mis-hitting, off toe consistently, help

mis-hitting, off toe consistently, help

Post by Richard Wildm » Tue, 02 Dec 1997 04:00:00


I have a new set of clubs that I consistently
hit anywhere from 1/2 inch to an inch off
center, towards the toe.  (I expect this
is a long-standing problem, and not necessarily
a result of new clubs -- they just showed it
up clearly.)

All attempts so far to stand closer, farther
away, etc., suggest that I am apparently making
subtle adjustments in my swing to compensate,
resulting in hitting 1/2 to an inch off center,
towards the toe, regardless.

In short, I am very consistent at hitting off
toe, and all adjustments I've tried have not helped.  
Any suggestions on how to correct this.

thanks,

 
 
 

mis-hitting, off toe consistently, help

Post by Ash Harriso » Tue, 02 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Immediately, two questions come to mind.

1.  Have you always hit the ball on the toe?

2.  Have you been properly fitted with your clubs?

Ash

Quote:

>I have a new set of clubs that I consistently
>hit anywhere from 1/2 inch to an inch off
>center, towards the toe.  (I expect this
>is a long-standing problem, and not necessarily
>a result of new clubs -- they just showed it
>up clearly.)

>All attempts so far to stand closer, farther
>away, etc., suggest that I am apparently making
>subtle adjustments in my swing to compensate,
>resulting in hitting 1/2 to an inch off center,
>towards the toe, regardless.

>In short, I am very consistent at hitting off
>toe, and all adjustments I've tried have not helped.
>Any suggestions on how to correct this.

>thanks,



 
 
 

mis-hitting, off toe consistently, help

Post by Noel.Kerns » Wed, 03 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Have you tried addressing the ball on the heel of the club rather than
centered (on the "sweet spot")?  That's something a number of players do
(Fuzzy Zoeller, most notably) to correct for that problem.

Noel Kerns

Quote:

> I have a new set of clubs that I consistently
> hit anywhere from 1/2 inch to an inch off
> center, towards the toe.  (I expect this
> is a long-standing problem, and not necessarily
> a result of new clubs -- they just showed it
> up clearly.)

> All attempts so far to stand closer, farther
> away, etc., suggest that I am apparently making
> subtle adjustments in my swing to compensate,
> resulting in hitting 1/2 to an inch off center,
> towards the toe, regardless.

> In short, I am very consistent at hitting off
> toe, and all adjustments I've tried have not helped.
> Any suggestions on how to correct this.

> thanks,



 
 
 

mis-hitting, off toe consistently, help

Post by Richard Wildm » Wed, 03 Dec 1997 04:00:00

: Have you tried addressing the ball on the heel of the club rather than
: centered (on the "sweet spot")?  That's something a number of players do
: (Fuzzy Zoeller, most notably) to correct for that problem.

: Noel Kerns

First thing I tried -- very surprised when it dawned on me that
it had no effect.  This, with other things I've tried, led me to
conclude that I am making unconcious adjustments as I come into
the ball.  If it was just mechanics, I'm guessing I could have
made proper adjustments.  That it does not seem to be just
that leaves me in the dark about what to do.

thanks for the reply.

Richard Wildman

 
 
 

mis-hitting, off toe consistently, help

Post by Jeff Jackso » Wed, 03 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> I have a new set of clubs that I consistently
> hit anywhere from 1/2 inch to an inch off
> center, towards the toe.  (I expect this
> is a long-standing problem, and not necessarily
> a result of new clubs -- they just showed it
> up clearly.)

> All attempts so far to stand closer, farther
> away, etc., suggest that I am apparently making
> subtle adjustments in my swing to compensate,
> resulting in hitting 1/2 to an inch off center,
> towards the toe, regardless.

> In short, I am very consistent at hitting off
> toe, and all adjustments I've tried have not helped.
> Any suggestions on how to correct this.

