Biggest Big Bertha vs Great Big Bertha

Biggest Big Bertha vs Great Big Bertha

Post by Kenneth L. Lope » Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:21:37


What are differences?  If you've owned both drivers/woods, I appreciate your
opinions on these two models as I am looking to buy one or the other...

Thanks,

Kenny

 
 
 

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Post by \ » Sun, 31 Dec 2000 11:44:45

GBB is 45 inches.  BBB is 46 inches.
GBB head is 270 cms.  BBB head is 300 cms.  (approx)

Both are surprisingly light and are excellent clubs.  You still see quite a
few of each one on all the tours, but there've always been more GBBs out
there than BBBs.

GBB, with its "shorter" shaft (remember when we thought 45 was LONG?) is
easier to control.  But BBB, with its larger head provides more "miss area."

My experience is that the BBB tends to hit the ball higher, even producing a
bit of a "baloon" effect, though YMMV.  Clearly that's a product of the
shaft as much as anything else.

My advice would be if you're a more upright ***, you might be okay with
the BBB.  But if your swing is flat (like mine), the longer club produces
too flat of an angle, making it a bit unwieldy.  I've had 'em both and
there's not a dime's worth of difference in how far I hit 'em, but I tend to
hit the GBB "well" proportionatly more often.

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Quote:
> What are differences?  If you've owned both drivers/woods, I appreciate
your
> opinions on these two models as I am looking to buy one or the other...

> Thanks,

> Kenny


 
 
 

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Post by rbstri.. » Sun, 31 Dec 2000 13:46:20

Having hit every Callaway driver from the older Bobby Jones models to
the ERCII and VFT Hawkeye, my favorites are:

GBB  (I currently use an 8.5 with an original strong-flex BBUL cut down
to 44.25" swingweight D3, and also have a 9.5 with a ProForce 65 X-flex
sitting in the closet)

Original Hawkeye Pro series

I never cared for the BBB...just a tad too big and seemed unwieldy.
Only owned and played one for a few weeks.

A properly shafted GBB will be among the best drivers money can buy.

Ron



Quote:
> What are differences?  If you've owned both drivers/woods, I
appreciate your
> opinions on these two models as I am looking to buy one or the
other...

> Thanks,

> Kenny

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Post by david s- » Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:39:58



Quote:
> What are differences?  If you've owned both drivers/woods, I appreciate your
> opinions on these two models as I am looking to buy one or the other...

I have both.....and I have experimented mercilessly with different shafts and
combinations over the years..I have only been able to optimise the BBB.......the
GBB is just too difficult, the 9 head with closed face is too much to control
with a 46' shaft..I now have to admit defeat, the BBB is now consigned to my
shelves...and the excellent (Tri-Gold Graphite) shaft has been recovered for
another project!

david

 
 
 

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Post by Russ » Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:56:38



Quote:
> What are differences?  If you've owned both drivers/woods, I appreciate
your
> opinions on these two models as I am looking to buy one or the other...

> Thanks,

> Kenny

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, as they say, but I prefer
the BBB, I can hit this off the fairway on long par 5's, but I couldn't get
the GBB into the air off the fairway.
I will agree that the BBB does tend to make the ball fly higher, but what is
wrong with that, it does propel the ball a fair way as well.
Russ
 
 
 

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Post by zig » Sun, 31 Dec 2000 23:00:18

Here's a link to a review site. Average people rate the clubs.

http://www.golfreview.net/reviews/drivers/

zig


Quote:



> > What are differences?  If you've owned both drivers/woods, I appreciate
> your
> > opinions on these two models as I am looking to buy one or the other...

> > Thanks,

> > Kenny

> Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, as they say, but I prefer
> the BBB, I can hit this off the fairway on long par 5's, but I couldn't
get
> the GBB into the air off the fairway.
> I will agree that the BBB does tend to make the ball fly higher, but what
is
> wrong with that, it does propel the ball a fair way as well.
> Russ

 
 
 

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Post by rbstri.. » Sun, 31 Dec 2000 23:40:02



"...the GBB is just too difficult, the 9 head with closed face is too
much to control with a 46' shaft..I now have to admit defeat"

David, I went through a selection of several 1/2 loft drivers before I
found an 8.5 that "looked" square, at least less closed.  When I
measured it, it did in fact measure virtually square (a 1/4 degree or
less?).  With the strong flex shaft and almost an inch lopped off the
total length of the driver, it has become a very trusty driver, and
excellent distance as well (I think I may have hit my run of 975's a
tad farther, but certainly not straighter).

