how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by Harry Ki » Tue, 27 Aug 1996 04:00:00


people talk about swinging a club faster but not harder.  when
i try to, i feel like i'm swinging harder (essentially
muscling the club) and not faster.

any suggestions?

 
 
 

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by Warren Montgome » Tue, 27 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>people talk about swinging a club faster but not harder.  when
>i try to, i feel like i'm swinging harder (essentially
>muscling the club) and not faster.

>any suggestions?

First of all, don't think of it as swinging harder or faster, or
you are likely to just try to muscle it.  The real key is timing,
making all the muscles move in the right sequence to accelerate
the clubhead smoothly through impact.  There are many routes to
success here, and a good pro who can watch you swing can probably
help a lot more than a net based consultation.  Some things to
consider, though, are:

Observe the better players who have a similar build/physical
condition to you.  Sometimes you can pick up a lot.  One of the
best things that happened to me was playing with some good players
2-3 years ago and observing that several swung like the shaft and
even their arms were *** hoses attaching the clubhead to their
shoulders, and that their shoulder turn and centripital
accelleration propelled the club in a smooth arc.  This made for a
natural smooth, fluid swing, and very unlike what I had been taught
by my father (hit hard with your arms and hands).  Of course my
father was a man of average height with severe joint problems that
limited his flexibility, and I'm 4 inches taller with arms and legs
that are close to forcing me into the "Big and Tall" department.
The more fluid, less hands and arms focussed swing does indeed work
better for me.  Of course your milage may vary.  Many good players
also hit hard with a shorter swing.

Increase your flexibility and balance.  You can't make a smooth
easy swing if you either fall off balance or can't get your body
turned enough to get into position.

Get the feel of sweeping the club through the ball in a predictable
plane.  Again, the sight, feel, and sound should be like twirling a
heavy weight (the clubhead) on the end of a long string (the
shaft).  I found making repeated smooth swings back and forth from
the same stance, just focussing on winding up and unwinding without
swining hard enough to get off balance helped here.

Experiment with your backswing length and wrist***.  If I'm
swinging hard and nothing is going right it's usually because I'm
going back too far with the arms (and often not far enough in body
and shoulder turn), and letting my hands flop at the top, building
up tension that cause me to swing furiously at the top of the
backswing and wind up out of position (and actually slowing down)
by the time that the clubhead gets near the ball.  Going back less
far makes it harder for you to swing too soon.

Experiment with where you grip the club.  The more shaft you let
out (i.e. higher on the club you grip), the more resistance it puts
up and the slower it will rotate around, and vice versa.  ***
up or down can sometimes fix a tempo problem for me.

---

Warren Montgomery
Lucent Technologies, formerly AT&T's systems and technology business


 
 
 

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by Josh Ram » Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:00:00

: people talk about swinging a club faster but not harder.  when
: i try to, i feel like i'm swinging harder (essentially
: muscling the club) and not faster.
:
: any suggestions?
:

Hold your wrist*** a little longer. If you release too early, you're
past the little peak of speed you get. Try to hold your release a little
longer, it'll take timing to get it right, but it may just work.

Josh Ramos


 
 
 

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by Scot » Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> : people talk about swinging a club faster but not harder.  when
> : i try to, i feel like i'm swinging harder (essentially
> : muscling the club) and not faster.
> :
> : any suggestions?
> :

> Hold your wrist*** a little longer. If you release too early, you're
> past the little peak of speed you get. Try to hold your release a little
> longer, it'll take timing to get it right, but it may just work.

> Josh Ramos


By getting a full turn away from the ball on your backswing with your
hips and shoulders!!! This will cause a longer arc and therefore faster
clubhead speed. TIP: Take it back at a comfortable pace with hands,
shoulders, and hips all turning together and don't rush your downswing
when you get to the top of your backswing.
 
