>Maybe it should be the other way... that the current should
>have to win by 1/2 point. It would make the cup circulate
>more what I think is a good thing.
: >Subject: Why does Ryder Cup tie go to current cup holder?
: >From: "formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
: >Date: 19/09/04 19:12 GMT Daylight Time
: >
: >Maybe it should be the other way... that the current should
: >have to win by 1/2 point. It would make the cup circulate
: >more what I think is a good thing.
:
: You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I see no
other
: sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so that a
draw
: is no longer possible.
I don't see though why you have to beat the other guy to take it
away. It would be just as easy to say you have to beat the other
guy to retain the cup, especially since the holder has an advantage.
> : >Subject: Why does Ryder Cup tie go to current cup holder?
> : >From: "formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
> : >Date: 19/09/04 19:12 GMT Daylight Time
> : >
> : >Maybe it should be the other way... that the current should
> : >have to win by 1/2 point. It would make the cup circulate
> : >more what I think is a good thing.
> :
> : You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I see no
> other
> : sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so that a
> draw
> : is no longer possible.
> I don't see though why you have to beat the other guy to take it
> away. It would be just as easy to say you have to beat the other
> guy to retain the cup, especially since the holder has an advantage.
Ben
>>: >Subject: Why does Ryder Cup tie go to current cup holder?
>>: >From: "formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
>>: >Date: 19/09/04 19:12 GMT Daylight Time
>>: >
>>: >Maybe it should be the other way... that the current should
>>: >have to win by 1/2 point. It would make the cup circulate
>>: >more what I think is a good thing.
>>:
>>: You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I see no
>>other
>>: sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so that a
>>draw
>>: is no longer possible.
>>I don't see though why you have to beat the other guy to take it
>>away. It would be just as easy to say you have to beat the other
>>guy to retain the cup, especially since the holder has an advantage.
> Eaxctly what advantage did being holders of the cup give the European team
> have coming into this weekend ? Some of the players had pictures from two
> years ago with it?
--
bill-o
:
wrote
: >
: > : >Subject: Why does Ryder Cup tie go to current cup holder?
: > : >From: "formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
: > : >Date: 19/09/04 19:12 GMT Daylight Time
: > : >
: > : >Maybe it should be the other way... that the current should
: > : >have to win by 1/2 point. It would make the cup circulate
: > : >more what I think is a good thing.
: > :
: > : You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I see
no
: > other
: > : sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so that
a
: > draw
: > : is no longer possible.
: >
: > I don't see though why you have to beat the other guy to take it
: > away. It would be just as easy to say you have to beat the other
: > guy to retain the cup, especially since the holder has an advantage.
:
: Eaxctly what advantage did being holders of the cup give the European team
: have coming into this weekend ? Some of the players had pictures from two
: years ago with it?
:
:
Wouldn't you say that the defending champion has
an advantage in just about everything? I don't mean
in every aspect, just in every sporting event, everything
else being equal. Momentum. Experience. Bragging
rights. And how about the way US fans take apart
their own team if they lose...? That's pressure.
:
:
: > You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I see no
: > other
: > sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so that a
: > draw
: > is no longer possible.
:
: Hows about a tiebreaker?
:
: Ben
That is better. A four hole, random selection,
of 6 twosomes.
>> You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I see no
>> other
>> sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so that a
>> draw
>> is no longer possible.
> Hows about a tiebreaker?
> Ben
>> wrote
>>> : >Subject: Why does Ryder Cup tie go to current cup holder?
>>> : >From: "formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
>>> : >Date: 19/09/04 19:12 GMT Daylight Time
>>> : >
>>> : >Maybe it should be the other way... that the current should
>>> : >have to win by 1/2 point. It would make the cup circulate
>>> : >more what I think is a good thing.
>>> :
>>> : You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I
>>> see no
>>> other
>>> : sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so
>>> that a
>>> draw
>>> : is no longer possible.
>>> I don't see though why you have to beat the other guy to take it
>>> away. It would be just as easy to say you have to beat the other
>>> guy to retain the cup, especially since the holder has an advantage.
>> Eaxctly what advantage did being holders of the cup give the European
>> team
>> have coming into this weekend ? Some of the players had pictures from
>> two
>> years ago with it?
> 1/2 point advantage
Going back to the original question of why a tie goes to the cup-holder: I see
nothing wrong with that. I don't understand how giving the 1/2 point advantage
to the other side makes any sense. Why should they have an advantage? Would
this idea even have been raised if the US were the cupholders?
> That is better. A four hole, random selection,
> of 6 twosomes.
>>> "formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
>>>> : >Subject: Why does Ryder Cup tie go to current cup holder?
>>>> : >From: "formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
>>>> : >Date: 19/09/04 19:12 GMT Daylight Time
>>>> : >
>>>> : >Maybe it should be the other way... that the current should
>>>> : >have to win by 1/2 point. It would make the cup circulate
>>>> : >more what I think is a good thing.
>>>> :
>>>> : You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I
>>>> see no
>>>> other
>>>> : sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so
>>>> that a
>>>> draw
>>>> : is no longer possible.
>>>> I don't see though why you have to beat the other guy to take it
>>>> away. It would be just as easy to say you have to beat the other
>>>> guy to retain the cup, especially since the holder has an advantage.
>>> Eaxctly what advantage did being holders of the cup give the European
>>> team
>>> have coming into this weekend ? Some of the players had pictures
>>> from two
>>> years ago with it?
>> 1/2 point advantage
> The guy is arguing about taking that 1/2 point away, and is saying that
> if you did, the defending champs would STILL have an advantage.
--
bill-o
>>>> "formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
>>>>> : >Subject: Why does Ryder Cup tie go to current cup holder?
>>>>> : >From: "formerly known as 'cat arranger'"
>>>>> : >Date: 19/09/04 19:12 GMT Daylight Time
>>>>> : >
>>>>> : >Maybe it should be the other way... that the current should
>>>>> : >have to win by 1/2 point. It would make the cup circulate
>>>>> : >more what I think is a good thing.
>>>>> :
>>>>> : You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I
>>>>> see no
>>>>> other
>>>>> : sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so
>>>>> that a
>>>>> draw
>>>>> : is no longer possible.
>>>>> I don't see though why you have to beat the other guy to take it
>>>>> away. It would be just as easy to say you have to beat the other
>>>>> guy to retain the cup, especially since the holder has an advantage.
>>>> Eaxctly what advantage did being holders of the cup give the
>>>> European team
>>>> have coming into this weekend ? Some of the players had pictures
>>>> from two
>>>> years ago with it?
>>> 1/2 point advantage
>> The guy is arguing about taking that 1/2 point away, and is saying
>> that if you did, the defending champs would STILL have an advantage.
> Sounds rather baseless as arguments go.
Jochem
> >> You have to beat the other side to take a title away from them. I see
no
> >> other
> >> sensible way of doing it short of arranging the scoring system so that
a
> >> draw
> >> is no longer possible.
> > Hows about a tiebreaker?
> > Ben
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