Flat left wrist and grip help

Flat left wrist and grip help

Post by John Yoshizaw » Sat, 22 Mar 2003 13:57:01


Since I hurt my back last week I've been trying not to swing so much, but
instead work on one or two positions.  One thing that is irking me is my
grip.  I use the setup drill from the SLAP CD.  This grip is slightly strong
as per the instructions.  my problem is that when I take the club to the top
the only way to get a square clubface is to cup the left wrist.  If I try to
make the wrist flat at the top of the swing the face is definately shut.

So my question is this.

Is it my grip?  Which I think it is.  Although when I try to weaken it and
look at my V's they are pointing to my chin and not my right ear/shoulder.
When I move the V's back I get the same closed face again

Is my backswing?

Thanks!

John

 
 
 

Flat left wrist and grip help

Post by jeff » Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:27:48


Quote:
> Since I hurt my back last week I've been trying not to swing so much, but
> instead work on one or two positions.  One thing that is irking me is my
> grip.  I use the setup drill from the SLAP CD.  This grip is slightly
strong
> as per the instructions.  my problem is that when I take the club to the
top
> the only way to get a square clubface is to cup the left wrist.  If I try
to
> make the wrist flat at the top of the swing the face is definately shut.

> So my question is this.

> Is it my grip?  Which I think it is.  Although when I try to weaken it and
> look at my V's they are pointing to my chin and not my right ear/shoulder.
> When I move the V's back I get the same closed face again

> Is my backswing?

Don't worry about it.  A strong grip and cupped left wrist at the top
naturally go together.  You shouldn't make any adjustment until you start
seeing ball flight anyway.

 
 
 

Flat left wrist and grip help

Post by bighorn_bi » Sun, 23 Mar 2003 03:20:04

Quote:

> Since I hurt my back last week I've been trying not to swing so much, but
> instead work on one or two positions.  One thing that is irking me is my
> grip.  I use the setup drill from the SLAP CD.  This grip is slightly strong
> as per the instructions.  my problem is that when I take the club to the top
> the only way to get a square clubface is to cup the left wrist.  If I try to
> make the wrist flat at the top of the swing the face is definately shut.

> So my question is this.

> Is it my grip?  Which I think it is.  Although when I try to weaken it and
> look at my V's they are pointing to my chin and not my right ear/shoulder.
> When I move the V's back I get the same closed face again

> Is my backswing?

> Thanks!

> John

You can try this:
Take a grip with your left hand so that you can see only 2 knuckles
of your left hand at address.  Take a stronger grip with your right
hand.  On the backswing, have the feeling that the left hand is rolling
slightly under the right, rather than rolling over, and that the right
hand is bending back on itself. If you do this right, the right elbow
will want to stay close to your body automatically on the backswing,
and you will reach the top in the classic waiter holding the tray
position, with the left wrist flat, the right wrist bent, the right
elbow almost under the hands, and the clubface square (at ~45* angle
to the ground when the clubshaft is parallel).

Now, there is no law that says all golfers must play this way,
but it does have some advantages, and is worth a try.  Check out
the recently posted picture of Phil Mickelson at the top of
his backswing if you are having trouble visualizing what I
am saying.

 
 
 

Flat left wrist and grip help

Post by Tony » Mon, 24 Mar 2003 07:33:15

where is that picture of phil

Tony


Quote:
> > Since I hurt my back last week I've been trying not to swing so much,
but
> > instead work on one or two positions.  One thing that is irking me is my
> > grip.  I use the setup drill from the SLAP CD.  This grip is slightly
strong
> > as per the instructions.  my problem is that when I take the club to the
top
> > the only way to get a square clubface is to cup the left wrist.  If I
try to
> > make the wrist flat at the top of the swing the face is definately shut.

> > So my question is this.

> > Is it my grip?  Which I think it is.  Although when I try to weaken it
and
> > look at my V's they are pointing to my chin and not my right
ear/shoulder.
> > When I move the V's back I get the same closed face again

> > Is my backswing?

> > Thanks!

> > John
> You can try this:
> Take a grip with your left hand so that you can see only 2 knuckles
> of your left hand at address.  Take a stronger grip with your right
> hand.  On the backswing, have the feeling that the left hand is rolling
> slightly under the right, rather than rolling over, and that the right
> hand is bending back on itself. If you do this right, the right elbow
> will want to stay close to your body automatically on the backswing,
> and you will reach the top in the classic waiter holding the tray
> position, with the left wrist flat, the right wrist bent, the right
> elbow almost under the hands, and the clubface square (at ~45* angle
> to the ground when the clubshaft is parallel).

> Now, there is no law that says all golfers must play this way,
> but it does have some advantages, and is worth a try.  Check out
> the recently posted picture of Phil Mickelson at the top of
> his backswing if you are having trouble visualizing what I
> am saying.

 
 
 

Flat left wrist and grip help

Post by Tony » Mon, 24 Mar 2003 07:34:37

Also are the hands not supposed to be parallel?

Tony


Quote:
> > Since I hurt my back last week I've been trying not to swing so much,
but
> > instead work on one or two positions.  One thing that is irking me is my
> > grip.  I use the setup drill from the SLAP CD.  This grip is slightly
strong
> > as per the instructions.  my problem is that when I take the club to the
top
> > the only way to get a square clubface is to cup the left wrist.  If I
try to
> > make the wrist flat at the top of the swing the face is definately shut.

