60* Wedge Question

60* Wedge Question

Post by BRH » Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:39:14


A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
currently using.  The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap Wedge.
I now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I have a few
questions about how to go about it.

Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons?  That would
require another custom made club and probably would not be an exact
match because of my clubs now being 3 years old.  It also could end up
costing more than an "off the shelf" wedge.  (Note: my irons have
graphite shafts.  Most "off the shelf" 60 degree wedges that I've seen
have steel shafts).  My main purpose for the wedge will be for shots
50-60 yards and in, from anything like tight lies to heavy rough.  I
want to be able to basically hit a full shot from 50-60 yards with some
spin so it stops short. I currently use my gap wedge for these types of
shots. Trying to baby it with a half or 3/4 shot just isn't working well.

If there's really no reason to match it to my existing irons, what
make/model you would recommend, and why?  I'd prefer something with not
a lot of bounce.  My current handicap is about 20, and I'm hoping this
will improve my short game, which costs me the most strokes.

Thanks!

 
 
 

60* Wedge Question

Post by Billy Hutchiso » Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:54:19

If you learn how to hit a lob wedge out of a thin lie or hardpan, give
me a call and tell me how you do it. I still can't figure out how to do
that shot.

 
 
 

60* Wedge Question

Post by Howard Braze » Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:16:47


Quote:
> If you learn how to hit a lob wedge out of a thin lie or hardpan, give
> me a call and tell me how you do it. I still can't figure out how to do
> that shot.

It's easier to hit a lob wedge out of hardpan than it is to hit a sand wedge out
of hard pan.   Maybe you need a lob wedge with less bounce.    I don't play with
fluffy sand much, so I only want one wedge with much bounce.

Still, my pitching wedge has less bounce than either and gets my nod almost
always when I'm on such a surface.   Besides, that's the club that I do most of
my pitching practice with and thus gives me my most predictable results.

 
 
 

60* Wedge Question

Post by David Geesama » Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:41:20


Quote:
> If you learn how to hit a lob wedge out of a thin lie or hardpan, give
> me a call and tell me how you do it. I still can't figure out how to do
> that shot.

    Keep your hands ahead, and don't attempt to hit it high.  Trust the
extra spin to take care of the lower trajectory.

    Dave

 
 
 

60* Wedge Question

Post by David Geesama » Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:46:13

Quote:

>A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
>currently using.  The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap Wedge. I
>now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I have a few
>questions about how to go about it.

> Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons?  That would
> require another custom made club and probably would not be an exact match
> because of my clubs now being 3 years old.

    Generally, lob wedges are similar to GW and SW as far as length/lie are
concerned.  I wouldn't worry about matching the shaft exactly, since in
short wedges the shaft isn't critical and you won't feel the difference.  So
rely on what feels good to you.
    Cleveland has a good line of wedges, and there are many 60 models that
come in low bounce (mine is, as are nearly all of the ones I see stocked in
pro shops).
    Just don't expect this club to save you strokes easily - in most cases,
I can hit a 1/2 swing gap wedge more accurately than a 3/4 or full swing lob
wedge, and like you I don't feel either one is a strong shot for me.  So I
have both options, and really it's not an easy shot to make with any club.
It's just that with the lob wedge it will probably require more practice to
execute consistently.  My use of the lob wedge always improves when I go to
the local pitch-n-putt and carry my putter and LW only, where the holes are
35-70y long.

    Dave

 
 
 

60* Wedge Question

Post by Joe » Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:30:19

Quote:

> A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
> currently using.  The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap Wedge. I
> now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I have a few
> questions about how to go about it.

> Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons?  That would
> require another custom made club and probably would not be an exact
> match because of my clubs now being 3 years old.  It also could end up
> costing more than an "off the shelf" wedge.  (Note: my irons have
> graphite shafts.  Most "off the shelf" 60 degree wedges that I've seen
> have steel shafts).  My main purpose for the wedge will be for shots
> 50-60 yards and in, from anything like tight lies to heavy rough.  I
> want to be able to basically hit a full shot from 50-60 yards with some
> spin so it stops short. I currently use my gap wedge for these types of
> shots. Trying to baby it with a half or 3/4 shot just isn't working well.

> If there's really no reason to match it to my existing irons, what
> make/model you would recommend, and why?  I'd prefer something with not
> a lot of bounce.  My current handicap is about 20, and I'm hoping this
> will improve my short game, which costs me the most strokes.

> Thanks!

My LW is my personal "Go To" club inside of 50 yds.  It has two degrees
of bounce and and a steel shaft E2 swing weight.  This is very much
different than the rest of my sticks which are graphite weighted around
D2.  As some one else said, it is your personal feel that matters.

This is a very versatile club anywhere from a couple of feet off the
green to about 50 yards.  You need to spend time with it and learn to
trust it.  You need to stay aggressive with it and those shots that take
an easy touch need to be executed confidently.  As far as hardpan goes,
that is a tough shot.  It really needs a very low to zero bounce and
frankly if it is truly bare hard ground or clay, I would go to my PW
which has 0 bounce.

In my opinion the LW is like a putter in that it is a very personal club
in terms of feel and it takes practice to get the feel.

