  Classic.
> --

> jvdp
> RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by John van der Pflu » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:26:53

Quote:

>That Beem and Faxon are playing a game for millions of dollars, doesn't mean
>they aren't making a valid point.

>The increase in invitational tournaments is back dooring some of the better
>players into the lesser tournaments. The Tour has a requirement to play 15
>events a year. Why should Tiger and Phil get their 15 in invitationals while
>forcing the unwashed to play the likes of the John Deere?

Umm, maybe because they earned it by playing better?  Are you implying
the Masters should invite the guy who finished 179th on the money list
because he needs it more than Tiger and Phil?

Play better.
Get invited to more tournaments.  

Simple.  
--

jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by sfb » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:32:13

Please don't use the  Masters as the counter  argument for anything the PGA
Tour does as the Masters is not a PGA Tour event.

All PGA Tour events should be full field using the normal PGA exempt list
for entering.



Quote:

>>That Beem and Faxon are playing a game for millions of dollars, doesn't
>>mean
>>they aren't making a valid point.

>>The increase in invitational tournaments is back dooring some of the
>>better
>>players into the lesser tournaments. The Tour has a requirement to play 15
>>events a year. Why should Tiger and Phil get their 15 in invitationals
>>while
>>forcing the unwashed to play the likes of the John Deere?

> Umm, maybe because they earned it by playing better?  Are you implying
> the Masters should invite the guy who finished 179th on the money list
> because he needs it more than Tiger and Phil?

> Play better.
> Get invited to more tournaments.

> Simple.
> --

> jvdp
> RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by Frank Ketchu » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:39:02


Quote:

> Beem and Faxon weren't  speaking of their  situation, but of the
> lesser players' on tour.   The guys that are trying to keep their card
> and are on the bubble lose another tournament that could help them.

The guys on the bubble of keeping their cards are competing against other
players on the bubble of keeping their cards.  I don't see how this
tournament hurts or benefits any of the players in danger of losing their
card.
 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by 3Putt from South Carolin » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:52:09


Quote:

>> So if you're not that good or can't get an invite,
>> how are you supposed to make a living on tour?

> Get better.  Or suck up to Tiger.  Or both.

> There.  Your problem's solved.

> Next stupid question.

> Randy

OK.  I want to be the first to ask:  Who will win the U.S. Open this year?
Rich Beem maybe?  I doubt it.  Too much partying and not enough focus.  Come
visit the Hooties after the Masters event and see what I mean.
 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by John van der Pflu » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:53:06

Quote:

>Please don't use the  Masters as the counter  argument for anything the PGA
>Tour does as the Masters is not a PGA Tour event.

>All PGA Tour events should be full field using the normal PGA exempt list
>for entering.

Play better.  

Get invited.
--

jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by Bobby Knigh » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:07:09

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:26:53 -0400, John van der Pflum

Quote:


>>That Beem and Faxon are playing a game for millions of dollars, doesn't mean
>>they aren't making a valid point.

>>The increase in invitational tournaments is back dooring some of the better
>>players into the lesser tournaments. The Tour has a requirement to play 15
>>events a year. Why should Tiger and Phil get their 15 in invitationals while
>>forcing the unwashed to play the likes of the John Deere?

>Umm, maybe because they earned it by playing better?  Are you implying
>the Masters should invite the guy who finished 179th on the money list
>because he needs it more than Tiger and Phil?

>Play better.
>Get invited to more tournaments.  

>Simple.  

There are several invitational tournaments on tour, and to eliminate
an full-field tournament to have another limited field tournament is a
sorry thing to do.  It eliminates a chance for the guys on the bubble
to keep their card, or get FedEx points.

The Masters is a different animal.  Those spots are predetermined, and
playing better can get you in.  Playing better hasn't a ***ing thing
to do with several of the invitationals, including this one.  
  ___,  
  \o    
   |    
  / \  
     .  
Someone likes every shot
bk

 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by Bobby Knigh » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:10:59

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:39:02 -0400, "Frank Ketchum"

Quote:



>> Beem and Faxon weren't  speaking of their  situation, but of the
>> lesser players' on tour.   The guys that are trying to keep their card
>> and are on the bubble lose another tournament that could help them.

>The guys on the bubble of keeping their cards are competing against other
>players on the bubble of keeping their cards.  I don't see how this
>tournament hurts or benefits any of the players in danger of losing their
>card.

The more money you make, the better chance to keep their card.  The
more tournaments they play, the better chance to make more money.
What if one player on the bubble is invited to this tournament, and
another isn't.  That didn't happen for the tournament it replaced.

Is that too hard for you to comprehend?
  ___,  
  \o    
   |    
  / \  
     .  
Someone likes every shot
bk

 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by Bobby Knigh » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:13:35

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:53:06 -0400, John van der Pflum

Quote:


>>Please don't use the  Masters as the counter  argument for anything the PGA
>>Tour does as the Masters is not a PGA Tour event.

>>All PGA Tour events should be full field using the normal PGA exempt list
>>for entering.

>Play better.  

>Get invited.

Reading challenged John?  You're missing the point by a mile.  Playing
better doesn't get you into all invitationals.  
  ___,  
  \o    
   |    
  / \  
     .  
Someone likes every shot
bk
 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by Howard Braze » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:15:09



Quote:
>The Masters is a different animal.  Those spots are predetermined, and
>playing better can get you in.  Playing better hasn't a ***ing thing
>to do with several of the invitationals, including this one.  

Several old open tournaments became invitational when it appeared that
blacks were likely to qualify.    I would think Tiger is aware of that
history.
 
 
 

Rich Beem "insulted" by Tiger's "invite-only" tourney in DC

Post by Frank Ketchu » Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:16:53


Quote:

> The more money you make, the better chance to keep their card.  The
> more tournaments they play, the better chance to make more money.
> What if one player on the bubble is invited to this tournament, and
> another isn't.  That didn't happen for the tournament it replaced.

Well I guess if the tournament invites some players on the bubble then I see
it.  I didn't assume that invitational tournaments invite many players
struggling to stay on the tour.

Quote:

> Is that too hard for you to comprehend?

Thanks for making your point without being an ***.