 
 

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by Pascal Jasmi » Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> : people talk about swinging a club faster but not harder.  when
> : i try to, i feel like i'm swinging harder (essentially
> : muscling the club) and not faster.
> :
> : any suggestions?
> :

> Hold your wrist*** a little longer. If you release too early, you're
> past the little peak of speed you get. Try to hold your release a little
> longer, it'll take timing to get it right, but it may just work.

> Josh Ramos


There are several ways of swinging faster.  Not all of which should be
used by all players.

In order of adoption,

Make a longer, higher follow through    (For everyone)
Make a wider hip turn                   (Almost everyone)
Take a higher backswing                 (Fairly few.  Don't exagerate)
Holding the angle longer (shaft perpendicular to left arm)      (Very few.  Its
hard to make a wristy swing consistent)
Make a wider shoulder turn.             (Very very few.  Low Handicaps only)

Swinging harder involves gripping harder, stretching more than you are
comfortable doing, starting the downswing hard.

 
 
 

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by Marcell » Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> people talk about swinging a club faster but not harder.  when
> i try to, i feel like i'm swinging harder (essentially
> muscling the club) and not faster.

> any suggestions?

I had the same feeling.
I can now swing FASTER by thinking PROGRESSIVE ACCELERATION. Trying to
accelerate too steeply from the top translates for me to a far too hard
swing.

Ciao.
Marcello.

 
 
 

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by Monte Bark » Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>people talk about swinging a club faster but not harder.  when
>i try to, i feel like i'm swinging harder (essentially
>muscling the club) and not faster.

>any suggestions?

The most useful thing to try here is to try nothing at all. Just swing
a club without a ball being there and with no particular swing
thoughts except to increase the sound of the swoosh at the bottom. I
would bet that you can naturally do this with little effort. The
reason this is so hard to acheive during your regular swing is that
you are too worried about individual swing thoughts to relax fully.
Try swing thoughts of only "Maximize Swoosh, and Solid Contact"

Good Luck
Monte

 
 
 

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by Guy Coop » Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


what
>>people talk about....

> The most useful thing to try here is to try nothing at all. Just swing
> a club without a ball being there and with no particular swing
> thoughts except to increase the sound of the swoosh at the bottom. I

        As a "born-again" *** of the golf club ('course with my
history "reincarnated" might be more apt) I too use the "swoosh,"
but turning the club around (gripping from the "head") gives me a
"better" idea of how to time a "louder" swoosh;  in the process,
it also gives me a better feel of swinging the clubhead and not
hitting.

        --Coops

 
 
 

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by Ian Davids » Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>: people talk about swinging a club faster but not harder.  when
>: i try to, i feel like i'm swinging harder (essentially
>: muscling the club) and not faster.
>:
>: any suggestions?
>:

>Hold your wrist*** a little longer. If you release too early, you're
>past the little peak of speed you get. Try to hold your release a little
>longer, it'll take timing to get it right, but it may just work.

>Josh Ramos


All the advice given here is very good. I remember
reading a golf article which essentially stated that
pro golfers swing the club faster where it counts the
most (at the bottom of the swing). Most golfers are
swinging fastest where it doesn't count (12-2 o'clock position).

Ian

 
 
 

how do i swing faster without swinging harder?

Post by David Lavil » Fri, 30 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>people talk about swinging a club faster but not harder.  when
>i try to, i feel like i'm swinging harder (essentially
>muscling the club) and not faster.

>any suggestions?

What you're trying to accomplish is a very simple procedure.  From the
top of your backswing drop your hands straight down at the ball, this
is known as a straight line delivery path.  By allowing the hands to
drop straight down you maintain the wrist***, sometimes increasing
it, and avoid any tendency to cast the club from the top.

When your hands reach the bottom of their path they start to arc
slightly into the hitting zone.  This causes the clubhead to move in a
larger arc requiring greater speed to catch up, otherwise known as the
release.  What I have just described is virtually the late release.

Most golfers try to get more clubhead speed by swinging harder as you
described.  This is generally caused by casting from the top with a
deliberate hand and wrist motion.  Problem is they lose  speed from
the start as soon as the wrist uncock.

David