> > So my question is this.

> > Is it my grip?  Which I think it is.  Although when I try to weaken it
and
> > look at my V's they are pointing to my chin and not my right
ear/shoulder.
> > When I move the V's back I get the same closed face again

> > Is my backswing?

> > Thanks!

> > John
> You can try this:
> Take a grip with your left hand so that you can see only 2 knuckles
> of your left hand at address.  Take a stronger grip with your right
> hand.  On the backswing, have the feeling that the left hand is rolling
> slightly under the right, rather than rolling over, and that the right
> hand is bending back on itself. If you do this right, the right elbow
> will want to stay close to your body automatically on the backswing,
> and you will reach the top in the classic waiter holding the tray
> position, with the left wrist flat, the right wrist bent, the right
> elbow almost under the hands, and the clubface square (at ~45* angle
> to the ground when the clubshaft is parallel).

> Now, there is no law that says all golfers must play this way,
> but it does have some advantages, and is worth a try.  Check out
> the recently posted picture of Phil Mickelson at the top of
> his backswing if you are having trouble visualizing what I
> am saying.

 
 
 

Flat left wrist and grip help

Post by bighorn_bi » Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:53:57

Quote:

> where is that picture of phil

Use google to search the rec.sport.golf newsgroup.
Go look in the "Back to Basics" thread for a post by sparky on Mar 12.

here, I'll try typing it in:

http://www.phil-mickelson.com/x183.xml

Re: hands parallel: I guess I wasn't too clear about that.
Yes, they are.  Many people with strong left hand grips
take a weaker right hand grip, otherwise they would hook
everything.  That's why I was saying weaker left and stronger
right. But, you're right, it works out to be the classical
"neutral" grip with palms parallel.

Like I said, it's not for everyone but it's got some advantages
IF you keep your left wrist flat.  Anyway, that's one of the
things my pro has me working on, and it seems to help.  The
clubshaft is supported better at the top because the wrist
is more restricted in how much it will bend.  It is limited
to bending radially rather than back on itself.  And the right
hand and arm are under the club more, bringing the right
elbow naturally closer to the side, rather than flying out.

Quote:

> Tony




> > > Since I hurt my back last week I've been trying not to swing so much,
>  but
> > > instead work on one or two positions.  One thing that is irking me is my
> > > grip.  I use the setup drill from the SLAP CD.  This grip is slightly
>  strong
> > > as per the instructions.  my problem is that when I take the club to the
>  top
> > > the only way to get a square clubface is to cup the left wrist.  If I
>  try to
> > > make the wrist flat at the top of the swing the face is definately shut.

> > > So my question is this.

> > > Is it my grip?  Which I think it is.  Although when I try to weaken it
>  and
> > > look at my V's they are pointing to my chin and not my right
>  ear/shoulder.
> > > When I move the V's back I get the same closed face again

> > > Is my backswing?

> > > Thanks!

> > > John
> > You can try this:
> > Take a grip with your left hand so that you can see only 2 knuckles
> > of your left hand at address.  Take a stronger grip with your right
> > hand.  On the backswing, have the feeling that the left hand is rolling
> > slightly under the right, rather than rolling over, and that the right
> > hand is bending back on itself. If you do this right, the right elbow
> > will want to stay close to your body automatically on the backswing,
> > and you will reach the top in the classic waiter holding the tray
> > position, with the left wrist flat, the right wrist bent, the right
> > elbow almost under the hands, and the clubface square (at ~45* angle
> > to the ground when the clubshaft is parallel).

> > Now, there is no law that says all golfers must play this way,
> > but it does have some advantages, and is worth a try.  Check out
> > the recently posted picture of Phil Mickelson at the top of
> > his backswing if you are having trouble visualizing what I
> > am saying.

 
 
 

Flat left wrist and grip help

Post by Howard Braze » Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:43:29


Quote:
> here, I'll try typing it in:

> http://www.phil-mickelson.com/x183.xml

> Re: hands parallel: I guess I wasn't too clear about that.
> Yes, they are.  Many people with strong left hand grips
> take a weaker right hand grip, otherwise they would hook
> everything.  That's why I was saying weaker left and stronger
> right. But, you're right, it works out to be the classical
> "neutral" grip with palms parallel.

Huh?   What is your definition of "parallel"?
 
 
 

Flat left wrist and grip help

Post by bighorn_bi » Wed, 26 Mar 2003 04:21:38

Quote:


> > here, I'll try typing it in:

> > http://www.phil-mickelson.com/x183.xml

> > Re: hands parallel: I guess I wasn't too clear about that.
> > Yes, they are.  Many people with strong left hand grips
> > take a weaker right hand grip, otherwise they would hook
> > everything.  That's why I was saying weaker left and stronger
> > right. But, you're right, it works out to be the classical
> > "neutral" grip with palms parallel.

> Huh?   What is your definition of "parallel"?

I'm not saying you have to grip, or swing that way, but
if you do, you may find it easier to get into that position
at the top with a flat left wrist (RH player).