Joe

 
 
 

60* Wedge Question

Post by BRH » Sun, 01 May 2005 09:04:55

Quote:


>> A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
>> currently using.  The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap Wedge.
>> I now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I have a few
>> questions about how to go about it.

>> Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons?  That
>> would require another custom made club and probably would not be an
>> exact match because of my clubs now being 3 years old.  It also could
>> end up costing more than an "off the shelf" wedge.  (Note: my irons
>> have graphite shafts.  Most "off the shelf" 60 degree wedges that I've
>> seen have steel shafts).  My main purpose for the wedge will be for
>> shots 50-60 yards and in, from anything like tight lies to heavy
>> rough.  I want to be able to basically hit a full shot from 50-60
>> yards with some spin so it stops short. I currently use my gap wedge
>> for these types of shots. Trying to baby it with a half or 3/4 shot
>> just isn't working well.

>> If there's really no reason to match it to my existing irons, what
>> make/model you would recommend, and why?  I'd prefer something with
>> not a lot of bounce.  My current handicap is about 20, and I'm hoping
>> this will improve my short game, which costs me the most strokes.

>> Thanks!

> My LW is my personal "Go To" club inside of 50 yds.  It has two degrees
> of bounce and and a steel shaft E2 swing weight.  This is very much
> different than the rest of my sticks which are graphite weighted around
> D2.  As some one else said, it is your personal feel that matters.

> This is a very versatile club anywhere from a couple of feet off the
> green to about 50 yards.  You need to spend time with it and learn to
> trust it.  You need to stay aggressive with it and those shots that take
> an easy touch need to be executed confidently.  As far as hardpan goes,
> that is a tough shot.  It really needs a very low to zero bounce and
> frankly if it is truly bare hard ground or clay, I would go to my PW
> which has 0 bounce.

> In my opinion the LW is like a putter in that it is a very personal club
> in terms of feel and it takes practice to get the feel.

> Joe

Thanks for the feedback.  I picked up a Titlist Vokey Steel-milled 60*
wedge today, and will use it on-course for the first time tomorrow.

BTW -- I never said that I was intending to use it on hard-pan.  Tight
Lies - yes- but not hardpan.

 
 
 

60* Wedge Question

Post by Joe » Sun, 01 May 2005 11:25:58

Quote:



>>> A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
>>> currently using.  The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap
>>> Wedge. I now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I
>>> have a few questions about how to go about it.

>>> Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons?  That
>>> would require another custom made club and probably would not be an
>>> exact match because of my clubs now being 3 years old.  It also could
>>> end up costing more than an "off the shelf" wedge.  (Note: my irons
>>> have graphite shafts.  Most "off the shelf" 60 degree wedges that
>>> I've seen have steel shafts).  My main purpose for the wedge will be
>>> for shots 50-60 yards and in, from anything like tight lies to heavy
>>> rough.  I want to be able to basically hit a full shot from 50-60
>>> yards with some spin so it stops short. I currently use my gap wedge
>>> for these types of shots. Trying to baby it with a half or 3/4 shot
>>> just isn't working well.

>>> If there's really no reason to match it to my existing irons, what
>>> make/model you would recommend, and why?  I'd prefer something with
>>> not a lot of bounce.  My current handicap is about 20, and I'm hoping
>>> this will improve my short game, which costs me the most strokes.

>>> Thanks!

>> My LW is my personal "Go To" club inside of 50 yds.  It has two
>> degrees of bounce and and a steel shaft E2 swing weight.  This is very
>> much different than the rest of my sticks which are graphite weighted
>> around D2.  As some one else said, it is your personal feel that matters.

>> This is a very versatile club anywhere from a couple of feet off the
>> green to about 50 yards.  You need to spend time with it and learn to
>> trust it.  You need to stay aggressive with it and those shots that
>> take an easy touch need to be executed confidently.  As far as hardpan
>> goes, that is a tough shot.  It really needs a very low to zero bounce
>> and frankly if it is truly bare hard ground or clay, I would go to my
>> PW which has 0 bounce.

>> In my opinion the LW is like a putter in that it is a very personal
>> club in terms of feel and it takes practice to get the feel.

>> Joe

> Thanks for the feedback.  I picked up a Titlist Vokey Steel-milled 60*
> wedge today, and will use it on-course for the first time tomorrow.

> BTW -- I never said that I was intending to use it on hard-pan.  Tight
> Lies - yes- but not hardpan.

You are right, I picked up the hard pan thought from another reply.

I'm not sure that I would  just put it in the bag and use it on course
tomorrow.  Give it at least 20 minutes practise first :)  It takes a
little getting used to.

Joe

 
 
 

60* Wedge Question

Post by JE Wesc » Mon, 02 May 2005 00:59:17

My buddy who could "blade" a lob wedge with the best of us sprung for the
"F2" 60 degree.  Got bit by the hype and desperation.

BUT he now kills me inside 50 yards and out of close up bunkers - just sets
up straight or with very little open and flops it on the green, just like
the TV ads.  Says it took a bit of practice.

I have tried it and don't get the results in terms of distance control but
it does seem to deliver straight high shots...  Looks weird and seems to
need to be set up more forward than a usual wedge shot.  Anybody else want
to admit buying one?

--
Jerry
Jerry E. Wesch
Chicago