The long driver Zuback and John Daly both have identical swings in that
their clubhead almost hits the left knee. Doesn't seem to hurt their
games....
FWIW
GH
me
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Bryan D. Greer
Tulsa, OK
bdgreer1 at cox dot net
I was amazed when I discovered that when I tried to do a 3/4 swing in front of
such a camera, it was exactly parallel.
An easy way to do this is to view your backswing as a clock dial & limit
the top of your swing to say 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock, e.g. It gives you a
good visualization clue & should help increase your precision. Works for
me when my swing gets a little loose.
YMMV...
If you do these, you will find it hard to go much past parallel,
unless you are extremely flexible.
Keeping a flat left wrist at the top also helps.
> If you do these, you will find it hard to go much past parallel,
> unless you are extremely flexible.
> Keeping a flat left wrist at the top also helps.
Do you mean such that the club might slip out of your hand? Or do you mean, so
that the club doesn't get***ed by your backwards movement?
I don't reverse pivot and my left elbow is pretty straight - but I am quite
flexible and it is very easy for me to have too much back-swing.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
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I used to overswing and then have to come over the top just so I could
mishit badly for all my effort. My problem was that I wanted to feel
some kind of stretch so I could rebound against it and knock the ***
out of the ball. All wrong.
Try this,instead of focusing on how far past parallel you're going,
focus instead on making a complete honest to god 90* shoulder turn. I
bet if you do that, keep your left arm fairly straight and your left
wrist flat, that'll give you enough of that stretch feeling that you
won't feel you need to go past parallel. . .
All caveats apply, hacker not a pro, "get lessons from your local PGA
pro" etc, etc. . .
> I am curious about "Don't loosen your grip at the top".
> Do you mean such that the club might slip out of your hand? Or do you
mean, so
> that the club doesn't get***ed by your backwards movement?
> I don't reverse pivot and my left elbow is pretty straight - but I am
quite
> flexible and it is very easy for me to have too much back-swing.
> > - Don't let your left elbow bend (more than just a little).
> > - Don't loosen your grip at the top.
> > - Don't reverse pivot.
> > If you do these, you will find it hard to go much past parallel,
> > unless you are extremely flexible.
> > Keeping a flat left wrist at the top also helps.
> I am curious about "Don't loosen your grip at the top".
> Do you mean such that the club might slip out of your hand? Or do you mean, so
> that the club doesn't get***ed by your backwards movement?
> I don't reverse pivot and my left elbow is pretty straight - but I am quite
> flexible and it is very easy for me to have too much back-swing.
Regarding the grip, common problems are loosening the last three fingers
of the left hand (like Bobby Jones used to do on purpose, but you aren't
Bobby Jones), or letting the club slide down in the notch between your
thumb and left hand, or letting your two hands come apart at the top.
You can check for problems by sticking tees between the ***of the club
and the palm of your left hand, and in various other cracks and crevices
in your grip and then taking a swing to see if any of them fall out. If they
do, you will know where something is getting loose.
If you are still getting more than 90* of wristcock, though, you might
consider going to the weaker grip with the left hand & flat wrist at
the top that I talked about before. This forces the wristcock to
be a purely radial motion of the left hand that, in itself, limits
the amount of wristcock that can occur. Why is this a good idea?
Well, if you have a 90* angle, when you start the downswing the
pull that is in effect exerted on the clubshaft is straight down
the shaft, so things don't wobble around so much.
But I would take a long, hard look at that left elbow. That's where
the problem usually is.
> John Daly's wrists are very flexible, and he doesn't think he has too much
> backswing. But his grip is consistent - it doesn't loosen so the club has
> "wiggle room". It's almost impossible for the club to fall out of your
> hand, but it's real easy for it to "dip". You just want to have the wrists
>***ed before that top of the backswing. Otherwise that "dip" move can
> cause a lot of inconsistency.
Regarding the grip, dip, and wiggle room:
I read a golf mag (the one with an article about a chicken swing) on
the way to AZ, that touted improving the drive by teeing up higher and
not grounding the driver. Not a new concept, but I'd never been
interested in trying it so I did at my next practice session.
Hanging the club from the hands caused me to grip a little firmer and
reduced any "wiggly" feel I may have had when grounding the club. Kept
the wigglies out at the top a little better, too.
Being clear of the ground of course eliminated catching in the grass
at the takeaway which was nice.
One thing I didn't like was the feeling in the wrists and hands as the
club's weight torqued the hands down.
I tried it with the irons too, lifting less, like ~1cm for irons,
~2plus cm for driver. The jury is still out on both.
-Gray
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