I just wonder if anyone else has had any luck finding these seemingly
rare square-faced Callaways?  I had always heard for years that the
lower lofted, 1/2 degree models were more essentially square, and that
the higher lofted, even degree models were designed as closed.  Can
anyone confirm this?

Ron

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Post by Rob Hamilto » Mon, 01 Jan 2001 02:58:34

Quote:

> Having hit every Callaway driver from the older Bobby Jones models to
> the ERCII and VFT Hawkeye, my favorites are:

> GBB  (I currently use an 8.5 with an original strong-flex BBUL cut down
> to 44.25" swingweight D3, and also have a 9.5 with a ProForce 65 X-flex
> sitting in the closet)

I use an 8.5 deg. GBB with an R-flex pro force 65 swingweighted to D4.
It works very well for me. I tried an S-flex, but had a lot of trouble
with it, especially when I get a little too fast; I wouldn't want to
consider an X-flex!

Rob

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Post by ji » Mon, 01 Jan 2001 04:09:27

Kenny,
I own both, including the Ti models. Bought both of them brand new $$$.
FWIW I've also owned the Taylor Made supersteel, Bertha warbird driver,
Steelhead driver, Ping, and others.

The BBB head is very very large. Might have to buy extra long tees and regroove
swing a bit more to handle the size if you are used to more traditional sizes.
The GBB IMHO is better for all around workability. Again, in my experience
there seems to be a bit more tendency to balloon the ball with the BBB, given
the same loft on both.
Also depends on what you are using now, what you are used to, what your skill
level is, and what you want out of the driver, ie: lower flight, more boring
flight, workability, dependability, etc.
Hope this helps. Feel free to email me.
Aloha,
Jim


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Quote:

>What are differences?  If you've owned both drivers/woods, I appreciate your
>opinions on these two models as I am looking to buy one or the other...

>Thanks,

>Kenny

 
 
 

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Post by Colin Wilso » Mon, 01 Jan 2001 09:03:27

Quote:

> the GBB is just too difficult, the 9 head with closed face is too much to control
> with a 46' shaft..

David, I humbly suggest you've taken your experiments with longer clubs
a little too far. :-)

Cheers
Colin Wilson
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Post by david s- » Mon, 01 Jan 2001 10:27:16


 I have only been able to optimise the BBB.......the

Quote:
> GBB is just too difficult, the 9 head with closed face is too much to control
> with a 46' shaft..

...oooops!...wrong way round!

I optimised the GBB perfectly, and in the hands of a big hitter (not me) it is
magic!, but even I can hit this respectably.....it's the BBB that has given me
trouble and is consigned to the shelf for the time being!

david

 
 
 

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Post by \ » Mon, 01 Jan 2001 11:03:27


Quote:

> I just wonder if anyone else has had any luck
> finding these seemingly rare square-faced Callaways?
>  I had always heard for years that the lower lofted,
> 1/2 degree models were more essentially square, and that
> the higher lofted, even degree models were designed as closed.
> Can anyone confirm this?

This is true, though the difference in face angle is only slightly
different.

By the way, the half-degree models are also a little heavier.

The same is true on the Pro Series Hawkeye GBBs.  Plus, on the Pro Series
Hawkeye GBBs, the weight***is in the middle of the sole, rather than
near the heel, giving them less "draw bias."

Randy

 
 
 

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Post by rickva.. » Mon, 01 Jan 2001 12:01:48

The biggest big bertha is good for down wind shots.i alway hit the ball
real hi with it.
 
 
 

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Post by TWOODS » Mon, 01 Jan 2001 13:42:55

I own a 7 degree BBB with a pro series 5.2 shaft.  Definetly one of the longest
drivers I ever hit.  Face is square, the size of the head didn't bother me that
much, its still better looking than the ping.  My dad has a GBB 7.5 and I
balloon that, maybe its the shaft since he just has the standard firm flex.  I
switched to a titleist 975 with a ust proforce gold x-flex to hit the ball
lower, but for some reason I am doomed with a high ball flight.
 
 
 

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Post by seve.. » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 08:40:32



Quote:
> What are differences?  If you've owned both drivers/woods, I
appreciate your
> opinions on these two models as I am looking to buy one or the
other...

> Thanks,

> Kenny

> hey can you ppl still buy the Gbb driver coz im from ireland and they

are hard to come by. write up a current price for a Gbb driver please

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