> thanks,


Dear Richard,

Assuming the patteren is not caused by an outide-in swing, your clubs
may need to be made more upright.  Find a clubmaker or pro who has a lie
board and impact labels.  he or she will test to se what lie has you hit
the ball consistently in the center of the face.  This is the best way
to determine why your shots are consistnetly hit on the ote.

Sincerely,

jeff Jackson
Dynacraft Golf

 
 
 

mis-hitting, off toe consistently, help

Post by Voyeu » Thu, 04 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Richard,

You're probably coming over the top on the downswing--pulling your left
shoulder out of the shot. I'd suggest trying this next time you're at the
range:

You can never turn your shoulders too much on the backswing, and a good
shoulder turn usually corrects that up-and-out move. Work on getting your
left shoulder under your chin on the backswing; that should help a lot. You
should hit the ball more consistently, and with more punch. If that doesn't
work, imagine driving your left shoulder towards the TARGET on the
downswing.

Quote:

>I have a new set of clubs that I consistently
>hit anywhere from 1/2 inch to an inch off
>center, towards the toe.  (I expect this
>is a long-standing problem, and not necessarily
>a result of new clubs -- they just showed it
>up clearly.)

>All attempts so far to stand closer, farther
>away, etc., suggest that I am apparently making
>subtle adjustments in my swing to compensate,
>resulting in hitting 1/2 to an inch off center,
>towards the toe, regardless.

>In short, I am very consistent at hitting off
>toe, and all adjustments I've tried have not helped.
>Any suggestions on how to correct this.

>thanks,


 
 
 

mis-hitting, off toe consistently, help

Post by Josh Donelso » Fri, 05 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Richard,

> You're probably coming over the top on the downswing--pulling your left
> shoulder out of the shot. I'd suggest trying this next time you're at the
> range:

> You can never turn your shoulders too much on the backswing,

This statement is like sitting on top of a stack of dynamite to which
someone ELSE controls the blasting caps. It could go off at any time. I
am living proof that you can turn your shoulders too far on the
backswing. About two years ago, I had a weak fade, cause I was just back
from another season of high school baseball. My buddy helped me by
flattening out my plane and getting that left shoulder at the ball when
I was fully back. It worked great, pulling my draw right back to where
it needed to be. But as I got looser and looser, and more used to the
swing, my backswing got longer, and longer, and that shoulder kept
creeping farther back. Eventually, I got to where I had NO IDEA where
the ball was going - literally, I'd knock it stiff to the pin on one
hole, and stiff to the OB stake the next, right or left! I went to the
range, and found out why. I was turning TOO far on the backswing, and
the hands were becoming limp at the top. Then, I was dropping them
inside too much on the downswing to delay them long enough for my
shoudlers to get back to square. Thus, cause my shoulders were square,
if I got my hands in the right position, it was a good shot. But it was
extremely difficult to do, cause my hands were never in the same
position. I now have to concentrate on getting both the left knee AND
the left shoulder pointing RIGHT AT THE BALL when I'm fully loaded. This
keeps the club slightly less than parallel on top, and provides a much
more compact, powerful and repeateable swing (a la Tiger - watch his
club at top - for all the hype, his fundamentals work!), with more
consisten results. The first six-iron I struck after practicing this
swing key landed about six feet left of the pin and ended up two feet
past and six feet left. I made the eight foorter for birdie, too. So be
careful - it's a great tip, but don't carry it too far.

Peace.

Josh

[snip left shoulder towards target]

[snip hitting off toe problem]

 
 
 

mis-hitting, off toe consistently, help

Post by \ » Sun, 07 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> I have a new set of clubs that I consistently
> hit anywhere from 1/2 inch to an inch off
> center, towards the toe.

Sounds to me like you're "reaching" for the ball...

When you take your stance and bend at the hips, let your arms just hang
straight down.  That's where you take your grip.  Don't reach OUT for
the club, just let your arms hang.

Then, you can "measure" to the ball with more assurance that the club
will return to that spot at impact.

Randy